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November 2017
- 846 messages
CRC checks of downloads fail really often
by Guillermo Polito
Hi,
In the travis jobs of many projects (pillar, ossubprocess), I see often
this failure:
image.eqoxhz/Pharo7.0-32bit-b648168.image bad CRC 298b4e64 (should be
85ee6276)
This is happening all the time for large builds, generally in 1 out of 4
jobs:
https://travis-ci.org/marianopeck/OSSubprocess/builds/299269491
https://travis-ci.org/pillar-markup/pillar/jobs/298538119
Of course restarting the job (to retry the download) solves the problem
eventually.
Is this because of the inria infrastructure working funny?
--
Guille Polito
Research Engineer
Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille
CRIStAL - UMR 9189
French National Center for Scientific Research - *http://www.cnrs.fr
<http://www.cnrs.fr>*
*Web:* *http://guillep.github.io* <http://guillep.github.io>
*Phone: *+33 06 52 70 66 13
Nov. 9, 2017
Re: [Pharo-dev] Is fileout on the change sorter working in Pharo 70?
by Guillermo Polito
Question: what is the behaviour you expected?
to have the fileouted .st file in your home? in your desktop?
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:29 PM, stephan <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote:
> On 08-11-17 22:03, Stephane Ducasse wrote:
>
>> File @ /Users/ducasse/Documents/Pharo/vms/70-x86/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS
>>
>
> Yes, this is looks like one of the problems I have with PharoLauncher
> directories. It is unclear to me what is kept with the vm and what with the
> image. I asked about it in users
>
> Stephan
>
>
>
--
Guille Polito
Research Engineer
Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille
CRIStAL - UMR 9189
French National Center for Scientific Research - *http://www.cnrs.fr
<http://www.cnrs.fr>*
*Web:* *http://guillep.github.io* <http://guillep.github.io>
*Phone: *+33 06 52 70 66 13
Nov. 9, 2017
Re: [Pharo-dev] [Debugger] Is "run to here" broken?
by Tudor Girba
Hi,
The basic tools, such as debugger, are expected to work. If something does not work, itâs a bug.
Cheers,
Doru
> On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:59 PM, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote:
>
> I think it's broken in Pharo 6 too, as I often find it unreliable.
>
> It's hard to know what should work anymore - we really need a stabilisation release to let the dust settle.
>
> I'm always a bit reticent to report things as I'm not sure what you expect to work.
>
> Tim
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 8 Nov 2017, at 20:40, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I have the following method and I have my cursor -MY CURSOR HERE-
>> I select the menu run to here and .... I exit the method.
>> :(
>>
>> Is run to here working in Pharo 70?
>> I start to get worry about the number of bugs I get when using Pharo70.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>>
>> fileOut
>> "File out the receiver, to a file whose name is a function of the
>> change-set name and a unique numeric tag."
>>
>> | nameToUse |
>> self halt.
>> self class promptForDefaultChangeSetDirectoryIfNecessary.
>> nameToUse := (self defaultChangeSetDirectory / self name , 'cs')
>> nextVersion basename.
>> UIManager default
>> showWaitCursorWhile:
>> [
>> | internalStream |
>> internalStream := (String new: 10000) writeStream.
>>
>> -MY CURSOR HERE-
>>
>> internalStream
>> header;
>> timeStamp.
>> self fileOutPreambleOn: internalStream.
>> self fileOutOn: internalStream.
>> self fileOutPostscriptOn: internalStream.
>> CodeExporter
>> writeSourceCodeFrom: internalStream
>> baseName: (nameToUse copyFrom: 1 to: nameToUse size - 3)
>> isSt: false ]
>>
>
>
--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com
"Value is always contextual."
Nov. 9, 2017
Re: [Pharo-dev] about SortFunctions
by Todd Blanchard
Which is weird because I think the magic is its decentralized nature.
> On Nov 6, 2017, at 1:52 PM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote:
>
> Some would say it was github that "made" git (popular).
Nov. 9, 2017
Re: [Pharo-dev] [IMPORTANT] Is there a bug in Tonel with category:
by Nicolas Cellier
2017-11-09 0:52 GMT+01:00 Martin McClure <martin(a)hand2mouse.com>:
> On 11/08/2017 01:15 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>
>> What is the opinion of the original Tonel designers ?
