April 2016 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] canc/del closes windows

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

That key does not close any windows for me in 4.0 or 5.0 on Mac OS X ... > On 07 Apr 2016, at 20:48, Davide Varvello via Pharo-dev <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > From: Davide Varvello <varvello(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: canc/del closes windows > Date: 7 April 2016 at 20:15:51 GMT+2 > To: pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org > > > Paul, > I'm on an iMac, the keyboard is the standard wired one. > here is the guilty key :-) http://imgur.com/xp8mRtI > > Davide > > > Paul DeBruicker wrote >> Hi Davide & Ben, >> >> I've seen this while using an external keyboard, on a Mac Air laptop >> (10.11.4 right now), using Pharo 4. The mac laptop has a key marked >> 'Delete' which is in the 'backspace' location .e.g two keys above >> enter/return, it doesn't happen with that key. It happens with the Del >> key above the number pad on the external apple keyboard I sometimes use. >> I think I've also seen it with a Dell keyboard and can try it with other >> external keyboards tomorrow. >> >> >> Its annoying for sure when it surprises you. >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> >> Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list wrote >>> Hi Guys, >>> Is it only me that sometimes hitting canc/del closes the current window? >>> >>> It's really annoying, I'm on a mac and I guess it's related to cmd button >>> because if I click the cmd button afterward, it disappears (until next >>> time). >>> >>> I tried also on several macs but the result is the same. >>> >>> TIA >>> Davide >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://forum.world.st/canc-del-closes-windows-tp4888805.html >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at >>> Nabble.com. > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/canc-del-closes-windows-tp4888807p4888903.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 7, 2016

Re: canc/del closes windows

by Davide Varvello

Paul, I'm on an iMac, the keyboard is the standard wired one. here is the guilty key :-) http://imgur.com/xp8mRtI Davide Paul DeBruicker wrote > Hi Davide & Ben, > > I've seen this while using an external keyboard, on a Mac Air laptop > (10.11.4 right now), using Pharo 4. The mac laptop has a key marked > 'Delete' which is in the 'backspace' location .e.g two keys above > enter/return, it doesn't happen with that key. It happens with the Del > key above the number pad on the external apple keyboard I sometimes use. > I think I've also seen it with a Dell keyboard and can try it with other > external keyboards tomorrow. > > > Its annoying for sure when it surprises you. > > > Paul > > > > > Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list wrote >> Hi Guys, >> Is it only me that sometimes hitting canc/del closes the current window? >> >> It's really annoying, I'm on a mac and I guess it's related to cmd button >> because if I click the cmd button afterward, it disappears (until next >> time). >> >> I tried also on several macs but the result is the same. >> >> TIA >> Davide >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/canc-del-closes-windows-tp4888805.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at >> Nabble.com. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/canc-del-closes-windows-tp4888807p4888903.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 7, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] canc/del closes windows

by Paul DeBruicker

Hi Davide & Ben, I've seen this while using an external keyboard, on a Mac Air laptop (10.11.4 right now), using Pharo 4. The mac laptop has a key marked 'Delete' which is in the 'backspace' location .e.g two keys above enter/return, it doesn't happen with that key. It happens with the Del key above the number pad on the external apple keyboard I sometimes use. I think I've also seen it with a Dell keyboard and can try it with other external keyboards tomorrow. Its annoying for sure when it surprises you. Paul Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list wrote > Hi Guys, > Is it only me that sometimes hitting canc/del closes the current window? > > It's really annoying, I'm on a mac and I guess it's related to cmd button > because if I click the cmd button afterward, it disappears (until next > time). > > I tried also on several macs but the result is the same. > > TIA > Davide > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/canc-del-closes-windows-tp4888805.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/canc-del-closes-windows-tp4888807p4888898.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 7, 2016

