February 2016 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] an example of debugging with moldable tools

by Serge Stinckwich

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi, > > One thing we noticed over the past year since we introduced GT in Pharo is that people still tend to use these tools in a similar way classic tools were used. We think there is a more potential in these tools. > > To change this, we would like to collect stories of how using these tools enabled a workflow that was otherwise not possible. To get this started, we will start to document more consistently some of the sessions, and we would like to get input from your as well. The idea is to create a catalog of tutorials that people can follow and get inspired from. > > Let me start. I recently had to debug a small problem, and I ended up having an experience that I found beautiful: > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/debugging-duplicated-behavior-with-gt… > > What do you think? Great and enlightening work ! Actually, we spend more than one hour on this bug during last Pharo Sprint with Onil. We trace the problem to be linked to the duplication of Announcement creation somewhere, but we miss your knowledge ;-) -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

Feb. 3, 2016

an example of debugging with moldable tools

by Tudor Girba

Hi, One thing we noticed over the past year since we introduced GT in Pharo is that people still tend to use these tools in a similar way classic tools were used. We think there is a more potential in these tools. To change this, we would like to collect stories of how using these tools enabled a workflow that was otherwise not possible. To get this started, we will start to document more consistently some of the sessions, and we would like to get input from your as well. The idea is to create a catalog of tutorials that people can follow and get inspired from. Let me start. I recently had to debug a small problem, and I ended up having an experience that I found beautiful: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/debugging-duplicated-behavior-with-gt… What do you think? Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Don't give to get. Just give."

Feb. 3, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monkey: "Check seems to be stuck. I will try it again"

by Martin Dias

Ok, thanks Denis. Maybe the job should switch to Work needed? so it does not start again and again (like it happened in my case). MartÃn El 3/2/2016 6:38, "Denis Kudriashov" <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> escribiÃ³: > I increased timeout for two hours > > 2016-02-03 10:10 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com>: > >> We added new job to resume hanging status "Monkey is checking". >> Maybe we should increase timeout. Now when Monkey checks issue more than >> 1 hour we revert it status to "Fix Review Needed" >> >> 2016-02-03 4:24 GMT+01:00 Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> That's Monkey's result in my case ( >>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea) I don't see >>> other cases with the same result. Don't know where to look up to understand >>> it... Any pointer? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Martin >>> >> >> >

Feb. 3, 2016

System Browser class pane strange behaviour

by Ben Coman

I have a talent for breaking things ;) ... Found some strange behaviour here... I open System Browser select package AST-Core select class ASTCache make code pane dirty by typing 11111 in the class definition select class ASTCacheReset click <Discard> button type 11111 --> oh! where did the buttons go? :) Bisecting finds it.... exists in... 50564, 50510, 50440, 50400, 50384, 50380, 50378 similar but located differently... 50300, 50368, 50376, 50377 still there... 50250, 50232, 50228 not in... 50100, 50150, 50200, 50216, 50224, 50226, 50227 So it looks like this was introduced in build 50228... * 16197 update and merge Rubric * 16198 Add users button in message browser * 16201 Remove unsent extension methods in System-Changes http://forum.world.st/pharo-project-pharo-core-56107d-50228-td4842794.html and it was modified by build 50378... * 16751 link invalidation: install cm directly for primitives and optionCompileOnLinkInstallation * 16729 Removing PluggableTextField from FT http://forum.world.st/pharo-project-pharo-core-e8c312-50378-td4854678.html Logged https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?17520 cheers -ben P.S. thank you to those who made PharoLauncher work seemlessly with pre-spur images

Feb. 3, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Travis CI integration added to OSSubprocess and FFICHeaderExtractor

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 03 Feb 2016, at 12:54, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 5:00 PM, <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com <mailto:serge.stinckwich@gmail.com>> wrote: > For building Pharo, Squeak or GemStone projects on travis there is also the SmalltalkCI project: > https://github.com/hpi-swa/smalltalkCI/blob/master/README.md <https://github.com/hpi-swa/smalltalkCI/blob/master/README.md> > > Smalltalk language is supported by travis ;-) > > > Hi Serge, > > Thanks for the link. Yes, I knew that before starting. But at that time I talked with Esteban and he told me it was not yet working correctly with Pharo. In fact, there were some pull request from Esteban pending for integration. So I went with the old, simple, working approach. And it is still not working correctly (even if my pull request was integrated and Fabio continued working on it). > > Whenever it works in Pharo, I would indeed like to give it a try. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 29 janv. 2016, at 18:28, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com <mailto:marianopeck@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> BTW, Esteban Maringolo asked me if the Travis scripts were "sharable". Well, Esteban Lorenzano shared them with me and I improved them a bit for my needs, so of course they are shareable! And all my projects listed as MIT, they are all MIT all the way down. >> >> Cheers, >> >> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 3:36 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu <mailto:sven@stfx.eu>> wrote: >> Nice ! >> >> > On 29 Jan 2016, at 01:03, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com <mailto:marianopeck@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > Hi guys, >> > >> > This is just to let you know that with the help of Esteban and between some work together [1] [2] I was able to have Travis CI integrated with OSSubprocess and FFICHeaderExtractor [3] [4] . Both projects are built and tested under Linux and OSX. Note also that one of the projects does a lot of FFI calls to system libs like libc and the other even generates C programs, compiles them and run it. Even the OS dependencies (like installing the compiler) are resolved correctly :) >> > >> > If someone wants to know how it's done, simply check the .travis.yml and the scripts/run-test.sh of each project [5] [6]. >> > >> > [1] https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17488 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17488> >> > [2] https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17490 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17490> >> > [3] https://travis-ci.org/marianopeck/OSSubprocess <https://travis-ci.org/marianopeck/OSSubprocess> >> > [4] https://travis-ci.org/marianopeck/FFICHeaderExtractor <https://travis-ci.org/marianopeck/FFICHeaderExtractor> >> > [5] https://github.com/marianopeck/OSSubprocess <https://github.com/marianopeck/OSSubprocess> >> > [6] https://github.com/marianopeck/FFICHeaderExtractor <https://github.com/marianopeck/FFICHeaderExtractor> >> > >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Mariano >> > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com <http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com <http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/> > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com <http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/>