>>
>
> Well, Esteban did the largest part of the work, but I guess I am *one* of
> the original designers, in that various design proposals were floated back
> and forth, starting with one of mine and ending with Tonel.
>
> My intent is that Tonel, as a declarative cross-platform format, should
> use strings exclusively, never Symbols. I *think* I discussed this with
> Esteban during ESUG, and I *think* he agreed, so it seems likely that the
> current behavior with class definitions is unintentional.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Martin
>
>
> Ah you remind me there's one thing I don't like in this format:
Tonel must be aware of all possible syntax tricks in order to parse the
method body...
And that ain't easy
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20659/Tonel-parser-is-broken-by-literal-a…
I found that while accidentally reading the code due to
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20652/Iceberg-branch-compare-bug
Nov. 9, 2017
Re: [Pharo-dev] [IMPORTANT] Is there a bug in Tonel with category:
by Martin McClure
On 11/08/2017 01:15 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
> What is the opinion of the original Tonel designers ?
Well, Esteban did the largest part of the work, but I guess I am *one*
of the original designers, in that various design proposals were floated
back and forth, starting with one of mine and ending with Tonel.
My intent is that Tonel, as a declarative cross-platform format, should
use strings exclusively, never Symbols. I *think* I discussed this with
Esteban during ESUG, and I *think* he agreed, so it seems likely that
the current behavior with class definitions is unintentional.
Regards,
-Martin
Nov. 8, 2017
Re: [Pharo-dev] [Debugger] Is "run to here" broken?
by Tim Mackinnon
I think it's broken in Pharo 6 too, as I often find it unreliable.
It's hard to know what should work anymore - we really need a stabilisation release to let the dust settle.
I'm always a bit reticent to report things as I'm not sure what you expect to work.
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
> On 8 Nov 2017, at 20:40, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I have the following method and I have my cursor -MY CURSOR HERE-
> I select the menu run to here and .... I exit the method.
> :(
>
> Is run to here working in Pharo 70?
> I start to get worry about the number of bugs I get when using Pharo70.
>
> Stef
>
>
> fileOut
> "File out the receiver, to a file whose name is a function of the
> change-set name and a unique numeric tag."
>
> | nameToUse |
> self halt.
> self class promptForDefaultChangeSetDirectoryIfNecessary.
> nameToUse := (self defaultChangeSetDirectory / self name , 'cs')
> nextVersion basename.
> UIManager default
> showWaitCursorWhile:
> [
> | internalStream |
> internalStream := (String new: 10000) writeStream.
>
> -MY CURSOR HERE-
>
> internalStream
> header;
> timeStamp.
> self fileOutPreambleOn: internalStream.
> self fileOutOn: internalStream.
> self fileOutPostscriptOn: internalStream.
> CodeExporter
> writeSourceCodeFrom: internalStream
> baseName: (nameToUse copyFrom: 1 to: nameToUse size - 3)
> isSt: false ]
>
Nov. 8, 2017
Re: [Pharo-dev] ExternalAddress uniqueness (was Re: Call for help for stability and rewrite of FreeType)
by Nicolas Cellier
I don't know this part neither, just did what every other C developer would
do:
RTFM, fail to interpret TFM, RTFM again and think.
2017-11-08 22:56 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com>:
> Thanks for your deep dive on this Nicolas.
> I'm not familiar with that part of the system, and its interesting to read
> about the interface constraints.
>
> cheers -ben
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:40 PM, Nicolas Cellier <
> nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> 2017-11-08 16:10 GMT+01:00 Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmai
>> l.com>:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-11-08 15:35 GMT+01:00 Nicolas Cellier <
>>> nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2017-11-08 14:53 GMT+01:00 Nicolas Cellier <
>>>> nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-11-08 14:42 GMT+01:00 Nicolas Cellier <
>>>>> nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ben,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is my fresh crash.dmp
>>>>>> it sounds very related to your analysis!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In fact we are not freeing by ourselves, but telling libgit2 to do
>>>>>> it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Oh worse than that, it sounds like git implemented its own mechanism
>>>>> of counted pointers...
