September 2016 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] SystemLogger in Pharo 5

by Sean P. DeNigris

NorbertHartl wrote > Since 20 minutes there is :) Ha ha, thanks! ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/SystemLogger-in-Pharo-5-tp4914695p4914752.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 8, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] SystemLogger in Pharo 5

by Norbert Hartl

> Am 08.09.2016 um 14:24 schrieb Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>: > > NorbertHartl wrote >> I started today to build my first project using Beacon instead of >> SystemLogger > > That's what I ended up doing as well and it fit my needs nicely. I just > loaded the #development version as there is no #stable declared for Pharo > 5.0. > > Since 20 minutes there is :) Remember to load ConfigurationOfBeacon and not ConfigurationOfBeaconCore. If you loaded the stable before please note that quite some things have changed. Norbert

Sept. 8, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] SystemLogger in Pharo 5

by Sean P. DeNigris

NorbertHartl wrote > I started today to build my first project using Beacon instead of > SystemLogger That's what I ended up doing as well and it fit my needs nicely. I just loaded the #development version as there is no #stable declared for Pharo 5.0. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/SystemLogger-in-Pharo-5-tp4914695p4914747.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 8, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileDoesNotExist vs. FileDoesNotExistException

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 08 Sep 2016, at 09:03, Guille Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I'd argue also for consistency. When some exceptions are named "Exception" and others are not, my eyes hurt. +1 > > -------- Original Message -------- >> My very first thoughts are... >> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 3:35 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >>> Hi guys >>> >>> in >>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19026/Merge-FileDoesNotExist-and-FileDoes… >>> sven proposed to have >>> >>> FileDoesNotExist and remove the FileDoesNotExistException >> This seems quite reasonable. It would be very hard to confuse the >> semantics of FileDoesNotExist with something else. Also this is >> probably something end-user-devs will use more frequently in their >> application, so less verbose is better. >> >> The only thing that crosses my mind is perhaps discoverability... in >> Spotter searching on "File" the drilling into classes and searching on >> "Exception". Oh I just tried in Pharo 5 and it worked, there are >> four. The other way to handle that might be for Spotter to have a >> "KindOf" search. >> >> btw, in the Spotter preview pane when a class is selected, could the >> class comment be displayed? >> >>> Before doing it I would like to have your point of view on the names. For >>> now I'm neutral and indeed if we apply it to exception >>> >>> it seems to work for announcement. Now in Spec I was planning to put nearly >>> systematically Presenter at the end of Presenters :). >> Spec has more interrelated design pattern components. Its seems there >> has been some confusion around the nomenclature of these components. >> So the additional hint is probably beneficial. >> >> cheers -ben >> > >

Sept. 8, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] SystemLogger in Pharo 5

by Norbert Hartl

Yes, I use it quite a while but only with pharo4. As we are settling the SystemLogger/Beacon case I started today to build my first project using Beacon instead of SystemLogger. The logger side of Beacon is more or less the stuff from SystemLogger integrated there. With a few more iterations we come up with a stable logger side and then I'd consider SystemLogger deprecated. Norbert > Am 08.09.2016 um 09:37 schrieb stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > > Hi Sean > > It is stable since then. I do not have the time to look at it now. > > I know norbert is using it in production since years. > > > Stef > > > Le 8/9/16 Ã 03:56, Sean P. DeNigris a Ã©crit : >> The Catalog has it tagged Pharo5.0, but there is no stable version declared >> for > Pharo 3 >> >> >> >> ----- >> Cheers, >> Sean >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/SystemLogger-in-Pharo-5-tp4914695.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> > >

Sept. 8, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Small OS-... project addition

by Tudor Girba

Nice! Doru > On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > > Hi, > > now also the OSX project in the OS series [1] has support to > > - directly open a terminal > - directly open a file browser (Finder) on the working directory > > right from the Pharo tools menu. See attached screenshot. > > Depending on your platform just load > > - OSOSX > - OSWindows > - OSLinuxUbuntu > - OSLinuxCentOS > > from catalog. > > Bye > T. > > > [1] http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~OS<OSMenu.png> -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Things happen when they happen, not when you talk about them happening."

Sept. 8, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] SystemLogger in Pharo 5

by stepharo

Hi Sean It is stable since then. I do not have the time to look at it now. I know norbert is using it in production since years. Stef Le 8/9/16 Ã 03:56, Sean P. DeNigris a Ã©crit : > The Catalog has it tagged Pharo5.0, but there is no stable version declared > for > Pharo 3 > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/SystemLogger-in-Pharo-5-tp4914695.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Sept. 8, 2016

Ombu losing file on folder renaming

by stepharo

Hi Martin I often get Information Ombu: Couldn't write entry, since FileDoesNotExist: File @ /Users/ducasse/Workspace/FirstCircle/ActiveResearch/Pharo/PharoHarvestingFixes/60/current/pharo-local/ombu-sessions/Pharo_ajxqkxc.ombu And this happens when I save and close the image, renamed the folder and reopen the image. Stef

Sept. 8, 2016

Small OS-... project addition

by Torsten Bergmann

Hi, now also the OSX project in the OS series [1] has support to - directly open a terminal - directly open a file browser (Finder) on the working directory right from the Pharo tools menu. See attached screenshot. Depending on your platform just load - OSOSX - OSWindows - OSLinuxUbuntu - OSLinuxCentOS from catalog. Bye T. [1] http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~OS

Sept. 8, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileDoesNotExist vs. FileDoesNotExistException

by Guille Polito

I'd argue also for consistency. When some exceptions are named "Exception" and others are not, my eyes hurt. -------- Original Message -------- > My very first thoughts are... > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 3:35 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >> Hi guys >> >> in >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19026/Merge-FileDoesNotExist-and-FileDoes… >> sven proposed to have >> >> FileDoesNotExist and remove the FileDoesNotExistException > This seems quite reasonable. It would be very hard to confuse the > semantics of FileDoesNotExist with something else. Also this is > probably something end-user-devs will use more frequently in their > application, so less verbose is better. > > The only thing that crosses my mind is perhaps discoverability... in > Spotter searching on "File" the drilling into classes and searching on > "Exception". Oh I just tried in Pharo 5 and it worked, there are > four. The other way to handle that might be for Spotter to have a > "KindOf" search. > > btw, in the Spotter preview pane when a class is selected, could the > class comment be displayed? > >> Before doing it I would like to have your point of view on the names. For >> now I'm neutral and indeed if we apply it to exception >> >> it seems to work for announcement. Now in Spec I was planning to put nearly >> systematically Presenter at the end of Presenters :). > Spec has more interrelated design pattern components. Its seems there > has been some confusion around the nomenclature of these components. > So the additional hint is probably beneficial. > > cheers -ben >

Sept. 8, 2016