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Re: [Pharo-dev] Updating CI plugins

by Guillermo Polito

Christophe is also taking benefit of this to update jenkins from 2.32.3 LTS to 2.89.2 LTS On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Guillermo Polito < guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm updating CI plugins. *This will require a CI restart. *The > corresponding issue is here: > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20884/Update-CI-Plugins > > The installed versions are the following: > > Workspace Cleanup Plugin 0.34 0.33 > SCM API Plugin 2.2.6 2.2.1 > Pipeline Utility Steps 1.5.1 1.4.1 > Pipeline: API 2.24 2.20 > Pipeline: Build Step 2.6 2.5.1 > Pipeline: Declarative 1.2.5 1.1.9 > Pipeline: Declarative Extension Points API 1.2.5 1.1.9 > Pipeline: Groovy 2.41 2.40 > Pipeline: Model API 1.2.5 1.1.9 > Pipeline: Nodes and Processes 2.16 2.15 > Pipeline: Shared Groovy Libraries 2.9 2.8 > Pipeline: Stage Step 2.3 2.2 > Pipeline: Stage Tags Metadata 1.2.5 1.1.9 > Pipeline: Step API 2.14 2.12 > Rebuilder 1.27 1.25 > JUnit Plugin 1.23 1.21 > Git client plugin 2.7.0 2.5.0 > Git plugin 3.6.4 3.5.1 > GitHub API Plugin 1.90 1.86 > GitHub Branch Source Plugin 2.3.2 2.2.3 > GitHub plugin 1.28.1 1.28.0 > Copy Artifact Plugin 1.39 1.38.1 > Credentials Plugin 2.1.16 2.1.15 > Build Timeout 1.19 1.18 > Conditional BuildStep 1.3.6 1.3.5 > > I'll keep you updated as soon as the update is finished. > Guille > > > -- > > > > Guille Polito > > Research Engineer > > Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille > > CRIStAL - UMR 9189 > > French National Center for Scientific Research - *http://www.cnrs.fr > <http://www.cnrs.fr>* > > > *Web:* *http://guillep.github.io* <http://guillep.github.io> > > *Phone: *+33 06 52 70 66 13 <+33%206%2052%2070%2066%2013> > -- Guille Polito Research Engineer Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille CRIStAL - UMR 9189 French National Center for Scientific Research - *http://www.cnrs.fr <http://www.cnrs.fr>* *Web:* *http://guillep.github.io* <http://guillep.github.io> *Phone: *+33 06 52 70 66 13

Dec. 22, 2017

Updating CI plugins

by Guillermo Polito

Hi all, I'm updating CI plugins. *This will require a CI restart. *The corresponding issue is here: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20884/Update-CI-Plugins The installed versions are the following: Workspace Cleanup Plugin 0.34 0.33 SCM API Plugin 2.2.6 2.2.1 Pipeline Utility Steps 1.5.1 1.4.1 Pipeline: API 2.24 2.20 Pipeline: Build Step 2.6 2.5.1 Pipeline: Declarative 1.2.5 1.1.9 Pipeline: Declarative Extension Points API 1.2.5 1.1.9 Pipeline: Groovy 2.41 2.40 Pipeline: Model API 1.2.5 1.1.9 Pipeline: Nodes and Processes 2.16 2.15 Pipeline: Shared Groovy Libraries 2.9 2.8 Pipeline: Stage Step 2.3 2.2 Pipeline: Stage Tags Metadata 1.2.5 1.1.9 Pipeline: Step API 2.14 2.12 Rebuilder 1.27 1.25 JUnit Plugin 1.23 1.21 Git client plugin 2.7.0 2.5.0 Git plugin 3.6.4 3.5.1 GitHub API Plugin 1.90 1.86 GitHub Branch Source Plugin 2.3.2 2.2.3 GitHub plugin 1.28.1 1.28.0 Copy Artifact Plugin 1.39 1.38.1 Credentials Plugin 2.1.16 2.1.15 Build Timeout 1.19 1.18 Conditional BuildStep 1.3.6 1.3.5 I'll keep you updated as soon as the update is finished. Guille -- Guille Polito Research Engineer Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille CRIStAL - UMR 9189 French National Center for Scientific Research - *http://www.cnrs.fr <http://www.cnrs.fr>* *Web:* *http://guillep.github.io* <http://guillep.github.io> *Phone: *+33 06 52 70 66 13

