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Sept. 9, 2016

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 029f71: 60209

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Branch: refs/heads/6.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 029f71368a0922308dda859ff0fdb5fea76d2e60 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/029f71368a0922308dda859f… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2016-09-09 (Fri, 09 Sep 2016) Changed paths: M Collections-Streams.package/Generator.class/README.md M Kernel-Tests.package/ClassDescriptionTest.class/instance/tests/testClassDescriptionRespectsPolymorphismWithTraitDescription.st M Kernel-Tests.package/ClassTest.class/instance/testing/testClassRespectsPolymorphismWithTrait.st M NautilusRefactoring.package/NautilusRefactoring.class/instance/accessing/model_.st M NautilusRefactoring.package/NautilusRefactoring.class/instance/class/buildRenameRefactoringEngineFor_.st M NautilusRefactoring.package/NautilusRefactoring.class/instance/display/class_andInstVariable_.st M OpalCompiler-Core.package/extension/Symbol/instance/asMethodPreamble.st M 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Sept. 9, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] PharoJS ESUG 2016 Demo files

by Dimitris Chloupis

Talking about javascript , I have been taking a look at the new chat channel I created at Discord for Pharo, Discord has a node.js API for creating plugins, was wondering how well PharoJS works with Node.js and if I can use it for this scenario . On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:53 AM Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > The Pharo 4.0 image + related files used in the PharoJS ESUG 2016 demo are > now available for download at > https://pharojs.github.io/faq.html#demoEsug2016 > > Best, > Noury > >

Sept. 9, 2016

PharoJS ESUG 2016 Demo files

by Noury Bouraqadi

Hi, The Pharo 4.0 image + related files used in the PharoJS ESUG 2016 demo are now available for download at https://pharojs.github.io/faq.html#demoEsug2016 <https://pharojs.github.io/faq.html#demoEsug2016> Best, Noury

Sept. 9, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?

by Dimitris Chloupis

Discord has video conference as part of the plans https://mobile.twitter.com/discordapp/status/746540447586263040 The problem I see with having more than 10 people is latency. Just a 1 sec latency is enough to make people talk one on top of each other, in real life things are even worse when you consider how many people are on a slow connection or problematic connection. Frankly I think chat is better, Blender has a meeting once a week to synchronize effort with over 10 devs participating at the same time. Their meeting are public but instruct the people not to chat while the meeting takes place unless they are blender developers. This method has worked for them for almost 20 years now. On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 at 10:50, philippe.back(a)highoctane.be < philippe.back(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Not true. > > Terf experience would help in focusing the meeting and make it like a real > assembly. > > We could take a conference theater with podium etc to make it work. > > I can help facilitating. > > And we can make an intro video to explain to people how they could just > sit their avatar to listen, raise the issues and use the chat or share a > window. > And go to the lectern to expose something. > > We can also screenrecord it all for reference and post it back to youtube > as a private video. > > Phil > > Le 9 sept. 2016 09:25, "Norbert Hartl" <norbert(a)hartl.name> a Ã©crit : > > Well, on the one hand this would be super cool. On the other hand nobody > will listen to the meeting because everyone's playing with terf :) > > Norbert > > Am 09.09.2016 um 08:51 schrieb Ron Teitelbaum <ron(a)usmedrec.com>: > > > > Terf? www.3dicc.com > > > > Ron Teitelbaum > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of > Esteban Lorenzano > > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 2:47 AM > > To: Pharo Development List > > Subject: [Pharo-dev] [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video > conference service? > > > > Hi, > > > > In the board we decided that we need to have a better support for public > meetings (particularly for consortium meetings but also for others). > > So we wanted to explore other services that would allow is more than 10 > persons participating (this limit is annoying). > > Now, I know google hangouts was able to provide more than 10 connections > (paying), but now I do not find itâ¦ maybe I was mistaken? > > Do you have any other service we can try? > > > > Thanks, > > Esteban > > > > > > >

Sept. 9, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?

