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Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] Re: System and user processe

by Norbert Hartl

Am 21.06.2016 um 17:37 schrieb Chris Muller <asqueaker(a)gmail.com>: >>> Hmm... I would implement such an API rather via composition than >>> inheritance. Such a task does not necessarily have to run in the same image >>> but could also be accomplished on another machine. OSProcess has RemoteTask >>> for this. Inheritance would make things complicated once one would decide to >>> not carry out the computation as a Squeak process. > > It is implemented via composition, not inheritance. > > Maybe it is name, ClientProcess, that made you assume it is a subclass > of Process..? It is not. :) > >>> I do like Tony's idea of process groups. We could think this one step >>> further an add multiple tags (symbols?) to processes to support >>> fine-granular or cross-cutting classifications. >>> Tools like the process >>> browser could show these tags, group by them, etc. There could be tags to >>> identify processes that would stop working once you close the Squeak image >>> (e.g. "not resumable")... Hmmm... Application developers could use tags to >>> provide hints for other developers and users. > > Processes already have names, which could facilitate a hierarchical > naming if someone wanted, and list filtering in the Process browser > would make "grouping" or "finding" a Process pretty much free.. > > If all you want to do is tag and group processes, I would consider > putting them into named groups/containers rather than add more > process-level attributes.. > That is exactly what I was thinking Norbert

June 21, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] catalog will be down 1hr

by Ben Coman

Thanks Esteban. cheers -ben On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > ok, is up again :) > >> On 21 Jun 2016, at 14:11, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I will apply some updates to catalog (backend, they will not be visible) >> >> cheers, >> Esteban >> > >

June 21, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] bloc status update: june 2016

by Ben Coman

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > yes, and I always said this is plain bad. > how it is now it is not a contextual menu, I'm not clear how you mean this "how it is now", so I /think/ I'm agreeing when I say the World Menu is a context menu - the menu in the context of the World - which is why it should be on the right-mouse-button - the same as all our other context menus and those of the rest of the world. > is NextStep style and is the > correct behaviour (after we can discuss if we want to keep a menu as it is > now or not, but thatâs another discussion) :) > > Esteban > > On 21 Jun 2016, at 15:54, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> In Pharo the World menu is accessed through left-click and right-click >> provides the world contents. In Bloc, right-click displays the world menu >> and left-click does nothing. Is it expected / some design choice or just >> convenience for debugging ? At first glance I thought Bloc didn't work >> because I was left-clicking like in Pharo. > > > It was like that from the very begging of Bloc development. Main developers > of Bloc prefer right click to open menu (like almost everywhere except > Pharo). > > Cheers, > Alex > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> When (in Bloc) I go to World menu>>help>>Help browser>>Bloc>>Grid >>>>> Layout, I find the following license: >>>> >>>> >> Copyright (C) 2011 The Android Open Source Project >>>> >> >>>> >> Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License"); >>>> >> you may not use this file except in compliance with the License. >>>> >> You may obtain a copy of the License at >>>> >> >>>> >>>> Apache 2.0 is compatible/can be used with MIT - as far as I can tell >>>> according to answers on Internet. Maybe a lawyer can answer more correctly. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Alex These charts provide a nice overview... [1] http://i.stack.imgur.com/CZIoa.png [2] http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/floss-license-slide.html [3] http://choosealicense.com/licenses/ Comparing MIT and Apache, the latter... * protects against patents * protects against trademark misuse * disclaims warranty and liability * requires changes to be clearly identified (in source) * default license assignment to contributions I believe [1] is in error tagging Apache as "any change must be distributed in source form." It is only IF you distribute in source form that you need to retain all copyright, patent, trademark and attribution notices. cheers -ben >>>> >> http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 >>>> >> >>>> >> Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software >>>> >> distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS, >>>> >> WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or >>>> >> implied. >>>> >> See the License for the specific language governing permissions and >>>> >> limitations under the License. >>>> >> >>>> >> Does it mean Bloc is not under MIT ? Or is it completely unrelated ?

June 21, 2016

Pharo Sprint Fr, 24 June

by Marcus Denker

Hi, A bit late this ANNâ¦ sorry We will organize a Pharo sprint / Moose dojo Friday, 24 June, starting at 10:00am. (Local Time Paris/Berlin/â¦.). Remotely, you can join us on Slack or the IRC channel #pharo on irc.freenode.net <http://irc.freenode.net/> server. During the sprint, we will try to synchronize local and remote Pharo sprinters. Locally, there will be: - Inria Lille, Building B, third floor (RMoD offices). (As the building is not open to the public, please contact us before in case of visiting) - Santiago de Chile (starting a bit later due to time-zone). DCC University of Chile. Marcus