>>>>> So we don't tell anything, he guesses by himself.
>>>>> I would search for places where we #gcallocate: or manually #free a
>>>>> pointer on a structure passed back by git...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> and of course, it's not gcallocate: because this was a very old wheel...
>>>> It's rather somewhere in UFFI equivalent
>>>> FFIExternalResourceExecutor <- FFIExternalResourceManager <-
>>>> LGitExternalStructure autoRelease
>>>>
>>>> Among the senders, we see (tiens, tiens...):
>>>> LGitTree>>...
>>>>
>>>> So this is where I would search the origin of my own crash dump...
>>>>
>>>> But also (tiens, tiens...):
>>>> CairoFontFace>>initializeWithFreetypeFace:
>>>>
>>>> What if FreeType plugin was not the problem per se, but its usage in
>>>> cairo was?
>>>>
>>>> cairo_font_face_destroy ()
>>>> void cairo_font_face_destroy
>>>> (cairo_font_face_t *font_face);
>>>> Decreases the reference count on font_face by one. If the result is
>>>> zero, *then font_face and all associated resources are freed*. See
>>>> cairo_font_face_reference().
>>>> font_face :
>>>> a cairo_font_face_t
>>>>
>>>> Since we pass a pointer to the free type font at creation:
>>>>
>>>> fromFreetypeFace: aFace
>>>> | handle cairoFace |
>>>> handle := aFace handle pointerAt: 1.
>>>> cairoFace := self primFtFace: handle loadFlags: ( LoadNoHinting |
>>>> LoadTargetLCD | LoadNoAutohint | LoadNoBitmap).
>>>> ^ cairoFace initializeWithFreetypeFace: aFace
>>>>
>>>> Isn't it possible that we somehow double free the free type font too?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hmm not the exact catch but it could well be related
>>>
>>> https://www.cairographics.org/manual/cairo-FreeType-Fonts.html tells
>>> how to couple lifetime of the 2 data structures.
>>> I see that CairoFontFace retains a pointer on the FT_Face thru a
>>> dedicated ivar, so at least, we don't free the FT_Face twice, and we don't
>>> free it until we free the cairo_ft_face
>>>
>>> When finalizatoin occurs, I'm not sure that the finalization order is
>>> guaranteed but that does not matter.
>>> What matters is that the cairo_ft_face could still be referenced
>>> internally by cairo.
>>>
>>> So what can happen is that:
>>> 1) we don't reference anymore the CairoFontFace from within Smalltalk
>>> 2) finalization happens we call cairo_font_face_destroy ()
>>> 3) there is no more pointer on the FTFace from within Smalltalk (because
>>> we just reclaimed the CairoFontFace pointing on it)
>>> 4) finalization happens and we call FT_Done_Face()
>>>
>>> BUT: cairo was still using the cairo_font_face internally, (the
>>> reference count did not reach zero) and is now pointing on freed memory due
>>> to FT_Done_Face()...
>>>
>>> We should have tested the status before invoking FT_Done():
>>>
>>> status = cairo_font_face_set_user_data (font_face, &key,
>>> ft_face, (cairo_destroy_func_t) FT_Done_Face);
>>>
>>> That means that we would have to performa that status test in the
>>> finalization, and if not ready, keep a reference to both cairo_font_face
>>> handle ft_face handle
>>> But then there is no other mean than storing those reference in a safe
>>> place and regularly poll for readiness
>>> If my understanding is correct, this is absolutely garbage collector
>>> unfriendly!
>>>
>>>
>> No total misunderstanding from my side...
>> by setting the user data and destroy function, we are asking to
>> auto-release the ft_face
>> In which case, it's bad, because the ft_face is not ref-counted and we
>> might still have another pointer on it from within Smalltalk
>>
>> The only way is thus to poll thru:
>>
>> cairo_font_face_get_reference_count (*cairo_font_face_t <https://www.cairographics.org/manual/cairo-cairo-font-face-t.html#cairo-fon…> *font_face*);
>>
>> If the count is 1, we can safely proceed with finalization.
>> Else, there is still an internal reference somewhere in cairo and bang!