by philippe.back＠highoctane.be

Not true. Terf experience would help in focusing the meeting and make it like a real assembly. We could take a conference theater with podium etc to make it work. I can help facilitating. And we can make an intro video to explain to people how they could just sit their avatar to listen, raise the issues and use the chat or share a window. And go to the lectern to expose something. We can also screenrecord it all for reference and post it back to youtube as a private video. Phil Le 9 sept. 2016 09:25, "Norbert Hartl" <norbert(a)hartl.name> a Ã©crit : Well, on the one hand this would be super cool. On the other hand nobody will listen to the meeting because everyone's playing with terf :) Norbert > Am 09.09.2016 um 08:51 schrieb Ron Teitelbaum <ron(a)usmedrec.com>: > > Terf? www.3dicc.com > > Ron Teitelbaum > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Esteban Lorenzano > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 2:47 AM > To: Pharo Development List > Subject: [Pharo-dev] [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service? > > Hi, > > In the board we decided that we need to have a better support for public meetings (particularly for consortium meetings but also for others). > So we wanted to explore other services that would allow is more than 10 persons participating (this limit is annoying). > Now, I know google hangouts was able to provide more than 10 connections (paying), but now I do not find itâ¦ maybe I was mistaken? > Do you have any other service we can try? > > Thanks, > Esteban > >

Sept. 9, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?

by philippe.back＠highoctane.be

Why are we not using 3DICC Terf for these? Would work wonderfully. We can have a persistent area, sound and webcam support, slides, .... Ron, how would it work cost wise for the Pharo Consortium to handle meetings in your servers? Phil Le 9 sept. 2016 09:25, "Norbert Hartl" <norbert(a)hartl.name> a Ã©crit : > Well, on the one hand this would be super cool. On the other hand nobody > will listen to the meeting because everyone's playing with terf :) > > Norbert > > Am 09.09.2016 um 08:51 schrieb Ron Teitelbaum <ron(a)usmedrec.com>: > > > > Terf? www.3dicc.com > > > > Ron Teitelbaum > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of > Esteban Lorenzano > > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 2:47 AM > > To: Pharo Development List > > Subject: [Pharo-dev] [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video > conference service? > > > > Hi, > > > > In the board we decided that we need to have a better support for public > meetings (particularly for consortium meetings but also for others). > > So we wanted to explore other services that would allow is more than 10 > persons participating (this limit is annoying). > > Now, I know google hangouts was able to provide more than 10 connections > (paying), but now I do not find itâ¦ maybe I was mistaken? > > Do you have any other service we can try? > > > > Thanks, > > Esteban > > > > > > >

Sept. 9, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?

by Norbert Hartl

Well, on the one hand this would be super cool. On the other hand nobody will listen to the meeting because everyone's playing with terf :) Norbert > Am 09.09.2016 um 08:51 schrieb Ron Teitelbaum <ron(a)usmedrec.com>: > > Terf? www.3dicc.com > > Ron Teitelbaum > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Esteban Lorenzano > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 2:47 AM > To: Pharo Development List > Subject: [Pharo-dev] [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service? > > Hi, > > In the board we decided that we need to have a better support for public meetings (particularly for consortium meetings but also for others). > So we wanted to explore other services that would allow is more than 10 persons participating (this limit is annoying). > Now, I know google hangouts was able to provide more than 10 connections (paying), but now I do not find itâ¦ maybe I was mistaken? > Do you have any other service we can try? > > Thanks, > Esteban > >

Sept. 9, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?

by Esteban Lorenzano

I would like to test terf, yes :) > On 09 Sep 2016, at 08:51, Ron Teitelbaum <ron(a)usmedrec.com> wrote: > > Terf? www.3dicc.com > > Ron Teitelbaum > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Esteban Lorenzano > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 2:47 AM > To: Pharo Development List > Subject: [Pharo-dev] [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service? > > Hi, > > In the board we decided that we need to have a better support for public meetings (particularly for consortium meetings but also for others). > So we wanted to explore other services that would allow is more than 10 persons participating (this limit is annoying). > Now, I know google hangouts was able to provide more than 10 connections (paying), but now I do not find itâ¦ maybe I was mistaken? > Do you have any other service we can try? > > Thanks, > Esteban > >

Sept. 9, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?

by Esteban Lorenzano

yeah, we are willing to payâ¦ not immense amounts, but the consortium can pay for having better meetings ;) Esteban > On 09 Sep 2016, at 08:54, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > In the commercial world WebEx is quite prominent. No idea what they offer for free. > > https://www.webex.com/ <https://www.webex.com/> > > But then usually only three or four people say anything. Should be a while to reach the limit. :) > > Norbert > Am 09.09.2016 um 08:46 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: > >> Hi, >> >> In the board we decided that we need to have a better support for public meetings (particularly for consortium meetings but also for others). >> So we wanted to explore other services that would allow is more than 10 persons participating (this limit is annoying). >> Now, I know google hangouts was able to provide more than 10 connections (paying), but now I do not find itâ¦ maybe I was mistaken? >> Do you have any other service we can try? >> >> Thanks, >> Esteban

Sept. 9, 2016