Dec. 22, 2017

[ANN] Gemtalk Systems upgraded to Gold Membership

by Marcus Denker

The Pharo Consortium is very happy to announce that Gemtalk Systems has upgraded to Gold Member status. About - Gemtalk Systems: https://gemtalksystems.com - Pharo Consortium: http://consortium.pharo.org The goal of the Pharo Consortium is to allow companies and institutions to support the ongoing development and future of Pharo. Individuals can support Pharo via the Pharo Association: http://association.pharo.org

Dec. 22, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Linux vm packages

by Norbert Hartl

> Am 22.12.2017 um 08:03 schrieb Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com>: > > Let us make clear what I think! > > What I mean is that we are losing OUR/MY time maintaining information > for versions that we > cannot even run and the information is all the time obsolete. Because > let us face it > with the millions different configurations what is the probability > that it will be up to date? > Each time I have students, this information is obsolete or not working > on their specific > version. > There is no need to exaggerate if you have real point. We did this linux move (to opensuse) in order to make the situation better. With this it is easy to install the vm on linux. There is not much magic. The only point is that Holger wrote the initial description which was incomplete. I corrected the version and sent it to the mailing list but it didnât make it to the website for too long. Now there is one or two corrections not much. The installation instruction will change every time a new linux version comes out. > Don't you all think that Marcus could concentrate better on making a > pass on Opal > if he would not have to split his time into many small details? > That is exactly the same for everyone here!! > So if you want to help then perfect. I think that having a travis job > and extracting the information > from the job would be a lot better process. > > Like a test and a method comment. **EXECUTABLE** and **TESTED**. > Ok then you should describe how this process works and where we can use it. If this process does not exist Iâm not sure what you trying to tell... Norbert > Stef > > >> On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> I have done all the changes last week. >> >>> On 21 Dec 2017, at 21:17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Someone install and using Pharo on Linux should maintain this page. >>> I would simply remove it because this is just a pain to maintain a >>> description for system that we cannot even >>> use. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >>>> Can we change linux installation instructions on the web site? I can't >>>> believe they aren't there, yet. Here is the description. >>>> >>>> http://forum.world.st/Latest-Debian-Ubuntu-and-CentOS-packages-of-the-pharo… >>>> >>>> This describes what to do for some linux distributions not only ubuntu. In >>>> the mail there are opensuse URLs. The all contain the word "latest" which >>>> means the development version. If this is exchanged with "stable" you get >>>> the stable version. The rest stays the same. >>>> >>>> I really should have checked this. Because it is just stupid that people >>>> spend a lot of work into that and it is not used nor published. >>>> >>>> If I can help please say so!!!! >>>> >>>> Norbert >>>> >>> >> >>

Dec. 22, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Linux vm packages

by Stephane Ducasse

> I have done all the changes last week. And then it does not satisfy me because... read the other mail. > >> On 21 Dec 2017, at 21:17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Someone install and using Pharo on Linux should maintain this page. >> I would simply remove it because this is just a pain to maintain a >> description for system that we cannot even >> use. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >>> Can we change linux installation instructions on the web site? I can't >>> believe they aren't there, yet. Here is the description. >>> >>> http://forum.world.st/Latest-Debian-Ubuntu-and-CentOS-packages-of-the-pharo… >>> >>> This describes what to do for some linux distributions not only ubuntu. In >>> the mail there are opensuse URLs. The all contain the word "latest" which >>> means the development version. If this is exchanged with "stable" you get >>> the stable version. The rest stays the same. >>> >>> I really should have checked this. Because it is just stupid that people >>> spend a lot of work into that and it is not used nor published. >>> >>> If I can help please say so!!!! >>> >>> Norbert >>> >> > >