>>
>> I'd suggest to instrument the code with this function:
>>
>> CairoFontFace class>>countReferences: handle
>> "
>> unsigned int cairo_font_face_get_reference_count
>> (cairo_font_face_t *font_face);
>> "
>> <primitive: #primitiveNativeCall module: #NativeBoostPlugin error:
>> errorCode>
>> ^ self nbCall: #( unsigned int cairo_font_face_get_reference_count
>> (size_t handle))
>>
>>
>> CairoFontFace class>>reallyFinalizeResourceData: handle
>> "
>> void cairo_font_face_destroy
>> (cairo_font_face_t *font_face);
>> "
>> <primitive: #primitiveNativeCall module: #NativeBoostPlugin error:
>> errorCode>
>> ^ self nbCall: #( void cairo_font_face_destroy (size_t handle))
>>
>> CairoFontFace class>>finalizeResourceData: handle
>> (self countReferences: handle) = 1 ifFalse: [self halt: 'Houston,
>> we gonna have a pointer reference problem'].
>> ^self reallyFinalizeResourceData: handle
>>
>> If suspicion is confirmed, then we'll have to install the ref_count
>> polling mechanism...
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Stack backtrace:
>>>>>> [7791E43E] RtlInitializeGenericTable + 0x196 in ntdll.dll
>>>>>> [7791E0A3] RtlGetCompressionWorkSpaceSize + 0x7e in ntdll.dll
>>>>>> [751F98CD] free + 0x39 in msvcrt.dll
>>>>>> [6CD60D43] git_tree_cache_write + 0x2ac in libgit2.dll
>>>>>> [6CD62073] git_tree__free + 0x53 in libgit2.dll
>>>>>> [6CD1A563] git_object__free + 0x52 in libgit2.dll
>>>>>> [6CCD0D78] git_cached_obj_decref + 0x4c in libgit2.dll
>>>>>> [6CD1A7D9] git_object_free + 0x17 in libgit2.dll
>>>>>> [6CD1B0D3] git_tree_free + 0x11 in libgit2.dll
>>>>>> [6CD0BE4F] git_iterator_for_nothing + 0x8aa in libgit2.dll
>>>>>> [6CD0C053] git_iterator_for_nothing + 0xaae in libgit2.dll
>>>>>> [6CCEADEF] git_diff_file_content__clear + 0x31d in libgit2.dll
>>>>>> [6CCECC3F] git_diff__oid_for_entry + 0xc29 in libgit2.dll
>>>>>> [6CCED2B2] git_diff__oid_for_entry + 0x129c in libgit2.dll
>>>>>> [6CCED495] git_diff__from_iterators + 0x1db in libgit2.dll
>>>>>> [6CCED6DE] git_diff_tree_to_tree + 0x1e3 in libgit2.dll
>>>>>> [004DE7C8] ??? + 0xde7c8 in Pharo.exe
>>>>>> [0044FE08] ??? + 0x4fe08 in Pharo.exe
>>>>>> [004516A7] ??? + 0x516a7 in Pharo.exe
>>>>>> [00446051] ??? + 0x46051 in Pharo.exe
>>>>>> [0049936E] ??? + 0x9936e in Pharo.exe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Smalltalk stack dump:
>>>>>> 0xafa86c I LGitDiff>diff_tree_to_tree:repo:old_tree:new_tree:opts:
>>>>>> 0xe585410: a(n) LGitDiff
>>>>>> 0xafa8a4 M [] in LGitDiff>diffTree:toTree:options: 0xe585410: a(n)
>>>>>> LGitDiff
>>>>>> 0xafa8bc M LGitDiff(LGitExternalObject)>withReturnHandlerDo:
>>>>>> 0xe585410: a(n) LGitDiff
>>>>>> 0xafc678 I LGitDiff>diffTree:toTree:options: 0xe585410: a(n)
>>>>>> LGitDiff
>>>>>> 0xafc6a4 I LGitDiff>diffTree:toTree: 0xe585410: a(n) LGitDiff
>>>>>> 0xafc6d0 I LGitTree>diffTo: 0xe583e00: a(n) LGitTree
>>>>>> 0xafc6fc M [] in IceLibgitLocalRepository>changedFilesBetween:and:
>>>>>> 0x1055afc0: a(n) IceLibgitLocalRepository
>>>>>> 0xafc720 M [] in IceLibgitLocalRepository>withRepoDo: 0x1055afc0:
