August 2016 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] About Pharo 60

by Norbert Hartl

Hi, the things I want to have are 64bit, bootstrap and vector graphic backend because these are so disruptive that it takes some time to stabilize the whole system. But there is a roadmap for this which is ok for me. For me we really need to focus on stabilizing a few things which are (to me) very annoying: - cannot escape execution with cmd-. sometimes. - endless loop in Context with DNU for sending the same message again (https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16877/another-endless-debugger-loop <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16877/another-endless-debugger-loop>) - spotter opening is too slow. You open spotter and when you type too early it shows nothing and you need to close it - unifying keyboard shortcuts - tiny and misplaced buttons in GTDebugger - tree view in GTInspector. It is absolutely terrible that if you try to uncollapse a tree node on the right pane and you did not hit exactly the pane moves to the left. That is soooâ¦..!!!!!"!Â§$"%Â§%Â§% - Nautilus method caching. You can have code views that get not updated when the method changes and not even sometimes when you close and reopen the browser. - good integration of epicea. The old changes mechanism was just broken so I'm glad epicea is in place now The other big thing for me is that we need to do project dependencies right. I think the bootstrap guys know. The way we reference metacello projects from other projects quickly produces a situation that you load the maximum set in your image. We should have guidelines how to do configurations or any other mechanism so that not only the bootstrap can load cleanly but business project images as well. Let's call it dependency management my christmas list would be: - runtime adaptable behaviour. Be it runtime traits, talents, etcâ¦ - environments to separate graphs for certain dimensions like code version, etc. - magritte replacement with slots Norbert > Am 24.08.2016 um 06:59 schrieb stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > > Hi > > We have some ideas (because people are working on items) for the Pharo 6 roadmap > > and we will consolidate them soon and propose them to you. > > but I would like to know two kinds of points > > - what are the points you are working on and that would deserve more focus and help from the community? > > (these points are important because like that you could go faster and this is a good feeling to get done for example) > > - what would be points where (if magically we would get more resources - to not dream if this is not you > > there is a high chance that we will not make it) it would be nice to get some changes > > > Please pay attention that if you type too fast and come up with a christmas list well it will stay a christmas list and will just make the thread larger for nothing. > > Stef > >

Aug. 26, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to know the uncommitted changes?

by Guillermo Polito

Yes, do a synchronize on the repository. Le 26 aoÃ»t 2016 12:24, "Alexandre Bergel" <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> a Ã©crit : > Hi! > > It would be great that right-clicking on an uncommitted change that I have > an option to see the differences with the local repository. > > Is there a way to know this? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

Aug. 26, 2016

How to know the uncommitted changes?

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! It would be great that right-clicking on an uncommitted change that I have an option to see the differences with the local repository. Is there a way to know this? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 26, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] TaskIt v0.2

by Tudor Girba

Great news & great work! Doru > On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:53 AM, Guille Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > With Santi we wanted to share a new release of TaskIt, a concurrency management library for Pharo. TaskIt development is done entirely in github, using iceberg. Works like a charm. Please find below attached the changes log with more information. > > Cheers, > Guille & Santi > TaskIt > > https://github.com/sbragagnolo/taskit > > TaskIt is a library that ease Process usage in Pharo. It provides abstractions to execute and synchronize concurrent tasks, and several pre-built mechanisms that are useful for many application developers. This chapter explores starts by familiarizing the reader with TaskIt's abstractions, guided by examples and code snippets. At the end, we discuss TaskIt extension points and possible customizations. > > ChangesLog TaskIt v0.2 > > Major Features > > â¢ Task Runners > â¢ NewProcessTaskRunner > â¢ LocalProcessTaskRunner > â¢ Worker > â¢ WorkerPool > â¢ Futures with callbacks > â¢ Future combinators > â¢ Future synchronous access > â¢ Services > Infrastructure > > â¢ Travis CI https://travis-ci.org/sbragagnolo/taskit > â¢ Documentation https://github.com/sbragagnolo/taskit/blob/master/README.md > Minor changes log (from commits) > > â¢ Enhanced class comments > â¢ TKTWorker processes are terminated in case the worker is collected. See Issues #8 and #5 > â¢ Process Dashboard. - Adds TKTTaskItProcessProvider by default with the extension package - Hides job and task fields since there are not reachable any more. -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Obvious things are difficult to teach."

Aug. 26, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to install Iceberg?

by Tudor Girba

Yes, but it is still under development :) Doru > On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > But it could be on the catalog right? > :-) > > Alexandre > > >> On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >> >> You should search for it on GitHub :) >> >> Metacello new >> baseline: 'Iceberg'; >> repository: 'github://npasserini/iceberg'; >> load >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all! >>> >>> I would like to give a try to Iceberg. >>> >>> I have no idea where to find it however. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> <Screen Shot 2016-08-26 at 11.39.42 AM.png><Screen Shot 2016-08-26 at 11.40.01 AM.png> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> www.feenk.com >> >> "Reasonable is what we are accustomed with." >> >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen."

Aug. 26, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to install Iceberg?

by Alexandre Bergel

But it could be on the catalog right? :-) Alexandre > On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > You should search for it on GitHub :) > > Metacello new > baseline: 'Iceberg'; > repository: 'github://npasserini/iceberg'; > load > > Cheers, > Doru > > >> On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> >> Hi all! >> >> I would like to give a try to Iceberg. >> >> I have no idea where to find it however. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> <Screen Shot 2016-08-26 at 11.39.42 AM.png><Screen Shot 2016-08-26 at 11.40.01 AM.png> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "Reasonable is what we are accustomed with." > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 26, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to install Iceberg?

by Guillermo Polito

Yes! And check the readme for documentation! https://github.com/npasserini/iceberg Le 26 aoÃ»t 2016 11:47, "Tudor Girba" <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> a Ã©crit : > You should search for it on GitHub :) > > Metacello new > baseline: 'Iceberg'; > repository: 'github://npasserini/iceberg'; > load > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi all! > > > > I would like to give a try to Iceberg. > > > > I have no idea where to find it however. > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > <Screen Shot 2016-08-26 at 11.39.42 AM.png><Screen Shot 2016-08-26 at > 11.40.01 AM.png> > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "Reasonable is what we are accustomed with." > > >

Aug. 26, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] About better communication in the community

by stepharo

So true. :) >> On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 09:05:45 +0200 >> stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >> >>> Yes but we cannot do much >> OK. I got it...do you believe it makes sense for a noob to create account >> in case there are some low-hanging fruits to pick? > Definitely. And not necessarily that you *solve* an issues, but that > I found a benefit from "goal directed learning". > When I started using Pharo I learned a lot from: > * trying to reproduce issues - which also benefits core developers if > you can gather more complete symptom info > * testing other people's solutions - putting halts in the changed code > and simultaneously stepping through the original and solution code. > Actually I was surprised at far into the depths of the system this led > me sometimes and how accessible they were. Look for issue marked > "Fixed - review needed" > > cheers -ben > >

Aug. 26, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to install Iceberg?

by Tudor Girba

You should search for it on GitHub :) Metacello new baseline: 'Iceberg'; repository: 'github://npasserini/iceberg'; load Cheers, Doru > On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > Hi all! > > I would like to give a try to Iceberg. > > I have no idea where to find it however. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > <Screen Shot 2016-08-26 at 11.39.42 AM.png><Screen Shot 2016-08-26 at 11.40.01 AM.png> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Reasonable is what we are accustomed with."

Aug. 26, 2016

How to install Iceberg?

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi all! I would like to give a try to Iceberg. I have no idea where to find it however. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 26, 2016