March 2016 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

TimeZoneDatabase - are we using this?

by phil＠highoctane.be

I saw TimeZoneDatabase on SS3 (and updated this month) Are we using this in Pharo in any way? Seems like a must have. MCHttpRepository location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/TimeZoneDatabase' user: '<youruser>' password: '' Phil

March 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Adding a serialize menu item?

by Max Leske

Thanks HernÃ¡n. Just for completeness: theres Object>>serializeToFileNamed: as a âshorthandâ. Cheers, Max > On 14 Mar 2016, at 07:43, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17818/Add-menu-item-to-serialize-contents… <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17818/Add-menu-item-to-serialize-contents…> > > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > > 2016-03-13 8:45 GMT-03:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>>: > Package it with Fuel :) > > Le 12/3/16 21:27, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand a Ã©crit : > > Hi guys, > > Frequently I need to serialize contents from an inspector/explorer for later work or because image cannot work with big data sets. > Do you find yourself doing this from an inspector? > > FLSerializer serialize: self toFileNamed: 'MyBigArrayOrString.FL' > > Is there a reason for not having a "Serialize" menu entry in the Raw palette? > On the other side, from the File Browser a "Materialize" could be added for .FL files. > > What do you think? > > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > > > >

March 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Adding a serialize menu item?

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17818/Add-menu-item-to-serialize-contents… Cheers, HernÃ¡n 2016-03-13 8:45 GMT-03:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > Package it with Fuel :) > > Le 12/3/16 21:27, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand a Ã©crit : > > Hi guys, >> >> Frequently I need to serialize contents from an inspector/explorer for >> later work or because image cannot work with big data sets. >> Do you find yourself doing this from an inspector? >> >> FLSerializer serialize: self toFileNamed: 'MyBigArrayOrString.FL' >> >> Is there a reason for not having a "Serialize" menu entry in the Raw >> palette? >> On the other side, from the File Browser a "Materialize" could be added >> for .FL files. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Cheers, >> >> HernÃ¡n >> >> > >

March 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Collections-Arithmetic

by stepharo

Yes Esteban is fighting with dragons and I think that he is in need for help. Stef Le 13/3/16 16:30, phil(a)highoctane.be a Ã©crit : > Ah, I don't know but there are issues in the package in SS3 (e.g. > Matrix extension not using the right instVar names). > > I am using a 4.0 here, 5.0 seems to have too many issues at this point. > > FWIW I'll be doing a new project using Pharo so, 4.x is the stable > ground for me. > > I am also busy with TWM for 5.x but experiencing UI lockups due to > some changes linked to how events are handled etc. > > Phil > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu > <mailto:sven@stfx.eu>> wrote: > > But at least the simple ones are already in the image, no ? > > #(1 2 3) * 2 => "#(2 4 6)" > #(1 2 3) * #(4 5 6) => "#(4 10 18)" > > > On 13 Mar 2016, at 16:06, phil(a)highoctane.be > <mailto:phil@highoctane.be> wrote: > > > > There are extensions to have e.g. #* or #+ ... applied to a > collection (or Matrix). > > > > Works for aCollection * aNumber or aCollection * aCollection > > > > (some of these are using quadratic time to do where there are > algorithms to do that with less time). > > > > Phil > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Werner Kassens > <wkassens(a)libello.com <mailto:wkassens@libello.com>> wrote: > > look in squeaksource projects for 'Collections Arithmetic > extensions' > > werner > > > > On 03/13/2016 01:36 PM, stepharo wrote: > > Collections extension to treat vectors of number > > But I cannot find it anymore :) > > > > > > Le 13/3/16 13:30, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : > > this link does not point to anything for me. > > what are we talking about ? > > > > On 13 Mar 2016, at 12:36, phil(a)highoctane.be > <mailto:phil@highoctane.be> wrote: > > > > I like to use these. > > > > http://www.squeaksource.com/@G_BxD77Hzwe-SmwI/hUjIUazY > > > > Now there aren't in PharoExtras. > > > > Shouldn't we have that there? > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