>>>>>> a(n) IceLibgitLocalRepository
>>>>>> 0xafc73c M [] in LGitGlobal class>runSequence: 0xfb96188: a(n)
>>>>>> LGitGlobal class
>>>>>> 0xafc760 M [] in LGitActionSequence(DynamicVariable)>value:during:
>>>>>> 0x102109f8: a(n) LGitActionSequence
>>>>>> 0xafc780 M BlockClosure>ensure: 0xe582890: a(n) BlockClosure
>>>>>> 0xafc7ac I LGitActionSequence(DynamicVariable)>value:during:
>>>>>> 0x102109f8: a(n) LGitActionSequence
>>>>>> 0xafc7cc M LGitActionSequence class(DynamicVariable
>>>>>> class)>value:during: 0xfbb81e0: a(n) LGitActionSequence class
>>>>>> 0xafc7f4 I LGitGlobal class>runSequence: 0xfb96188: a(n) LGitGlobal
>>>>>> class
>>>>>> 0xafc818 I IceLibgitLocalRepository>withRepoDo: 0x1055afc0: a(n)
>>>>>> IceLibgitLocalRepository
>>>>>> 0xafc840 I IceLibgitLocalRepository>changedFilesBetween:and:
>>>>>> 0x1055afc0: a(n) IceLibgitLocalRepository
>>>>>> 0xafc874 I IceCommitInfo>changedPackagesToCommitInfo: 0x113b80e0:
>>>>>> a(n) IceCommitInfo
>>>>>> 0xafc898 I IceCommitInfo>changedPackagesTo: 0x113b80e0: a(n)
>>>>>> IceCommitInfo
>>>>>> 0xafc8c0 I IceDiff>initialElements 0xe4c48f8: a(n) IceDiff
>>>>>> 0xaf9664 I IceDiff(IceAbstractDiff)>elements 0xe4c48f8: a(n)
>>>>>> IceDiff
>>>>>> 0xaf9684 I IceDiffChangeTreeBuilder>elements 0xe4b9c80: a(n)
>>>>>> IceDiffChangeTreeBuilder
>>>>>> 0xaf969c M [] in IceDiffChangeTreeBuilder>buildOn: 0xe4b9c80: a(n)
>>>>>> IceDiffChangeTreeBuilder
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dimitris:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I won't argument, I've learnt C in 1987, so it gave me enough time to
>>>>>> learn my own limits.
>>>>>> Working with pointers is like carrying a gun without engaging the
>>>>>> safety catch.
>>>>>> I came to think that shooting own foot was a feature ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-11-06 11:04 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Its the usual case of not being able to have your cake and eat it
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want top performance you have to manage memory yourself plus
>>>>>>> the abilitiy to access thousands of C libraries is not such a bad excuse
>>>>>>> for a compromise. The FFI is not a problem is a solution to many problems
>>>>>>> and people using it its not as if Smalltalk offers them any alternative
>>>>>>> choice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not to forget that Slang itself relies heavily on C, which is only
>>>>>>> the core of the VM and the very core of the implementation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Understanding how to work with pointers in C is pretty much
>>>>>>> understanding how to works with Objects in Smalltalk. Both are nuclear
>>>>>>> weapons that those two languages are build around. If ones does not
>>>>>>> understand their usage he will shoot his foot in the end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The important thing to remember is that C's goal is not the same as
>>>>>>> of Smalltalk. Its not there to hold your hand and make coding easy for you.