Dec. 22, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Linux vm packages

by Stephane Ducasse

Let us make clear what I think! What I mean is that we are losing OUR/MY time maintaining information for versions that we cannot even run and the information is all the time obsolete. Because let us face it with the millions different configurations what is the probability that it will be up to date? Each time I have students, this information is obsolete or not working on their specific version. Don't you all think that Marcus could concentrate better on making a pass on Opal if he would not have to split his time into many small details? So if you want to help then perfect. I think that having a travis job and extracting the information from the job would be a lot better process. Like a test and a method comment. **EXECUTABLE** and **TESTED**. Stef On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I have done all the changes last week. > >> On 21 Dec 2017, at 21:17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Someone install and using Pharo on Linux should maintain this page. >> I would simply remove it because this is just a pain to maintain a >> description for system that we cannot even >> use. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >>> Can we change linux installation instructions on the web site? I can't >>> believe they aren't there, yet. Here is the description. >>> >>> http://forum.world.st/Latest-Debian-Ubuntu-and-CentOS-packages-of-the-pharo… >>> >>> This describes what to do for some linux distributions not only ubuntu. In >>> the mail there are opensuse URLs. The all contain the word "latest" which >>> means the development version. If this is exchanged with "stable" you get >>> the stable version. The rest stays the same. >>> >>> I really should have checked this. Because it is just stupid that people >>> spend a lot of work into that and it is not used nor published. >>> >>> If I can help please say so!!!! >>> >>> Norbert >>> >> > >

Dec. 22, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Linux vm packages

by Marcus Denker

I have done all the changes last week. > On 21 Dec 2017, at 21:17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Someone install and using Pharo on Linux should maintain this page. > I would simply remove it because this is just a pain to maintain a > description for system that we cannot even > use. > > > > On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> Can we change linux installation instructions on the web site? I can't >> believe they aren't there, yet. Here is the description. >> >> http://forum.world.st/Latest-Debian-Ubuntu-and-CentOS-packages-of-the-pharo… >> >> This describes what to do for some linux distributions not only ubuntu. In >> the mail there are opensuse URLs. The all contain the word "latest" which >> means the development version. If this is exchanged with "stable" you get >> the stable version. The rest stays the same. >> >> I really should have checked this. Because it is just stupid that people >> spend a lot of work into that and it is not used nor published. >> >> If I can help please say so!!!! >> >> Norbert >> >

Dec. 22, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Linux vm packages

by Cyril Ferlicot D.

Le 21/12/2017 Ã 21:17, Stephane Ducasse a Ã©critÂ : > Someone install and using Pharo on Linux should maintain this page. > I would simply remove it because this is just a pain to maintain a > description for system that we cannot even > use. > > > This is one of the most important page of the website for those using linux but who are not pros. It saved me a lot of time when I installed my debian server and I lost time after installing a Fedora because the instructions were not there. And I was lucky to find a part of the infos on internet. Even if the infos are not always up to date or totally correct, it is still a huge help. -- Cyril Ferlicot https://ferlicot.fr http://www.synectique.eu 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

Dec. 21, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Linux vm packages

by Norbert Hartl

What do you mean with that? Sounds inadequate to me!! Norbert > Am 21.12.2017 um 21:17 schrieb Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com>: > > Someone install and using Pharo on Linux should maintain this page. > I would simply remove it because this is just a pain to maintain a > description for system that we cannot even > use. > > > >> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> Can we change linux installation instructions on the web site? I can't >> believe they aren't there, yet. Here is the description. >> >> http://forum.world.st/Latest-Debian-Ubuntu-and-CentOS-packages-of-the-pharo… >> >> This describes what to do for some linux distributions not only ubuntu. In >> the mail there are opensuse URLs. The all contain the word "latest" which >> means the development version. If this is exchanged with "stable" you get >> the stable version. The rest stays the same. >> >> I really should have checked this. Because it is just stupid that people >> spend a lot of work into that and it is not used nor published. >> >> If I can help please say so!!!! >> >> Norbert >>

Dec. 21, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Linux vm packages

by Stephane Ducasse

Someone install and using Pharo on Linux should maintain this page. I would simply remove it because this is just a pain to maintain a description for system that we cannot even use. On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > Can we change linux installation instructions on the web site? I can't > believe they aren't there, yet. Here is the description. > > http://forum.world.st/Latest-Debian-Ubuntu-and-CentOS-packages-of-the-pharo… > > This describes what to do for some linux distributions not only ubuntu. In > the mail there are opensuse URLs. The all contain the word "latest" which > means the development version. If this is exchanged with "stable" you get > the stable version. The rest stays the same. > > I really should have checked this. Because it is just stupid that people > spend a lot of work into that and it is not used nor published. > > If I can help please say so!!!! > > Norbert >

Dec. 21, 2017