March 13, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Analysis of CI issues and call to action

by stepharo

***THANKS A LOT, MAX!!!*** Le 13/3/16 17:07, Max Leske a Ã©crit : > Hi > > Iâve been poking at the issue validator to figure out why itâs behaving so funny. Iâve run these tests locally and either the first part of the validation runs fine and the validation proceeds to run the tests or it fails after about one minute due to a timeout (which isnât actually one, see below). > I found two things which may or may not be related: > > 1. Many times (but not always) the forked images signal the scheduled delays upon startup. > 2. Some of the forked images do not (always) get a new session (itâs like the startup code doesnât even runâ¦ so weird). > > AFAICT, both always occur together. The main effect of this is that timeout blocks get evaluated when thereâs really no timeout (the timeout is set to 100 minutes for rules and 20 minutes for forked images). A timeout is treated as a validation error which is reflected in the output: > > Validation Errors: a CISUnitTestsRule: Timeout (after 0:01:40:00) occured while loading "Can not create a subclass of TestCaseâ > > A different effect is that the image worker can not distinguish the forked image from the parent image since the session hasnât changed. This can (potentially) lead to the parent image waiting for the forked image which is waiting for itself (thinking it is the parent image) and the whole thing will be hung up. > Note that âforkedâ in this context actually means an image that is a copy, saved with #backupAs: and run with OSProcess (see ImageWorker). > > > I think both issues need to be investigated urgently. They are not only a problem for the CI but have implications for every user. I have opened two sub cases of https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17778/Monkey-now-fails-all-the-time to track both these issues: > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17814/Delays-in-forked-images-get-signale… > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17815/Session-isn-t-always-updated-correc… > > > > Please, if you have a little spare time (and a lot of patience) help us to get rid of these issues. > > > To run the code locally you can use the tracker image (with some extra logging and missing information filled in by me) found here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7b6hbsb8gjxagxc/tracker_image.zip?dl=0 or get your own fresh copy from here: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/5.0-Analysis/job/Pharo-5.0-Issue-Tracker-Ima…. > Then run it from the console like so: ./pharo ~/Downloads/Pharo-5/Pharo-5.0-Issue-Tracker-Image.image ci slice --issue=17809 > > Iâve tested this with > > CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.1722 uuid: e5c44d63-ba75-4cd1-bf4e-c92c4232bbfe Mar 11 2016 > StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-eem.1722 uuid: e5c44d63-ba75-4cd1-bf4e-c92c4232bbfe Mar 11 2016 > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: ded69213d3b73ffbda27417c19cb75fd6b325c82 Date: 2016-03-11 17:48:52 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #572 > > on OS X 10.11.3 (El Capitan). > > > Cheers, > Max >

March 13, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Some bugs I'm experiencing in latest 50

by Thomas Heniart

It works perfectly ! Thanks a lot for your help and your time Max Thomas, 2016-03-13 18:14 GMT+01:00 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com>: > Yes, now I see. I was testing in the playground. > > While this wont solve your problem, in my case I could use shift + alt + > cmd + 5 to enter the square brackets. > > The problem is that shift + alt + [ is assigned to âpreviousâ. It is a > known problem that our shortcuts are not layout agnostic. > > You can change the binding manually by opening the keymap browser, > selecting the entry for âpreviousâ, right clicking on it and selecting > âbrowse definitionâ. > > HTH, > Max > > On 13 Mar 2016, at 17:54, Thomas Heniart <heniart.thomas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I downloaded image from pharo.org, same for the VM (Spur) > I just took latest for both and I always have the same problem... > In a playground it works fine but not in Nautilus > > Cheers, > Thomas > > 2016-03-13 17:40 GMT+01:00 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com>: > >> Canât reproduce with latest image + latest VM on OS X El Capitan with >> âFrenchâ layout. Where did you download the image from? Which VM are you >> using? >> >> Cheers, >> Max >> >> >> On 13 Mar 2016, at 17:34, Thomas Heniart <heniart.thomas(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> No, French >> >> 2016-03-13 15:30 GMT+01:00 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> German keyboard layout? >>> >>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 15:08, Thomas Heniart <heniart.thomas(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> OS X Yosemite for me >>> >>> 2016-03-13 14:47 GMT+01:00 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>>> Are you on Windows? There was a similar report a couple of days ago. >>>> >>>> > On 13 Mar 2016, at 13:52, Thomas Heniart <heniart.thomas(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > I have a strange bug too with a fresh image just downloaded >>>> > >>>> > When I create a new method in a class, the shortcut to create a block >>>> expression (alt + shift + 5) does not work >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