>>>>>>> C is there to offer low level access combined with top performance. It may
>>>>>>> have started as a general purpose language decades ago when coding in
>>>>>>> Assembly was still a pleasant experience. Nowdays C has completely replaced
>>>>>>> Assembly as the top performance language for low level coding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> C may appear as a problematic language to a Smalltalker but only
>>>>>>> because he sees it from the Smalltalk point of view. The harsh reality of
>>>>>>> the world is that as much as one may want to shoehorn it , not everything
>>>>>>> can be elegantly mapped to a object. Smalltalk may be OO to the bone , but
>>>>>>> the world we live in, cannot afford such simple structures to accomodate of
>>>>>>> varied immense complexity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the subject of pointers, the general rule of thumb is to keep
>>>>>>> things as simple as possible and avoide trying to do weird "magic" with
>>>>>>> them. There is a ton of things that C does under the hood to generate
>>>>>>> highly optimised machine code that can fry the brain , as the usual case
>>>>>>> with low level coding, so keeping it simple is the way to go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh and dont try to shoehorn the Live coding enviroment in debugging
>>>>>>> C code, as much as one may want to brag of Smalltalk's elegant debugger, C
>>>>>>> development tools are light years ahead in dealing with C problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> May advice to people is that if you do it via FFI first, you do it
>>>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do it always first with C with a powerful C IDE like Visual Studio,
>>>>>>> make sure your code works there and then use the UFFI. Will make life
>>>>>>> thousand times easier. I learned that the hard way when I was playing
>>>>>>> around with Pharo and shared memory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So yes having a FFI that does not help you avoid coding in C first,
>>>>>>> is a big plus, not a minus. Sometimes it makes sense to live outside the
>>>>>>> image, this is an excellent case to prove why that is a great idea. .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 11:10 AM Nicolas Cellier <
>>>>>>> nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Ben,
>>>>>>>> It's a super bad idea to copy an ExternalAddress.
>>>>>>>> It's common knowledge in C++ copy operator & copy constructors...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But it's not obvious to me that you'll have double freeing (unless
>>>>>>>> you explicitely free the pointer by yourself).
>>>>>>>> If you use gcallocate: then only the original is registered for
>>>>>>>> magical auto-deallocation at garbage collection...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What you will have is more somthing like dangling pointer: continue
>>>>>>>> to use pointer xa2->a1 when a1 was already freed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FFI is great, it introduces the problem of C in Smalltalk,
>>>>>>>> augmented with the problems of wrapping C in Smalltalk.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2017-11-06 4:23 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My current employment work hours and roster have severely
>>>>>>>>> curtailed the time I have hacking Pharo, so I've not dug enough to be sure
>>>>>>>>> of my observations a few months ago, and this is from memory, but I was
>>>>>>>>> starting to develop a suspicion about the uniqueness of ExternalAddress(s).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A while ago, in order to fix some stability issues on Windows, a
>>>>>>>>> guard was added somewhere that slowed down some operations. Looking into
>>>>>>>>> this and experimenting with removing the guard I seem to remember VM
>>>>>>>>> crashes due to a double-free() of an address, due to there being two
>>>>>>>>> ExternalAddresses holding the same external address.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My intuition is that that somewhere an ExternalAddress(a1)
>>>>>>>>> pointing at a particular external resource address "xa1" was being copied,
>>>>>>>>> so we end up with ExternalAddress(a2) also pointing at "xa1", with and
>>>>>>>>> object b1 holding a1 and object b2 holding a2. During finalization of b1,
>>>>>>>>> ExternalAddress a1 free()d xa1, and a1 was flagged to avoid
>>>>>>>>> double-free()ing. But that didn't help when b2 was finalized, since a2 had
>>>>>>>>> no indication that xa1 had been free()d.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is...
>>>>>>>>> b1-->a1-->xa1
>>>>>>>>> b2 := b1 copy.
>>>>>>>>> b2-->a2-->xa1
>>>>>>>>> b1 finalize a1 --> free(xa1)
>>>>>>>>> b2 finalize a2 --> free(xa1) --> General Protection Fault
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It was hard to follow this through and I didn't succeed in
>>>>>>>>> tracking down where such a copy might have been made, but the idea
>>>>>>>>> simmering in my mind since then is to propose that...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ExternalAddresses be unique in the image and behave like
>>>>>>>>> Symbols,
>>>>>>>>> such that trying to copy one returns the identical object.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The idea being that when b2 is finalized, a1 would notice that xa1
>>>>>>>>> had already been free()d and raise a Smalltalk exception rather than a
>>>>>>>>> general protection fault.
>>>>>>>>> b1-->a1-->xa1
>>>>>>>>> b2 := b1 copy.