Re: canc/del closes windows

by Davide Varvello

Image ----- Pharo4.0 Latest update: #40609 Unnamed Virtual Machine --------------- /Users/.../Pharo4.0.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-HolgerHansPeterFreyther.21 uuid: e0df6e2d-5694-40e2-8035-dc217200b424 Sep 25 2014 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-HolgerHansPeterFreyther.21 uuid: e0df6e2d-5694-40e2-8035-dc217200b424 Sep 25 2014 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: 81b5d19917dcb78f22482a780deec48c53738396 Date: 2014-09-20 14:36:18 +0200 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14858 Mac Cocoa Cog 5.8b12 21-Sep-10 >1B0534FA-246C-47C5-AB29-7A76C81CCDCB< VMMaker versionString https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: 81b5d19917dcb78f22482a780deec48c53738396 Date: 2014-09-20 14:36:18 +0200 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14858 NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-HolgerHansPeterFreyther.21 uuid: e0df6e2d-5694-40e2-8035-dc217200b424 Sep 25 2014 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-HolgerHansPeterFreyther.21 uuid: e0df6e2d-5694-40e2-8035-dc217200b424 Sep 25 2014 Ben Coman wrote > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Davide Varvello via Pharo-dev > < > pharo-dev@.pharo > > wrote: >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Davide Varvello < > varvello@ > > >> To: > pharo-dev@.pharo >> Cc: >> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 05:24:04 -0700 (PDT) >> Subject: Re: canc/del closes windows >> Hi Ben, >> >> With "it disappears" I intend that weird behaviour. It happens sometimes, >> I >> can't show you a screenshot because it's random. >> >> Usually, I'm on a system browser or on a playground and I hit the delete >> key >> and the window closes itself. >> If I'm lucky and I have just written something without saving and I click >> on >> the delete key, it appears the alert window: "Code has been modified. >> What >> do you want to do?", so I close the alert, click the cmd key and then I >> can >> click the delete key to cancel my writings. > > Sorry nothing comes to mind. > btw, What version and VM are you on? > World > System > System Reporter... > > cheers -ben -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/canc-del-closes-windows-tp4888807p4888869.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 7, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] canc/del closes windows

by Ben Coman

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Davide Varvello via Pharo-dev <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Davide Varvello <varvello(a)yahoo.com> > To: pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org > Cc: > Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 05:24:04 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: canc/del closes windows > Hi Ben, > > With "it disappears" I intend that weird behaviour. It happens sometimes, I > can't show you a screenshot because it's random. > > Usually, I'm on a system browser or on a playground and I hit the delete key > and the window closes itself. > If I'm lucky and I have just written something without saving and I click on > the delete key, it appears the alert window: "Code has been modified. What > do you want to do?", so I close the alert, click the cmd key and then I can > click the delete key to cancel my writings. Sorry nothing comes to mind. btw, What version and VM are you on? World > System > System Reporter... cheers -ben

April 7, 2016

Re: canc/del closes windows

by Davide Varvello

Hi Ben, With "it disappears" I intend that weird behaviour. It happens sometimes, I can't show you a screenshot because it's random. Usually, I'm on a system browser or on a playground and I hit the delete key and the window closes itself. If I'm lucky and I have just written something without saving and I click on the delete key, it appears the alert window: "Code has been modified. What do you want to do?", so I close the alert, click the cmd key and then I can click the delete key to cancel my writings. Davide Ben Coman wrote > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Davide Varvello via Pharo-dev > < > pharo-dev@.pharo > > wrote: >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Davide Varvello < > varvello@ > > >> To: > pharo-dev@.pharo >> Cc: >> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 01:29:21 -0700 (PDT) >> Subject: canc/del closes windows >> Hi Guys, >> Is it only me that sometimes hitting canc/del closes the current window? >> >> It's really annoying, I'm on a mac and I guess it's related to cmd button >> because if I click the cmd button afterward, it disappears (until next >> time). >> >> I tried also on several macs but the result is the same. > > Hi David, I haven't used Pharo on a mac for a while, but I don't > remember experiencing this, though I can't quite picture your > scenario. Could you provide a screen snapshot? When you say "it" > disappears, could you clarify what "it" is? > > cheers -ben -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/canc-del-closes-windows-tp4888807p4888843.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 7, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] cf3322: 50678

by Sean P. DeNigris

GitHub wrote > 16947 Class-side Inst Var "#name" Makes It Too Easy to Break System :) This will make the system more friendly for new users! ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/pharo-project-pharo-core-cf3322-50678-tp4888784p48888… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 7, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Two possible Morphic-related issues