March 13, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Some bugs I'm experiencing in latest 50

by Max Leske

Yes, now I see. I was testing in the playground. While this wont solve your problem, in my case I could use shift + alt + cmd + 5 to enter the square brackets. The problem is that shift + alt + [ is assigned to âpreviousâ. It is a known problem that our shortcuts are not layout agnostic. You can change the binding manually by opening the keymap browser, selecting the entry for âpreviousâ, right clicking on it and selecting âbrowse definitionâ. HTH, Max > On 13 Mar 2016, at 17:54, Thomas Heniart <heniart.thomas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I downloaded image from pharo.org <http://pharo.org/>, same for the VM (Spur) > I just took latest for both and I always have the same problem... > In a playground it works fine but not in Nautilus > > Cheers, > Thomas > > 2016-03-13 17:40 GMT+01:00 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com <mailto:maxleske@gmail.com>>: > Canât reproduce with latest image + latest VM on OS X El Capitan with âFrenchâ layout. Where did you download the image from? Which VM are you using? > > Cheers, > Max > > >> On 13 Mar 2016, at 17:34, Thomas Heniart <heniart.thomas(a)gmail.com <mailto:heniart.thomas@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> No, French >> >> 2016-03-13 15:30 GMT+01:00 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com <mailto:maxleske@gmail.com>>: >> German keyboard layout? >> >>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 15:08, Thomas Heniart <heniart.thomas(a)gmail.com <mailto:heniart.thomas@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> OS X Yosemite for me >>> >>> 2016-03-13 14:47 GMT+01:00 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com <mailto:maxleske@gmail.com>>: >>> Are you on Windows? There was a similar report a couple of days ago. >>> >>> > On 13 Mar 2016, at 13:52, Thomas Heniart <heniart.thomas(a)gmail.com <mailto:heniart.thomas@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> > >>> > I have a strange bug too with a fresh image just downloaded >>> > >>> > When I create a new method in a class, the shortcut to create a block expression (alt + shift + 5) does not work >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

March 13, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Some bugs I'm experiencing in latest 50

by Thomas Heniart

I downloaded image from pharo.org, same for the VM (Spur) I just took latest for both and I always have the same problem... In a playground it works fine but not in Nautilus Cheers, Thomas 2016-03-13 17:40 GMT+01:00 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com>: > Canât reproduce with latest image + latest VM on OS X El Capitan with > âFrenchâ layout. Where did you download the image from? Which VM are you > using? > > Cheers, > Max > > > On 13 Mar 2016, at 17:34, Thomas Heniart <heniart.thomas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > No, French > > 2016-03-13 15:30 GMT+01:00 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com>: > >> German keyboard layout? >> >> On 13 Mar 2016, at 15:08, Thomas Heniart <heniart.thomas(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> OS X Yosemite for me >> >> 2016-03-13 14:47 GMT+01:00 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> Are you on Windows? There was a similar report a couple of days ago. >>> >>> > On 13 Mar 2016, at 13:52, Thomas Heniart <heniart.thomas(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > I have a strange bug too with a fresh image just downloaded >>> > >>> > When I create a new method in a class, the shortcut to create a block >>> expression (alt + shift + 5) does not work >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

March 13, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Some bugs I'm experiencing in latest 50

by Max Leske

Canât reproduce with latest image + latest VM on OS X El Capitan with âFrenchâ layout. Where did you download the image from? Which VM are you using? Cheers, Max > On 13 Mar 2016, at 17:34, Thomas Heniart <heniart.thomas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > No, French > > 2016-03-13 15:30 GMT+01:00 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com <mailto:maxleske@gmail.com>>: > German keyboard layout? > >> On 13 Mar 2016, at 15:08, Thomas Heniart <heniart.thomas(a)gmail.com <mailto:heniart.thomas@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> OS X Yosemite for me >> >> 2016-03-13 14:47 GMT+01:00 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com <mailto:maxleske@gmail.com>>: >> Are you on Windows? There was a similar report a couple of days ago. >> >> > On 13 Mar 2016, at 13:52, Thomas Heniart <heniart.thomas(a)gmail.com <mailto:heniart.thomas@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > I have a strange bug too with a fresh image just downloaded >> > >> > When I create a new method in a class, the shortcut to create a block expression (alt + shift + 5) does not work >> >> >> > >

March 13, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Some bugs I'm experiencing in latest 50

by Thomas Heniart

No, French 2016-03-13 15:30 GMT+01:00 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com>: > German keyboard layout? > > On 13 Mar 2016, at 15:08, Thomas Heniart <heniart.thomas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > OS X Yosemite for me > > 2016-03-13 14:47 GMT+01:00 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com>: > >> Are you on Windows? There was a similar report a couple of days ago. >> >> > On 13 Mar 2016, at 13:52, Thomas Heniart <heniart.thomas(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > I have a strange bug too with a fresh image just downloaded >> > >> > When I create a new method in a class, the shortcut to create a block >> expression (alt + shift + 5) does not work >> >> >> > >

March 13, 2016