>>>>>>>>> b2-->a1-->xa1
>>>>>>>>> ^^
>>>>>>>>> b1 finalize a1 --> free(xa1)
>>>>>>>>> b2 finalize a1 --> Smalltalk exception
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I write now in response to Stef since I vaguely remember it being
>>>>>>>>> Freetype related. But I also remember the issue being FFI related and
>>>>>>>>> Freetype is a plugin not FFI. So I'm not sure my memory is clear and
>>>>>>>>> perhaps I have the "wrong end of the stick" but anyway, rather than hold
>>>>>>>>> back longer because of that, perhaps this can stimulate some discussion and
>>>>>>>>> at least I learn something to clarify my understanding here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cheers -ben
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Stephane Ducasse <
>>>>>>>>> stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Hi all
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > I'm and I guess many of you are fedup about the instability that
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> > FreeType plugin produces.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > So we need help because clement and esteban are fully booked.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > We have three options:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > - drop Freetype alltogether
>>>>>>>>> > - rewrite the plugin
>>>>>>>>> > - create a binding using raffaillac sketch
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Now we need help. Who is willing to help us?
>>>>>>>>> > Should we try to set up a bounty?
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Stef
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Nov. 8, 2017
Re: [Pharo-dev] LayoutFrame bug
by Nicolas Cellier
I know it's not the recommended way...
But if experiencing difficulties with iceberg, you can just use MC to
produce the tonel output file, then use any git client to do the commit and
the pull request...
At worse, you can even modify the tonel file directly without MC (more
dangerous)
I'm often using sourcetree which is really one of the lowest barrier client
to git (both macosx and windows, not linux though).
Last time, I did it with git command line, then emmitted the PR from github
web API.
It's just 4 lines:
git branch blablabranch; git src add; git commit; git push --set-upstream
origin blablabranch
I managed to create the branch from iceberg with fogbugz entry # so it was
3 commands and less blabla for me :)
And the last alternative is to correct directly the file thru github web
API.
It's more boring to create a correct branch name and reference the bug
entry etc... but it may work.
2017-11-08 22:29 GMT+01:00 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com>:
> Hi nicolas
>
> Tx I fixed it before seeing your email. Too bad.
>
> I introduced this bug when I did the asLayoutFrame conversion.
> Note that I split the refactoring in parts to avoid too change commits.
> Now I was also thinking how I could automate the change and this is
> not that easy because the expressions
> can use temps, instance variables... and it would take me age to be
> able to write a rewrite expression (sadly enough).
>
>
> I found it in 3 min because I know the changes I did but your way is
> quite nice because it was not easy to find from the stack trace.
>
> I fixed it but I cannot commit the fix. Iceberg does not let me.
> Now I cannot produce a PR. :(
>
> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20656/Nautilus-comment-
> panel-got-broken-by-asLayoutFrame-cleans
>
> Guille told me that I could modify the printOn: method to help me.
> And this is a bit better (I did not bother to be smart with ; or not)
> I will use this trick to ease the refactoring and minimize errors
> (probably sleeping more should help too and doing less boring tasks
> too :).
>
>
> printOn: aStream
>
> aStream nextPutAll: ' (LayoutFrame identity '.
> self leftFraction = 0
> ifFalse: [ aStream << ('leftFraction: ', self leftFraction printString, '
> ') ].
> self topFraction = 0
> ifFalse: [ aStream << ('topFraction: ', self topFraction printString, ' ')
> ].
> self rightFraction = 1
> ifFalse: [ aStream << ('rightFraction: ', self rightFraction
> printString, ' ') ].
> self bottomFraction = 1
> ifFalse: [ aStream << ('bottomFraction: ', self bottomFraction
> printString,' ') ].
> self leftOffset = 0
> ifFalse: [ aStream << ('leftOffset: ', self leftOffset printString,' ') ].
> self topOffset = 0
> ifFalse: [ aStream << ('topOffset: ', self topOffset printString,' ') ].
> self rightOffset = 0
> ifFalse: [ aStream << ('rightOffset: ', self rightOffset printString,' ')
> ].