by Carlos Lombardi

Et voilÃ , I just opened the issue, the number given by fogbugz is 17951. Thanks again - Carlos On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Carlos Lombardi <carlombardi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Stephan, > > thank you for your prompt answer. > > We are actually using TextEditor>>changeTextFont, which initiates the > following message call chain > TextEditor>>changeTextFont > StrikeFont class>>fromUser: > MorphicUIManager>>fontFromUser: > StrikeFont class>>fromUser:allowKeyboard: > > Therefore, the method StrikeFont class>>fromUser: is already used. It is > handy to us to use TextEditor>>changeTextFont, because it takes as default > the font used in the currenty pointed character of the editor. > > Effectively, removing the use of the translated method in the MenuMorph > method you transcribed solves the problem. I will try to open an issue. > > Cordially - Carlos Lombardi > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:16 AM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> > wrote: > >> On 05-04-16 23:22, Carlos Lombardi wrote: >> >>> I provisionally patched this issue by modifying the class method in >>> StrikeFont, in order to give the menu Strings instead of Associations. As >>> far as this way of selecting a point size is still usable, it would be >>> nice >>> to have this issue fixed. If there is another, maybe more modern, way of >>> graphically choosing a point size, please let me know. >>> >> This is fixed in Pharo 5, if I understand you correctly: >> >> StrikeFont fromUser: StrikeFont fromUser >> >> seems to do the right thing. >> >> The translated was added 2015-4-25 and removed again 2015-9-3 >> Current implementation is >> >> MenuMorph>addToggle: aString target: anObject selector: aSymbol >> getStateSelector: stateSymbol enablementSelector: enableSymbol >> argumentList: argList >> "Append a menu item with the given label. If the item is selected, it >> will send the given selector to the target object." >> >> |item| >> item := ToggleMenuItemMorph new >> contents: aString; >> target: anObject; >> selector: aSymbol; >> arguments: argList; >> getStateSelector: stateSymbol; >> enablementSelector: enableSymbol. >> ^ self addMenuItem: item >> >> If this solves the problem, you can open an issue for this and we can >> backPort it >> >> Stephan >> >> >> >

April 7, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] canc/del closes windows

by Ben Coman

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Davide Varvello via Pharo-dev <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Davide Varvello <varvello(a)yahoo.com> > To: pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org > Cc: > Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 01:29:21 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: canc/del closes windows > Hi Guys, > Is it only me that sometimes hitting canc/del closes the current window? > > It's really annoying, I'm on a mac and I guess it's related to cmd button > because if I click the cmd button afterward, it disappears (until next > time). > > I tried also on several macs but the result is the same. Hi David, I haven't used Pharo on a mac for a while, but I don't remember experiencing this, though I can't quite picture your scenario. Could you provide a screen snapshot? When you say "it" disappears, could you clarify what "it" is? cheers -ben

April 7, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Two possible Morphic-related issues

by Carlos Lombardi

Hi Stephan, thank you for your prompt answer. We are actually using TextEditor>>changeTextFont, which initiates the following message call chain TextEditor>>changeTextFont StrikeFont class>>fromUser: MorphicUIManager>>fontFromUser: StrikeFont class>>fromUser:allowKeyboard: Therefore, the method StrikeFont class>>fromUser: is already used. It is handy to us to use TextEditor>>changeTextFont, because it takes as default the font used in the currenty pointed character of the editor. Effectively, removing the use of the translated method in the MenuMorph method you transcribed solves the problem. I will try to open an issue. Cordially - Carlos Lombardi On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:16 AM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > On 05-04-16 23:22, Carlos Lombardi wrote: > >> I provisionally patched this issue by modifying the class method in >> StrikeFont, in order to give the menu Strings instead of Associations. As >> far as this way of selecting a point size is still usable, it would be >> nice >> to have this issue fixed. If there is another, maybe more modern, way of >> graphically choosing a point size, please let me know. >> > This is fixed in Pharo 5, if I understand you correctly: > > StrikeFont fromUser: StrikeFont fromUser > > seems to do the right thing. > > The translated was added 2015-4-25 and removed again 2015-9-3 > Current implementation is > > MenuMorph>addToggle: aString target: anObject selector: aSymbol > getStateSelector: stateSymbol enablementSelector: enableSymbol > argumentList: argList > "Append a menu item with the given label. If the item is selected, it > will send the given selector to the target object." > > |item| > item := ToggleMenuItemMorph new > contents: aString; > target: anObject; > selector: aSymbol; > arguments: argList; > getStateSelector: stateSymbol; > enablementSelector: enableSymbol. > ^ self addMenuItem: item > > If this solves the problem, you can open an issue for this and we can > backPort it > > Stephan > > >

April 7, 2016