June 21, 2016

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 90d82f: 60103

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Branch: refs/heads/6.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 90d82f74311b44a0e25cb2e0a3ba7d41ebfe5f95 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/90d82f74311b44a0e25cb2e0… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2016-06-21 (Tue, 21 Jun 2016) Changed paths: M Compression.package/ZipArchive.class/instance/reading/readFrom_.st M Kernel.package/Object.class/instance/accessing/name.st M Monticello.package/extension/Class/instance/asClassDefinition.st M MonticelloGUI.package/MCFileRepositoryInspector.class/instance/morphic ui/packageListUpdate.st M RPackage-Tests.package/RPackageReadOnlyCompleteSetupTest.class/instance/expectedfailures/expectedFailures.st M RPackage-Tests.package/RPackageReadOnlyCompleteSetupTest.class/instance/test slice/testClassesAndExtensionMethodsDo.st M Reflectivity-Examples.package/MetalinkIconStyler.class/instance/defaults/iconBlock_.st M Reflectivity-Tools.package/BreakpointIconStyler.class/instance/defaults/iconBlock_.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/CounterIconStyler.class/README.md A Reflectivity-Tools.package/CounterIconStyler.class/definition.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/CounterIconStyler.class/instance/defaults/iconBlock_.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/CounterIconStyler.class/instance/defaults/iconFor_.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/CounterIconStyler.class/instance/defaults/iconLabelBlock_.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/CounterIconStyler.class/instance/testing/shouldStyleNode_.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/ExecutionCounter.class/README.md A Reflectivity-Tools.package/ExecutionCounter.class/class/accessing/allCounters.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/ExecutionCounter.class/class/cleanup/removeAll.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/ExecutionCounter.class/class/cleanup/removeFrom_.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/ExecutionCounter.class/class/instance creation/installOn_.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/ExecutionCounter.class/definition.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/ExecutionCounter.class/instance/accessing/node.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/ExecutionCounter.class/instance/accessing/node_.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/ExecutionCounter.class/instance/add%2Fremove/install.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/ExecutionCounter.class/instance/add%2Fremove/uninstall.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/ExecutionCounter.class/instance/as yet unclassified/count.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/ExecutionCounter.class/instance/as yet unclassified/increase.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/ExecutionCounter.class/instance/initialization/initialize.st M Reflectivity-Tools.package/HaltOnCountIconStyler.class/instance/defaults/iconBlock_.st M Reflectivity-Tools.package/HaltOnceIconStyler.class/instance/defaults/iconBlock_.st M Reflectivity-Tools.package/IconStyler.class/instance/defaults/iconBlock_.st R Reflectivity-Tools.package/Watchpoint.class/class/adding/add_on_.st M Reflectivity-Tools.package/Watchpoint.class/class/instance creation/in_named_.st M Reflectivity-Tools.package/Watchpoint.class/instance/install/install.st M Reflectivity-Tools.package/Watchpoint.class/instance/install/uninstall.st M Reflectivity-Tools.package/WatchpointIconStyler.class/instance/defaults/iconBlock_.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/extension/RBProgramNode/instance/counter.st A Reflectivity-Tools.package/extension/RBProgramNode/instance/hasExecutionCounter.st M Reflectivity-Tools.package/extension/RBProgramNode/instance/watchpoint.st M Ring-Core-Kernel.package/extension/Class/instance/asRingDefinition.st M Rubric.package/RubLipsumWithSegmentsExample.class/instance/user interface/newScrolledText.st M Rubric.package/RubTextSegmentIconDisplayer.class/instance/event handling/invokeIconMenuOfSegments_event_.st M Rubric.package/RubTextSegmentMorph.class/instance/accessing/iconBlock_.st A Rubric.package/RubTextSegmentMorph.class/instance/ui/addItemToMenu_.st R ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - 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June 21, 2016

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/60103 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

June 21, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] endlessloop interruption

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

The image sometimes locks up due to OSSubprocess, but I don't know if this is relatedâ¦ But it is imho also VM issue. Peter On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:29 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > Hi > > I asked eliot and clement if a better management of endlessloop was on the > > agenda of Cog and eliot told me that normally it is already the case. > > Do you have endless loops that cannot be interrupted? > > > Stef > > >

June 21, 2016

Easy to use execution counter with Icon in Editor

by Marcus Denker

Hi, In the 60#103 there will be a new kind of âWatcherâ: an execution-counter. Using the âsuggestionâ menu one can add a counter to any AST node. After, the editor shows a (c) Icon. Mouse over â> current state of the counter is shown. Of course, UI is just a stand-in and could be *much* better. But from a debug perspective, it already should be quite useful to get a feel of how often something gets executed. Henrik suggest this as a demo (and an example of how to install a Counter without using the UI): ExecutionCounter installOn: (RubParagraphDecorator >> #doesNotUnderstand:) ast Marcus

June 21, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Better #haltOnce: per haltOnce state, auto-enable

by Marcus Denker

> On 21 Jun 2016, at 16:48, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > marcus > > do you expect to have object centric debugging features in the near future? > Yes, we have already support for it using conditions on meta linksâ¦ I want to use that first and later look into optimising (so the condition doe not slow down all the other objects). But for debugging, it should be ok. Marcus

June 21, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] Re: System and user processe

by Chris Muller

>> Hmm... I would implement such an API rather via composition than >> inheritance. Such a task does not necessarily have to run in the same image >> but could also be accomplished on another machine. OSProcess has RemoteTask >> for this. Inheritance would make things complicated once one would decide to >> not carry out the computation as a Squeak process. It is implemented via composition, not inheritance. Maybe it is name, ClientProcess, that made you assume it is a subclass of Process..? It is not. :) >> I do like Tony's idea of process groups. We could think this one step >> further an add multiple tags (symbols?) to processes to support >> fine-granular or cross-cutting classifications. > >Tools like the process >> browser could show these tags, group by them, etc. There could be tags to >> identify processes that would stop working once you close the Squeak image >> (e.g. "not resumable")... Hmmm... Application developers could use tags to >> provide hints for other developers and users. Processes already have names, which could facilitate a hierarchical naming if someone wanted, and list filtering in the Process browser would make "grouping" or "finding" a Process pretty much free.. If all you want to do is tag and group processes, I would consider putting them into named groups/containers rather than add more process-level attributes..

June 21, 2016