> self bottomOffset = 0
> ifFalse: [ aStream << ('bottomOffset: ', self bottomOffset printString,'
> ') ].
> aStream nextPutAll: ' ) '
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>
> wrote:
> > Yeah, I just got in trouble too by looking at class comments.
> >
> > Heroic debugging, Nicolas !
> >
> >> On 8 Nov 2017, at 13:47, Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@
> gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> don't you get nice red-cross when opening a browser and selecting
> comment?
> >> (Pharo7.0-32bit-b5ec533.image)
> >>
> >> The problem is LayoutFrame having a Point instead of Number in
> fraction/offset inst. var.
> >>
> >> So I defined two horrible hacks in order to be able to work with Pharo
> >>
> >> Point>>@ n ^x @ n
> >> Point>>asInteger ^x asInteger
> >>
> >> then could instrument the LayoutFrame inst. var. setters with horrible
> checks like:
> >> aNumber isNumber ifFalse: [ self halt].
> >>
> >> And after a few seconds of IDE usage:
> >>
> >> AbstractNautilusUI>>buildCodePanelWithCommentOnRight
> >> ...snip...
> >> sourceCodePanel
> >> addMorph: commentWidget
> >> fullFrame: (LayoutFrame identity leftFraction: 0.5@0 ;
> >> leftOffset: delta).
> >>
> >> Huh! it's as pleasant as not eating own dog food
> >> I think this comes from a recent refactoring. I can hardly use in
> image tools to trace it.
> >> Iceberg bugs, MC has lost ancestry and is just good at synchronizing
> disk working copy with image working copy, but there is github & git API:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/commit/
> 042baad47fddb63db2dd0beefeec692962f06dfe#diff-
> b8c1cff56276a5a583eec641253123da
> >>
> >> As it's nearly impossible to make giant refactorings like this without
> human error,
> >> and as it's as impossible to review pull request with many lines of
> code,
> >> I wonder if it is possible to automate those with rewrite rules...
> >>
> >> I let you finish the work (open issue, patch, commit, etc...)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Nov. 8, 2017
You can cheat in FFI as long as you don't get caught...
by Nicolas Cellier
I was trying to inquire about my latest vm crash in libgit2
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20655/vm-crash-in-libgit-git_tree_free-th…
when I found this bizarre prototype:
^ self
callUnchecked:
#(LGitReturnCodeEnum git_diff_tree_to_tree #(LGitDiff * diff ,
LGitRepository repo , LGitTree old_tree , LGitTree new_tree ,
LGitDiffOptions * opts))
options: #()
While the libgit2 signature differs in indirection levels:
https://libgit2.github.com/libgit2/#v0.19.0/group/diff/git_diff_tree_to_tree
int git_diff_tree_to_tree(git_diff_list **diff, git_repository *repo,
git_tree *old_tree, git_tree *new_tree, const git_diff_options *opts);
The fact that it does not differs for opts, made me think of a bug...
But no.
opts is allocated on external c heap with:
callUnchecked: #(LGitReturnCodeEnum git_diff_init_options(LGitDiffOptions *
self, LGitOptionsVersionsEnum version))
int git_diff_init_options(git_diff_options *opts, unsigned int version);
What you see this time is that signatures match...
So the LGitDiffOptions handle will be an ExternalAddress that will really
point on a git_diff_options
In other words, the handle is a git_diff_options *...
IOW, our LGitDiffOptions object points to an external it_diff_options so it
is what it promises to be.
For the other structures not so.
We are lying on the level of indirection, so our LGitTree handle are not
really a git_tree *. They are a git_tree **. (an ExternalAddress on a
pointer).
As long as we lie consistently, it's OK, because it avoids too much
packToArity: unpackToArity: dance.
That's the "beauty" of C pointers.
We can cast them to whatever or pretend they are handle_for_anything * in
the intermediate level, as long as original producer and final consumer
agree on what it really points to.
But from code quality perspective, it really stinks. Anyone like me opening
a page to get the exact signature of the function will be scratching head
and loose precious time. Especially when tracking vm crash down.
I'm not sure how well it's documented, I presume it's a well known
conscious hack from the original developpers, but such practice really
ought to be discussed here.
Nov. 8, 2017