Feb. 3, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Travis CI integration added to OSSubprocess and FFICHeaderExtractor

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi Holger, As I pointed before, smalltalk-ci it is still not working. Mariano is using an alternative I explained here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/84 In general, smalltalk-ci is an attempt to have a "level playing fieldâ between different smalltalks (for now pharo and squeak, in close future gemstone) and maybe it has sense to use it if you are going to develop compatible packagesâ¦ in âplain pharoâ my approach (who largely borrows from others) could do a perfectly fine job. > On 03 Feb 2016, at 11:37, Holger Freyther <holger(a)freyther.de> wrote: > > >> On 29 Jan 2016, at 21:00, serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com wrote: > > Dear Serge, > >> >> For building Pharo, Squeak or GemStone projects on travis there is also the SmalltalkCI project: >> https://github.com/hpi-swa/smalltalkCI/blob/master/README.md >> >> Smalltalk language is supported by travis ;-) > > I tried to use it but I am struggling a bit. I have created a ConfigurationOfMyProject using Versionner and now I try to load it using the smalltalkCI/run.sh script. The issue is that I don't have a Baseline (as Versionner) doesn't create it and the tool tries to load #stable of my project that is contained in git. > > I looked at SCIMetacelloLoadSpec and it doesn't seem to have a 'version' instance variable. Do you know what I am missing? Do I have to create a BaselineOf by hand? > > kind regards > holger > >

Feb. 3, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Travis CI integration added to OSSubprocess and FFICHeaderExtractor

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 5:00 PM, <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > For building Pharo, Squeak or GemStone projects on travis there is also > the SmalltalkCI project: > https://github.com/hpi-swa/smalltalkCI/blob/master/README.md > > Smalltalk language is supported by travis ;-) > > Hi Serge, Thanks for the link. Yes, I knew that before starting. But at that time I talked with Esteban and he told me it was not yet working correctly with Pharo. In fact, there were some pull request from Esteban pending for integration. So I went with the old, simple, working approach. Whenever it works in Pharo, I would indeed like to give it a try. > Sent from my iPhone > > On 29 janv. 2016, at 18:28, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > BTW, Esteban Maringolo asked me if the Travis scripts were "sharable". > Well, Esteban Lorenzano shared them with me and I improved them a bit for > my needs, so of course they are shareable! And all my projects listed as > MIT, they are all MIT all the way down. > > Cheers, > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 3:36 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> > wrote: > >> Nice ! >> >> > On 29 Jan 2016, at 01:03, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > Hi guys, >> > >> > This is just to let you know that with the help of Esteban and between >> some work together [1] [2] I was able to have Travis CI integrated with >> OSSubprocess and FFICHeaderExtractor [3] [4] . Both projects are built and >> tested under Linux and OSX. Note also that one of the projects does a lot >> of FFI calls to system libs like libc and the other even generates C >> programs, compiles them and run it. Even the OS dependencies (like >> installing the compiler) are resolved correctly :) >> > >> > If someone wants to know how it's done, simply check the .travis.yml >> and the scripts/run-test.sh of each project [5] [6]. >> > >> > [1] https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17488 >> > [2] https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17490 >> > [3] https://travis-ci.org/marianopeck/OSSubprocess >> > [4] https://travis-ci.org/marianopeck/FFICHeaderExtractor >> > [5] https://github.com/marianopeck/OSSubprocess >> > [6] https://github.com/marianopeck/FFICHeaderExtractor >> > >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Mariano >> > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >> >> >> > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Feb. 3, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Travis CI integration added to OSSubprocess and FFICHeaderExtractor

by Frank Shearar

On 3 February 2016 at 10:37, Holger Freyther <holger(a)freyther.de> wrote: > >> On 29 Jan 2016, at 21:00, serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com wrote: > > Dear Serge, > >> >> For building Pharo, Squeak or GemStone projects on travis there is also the SmalltalkCI project: >> https://github.com/hpi-swa/smalltalkCI/blob/master/README.md >> >> Smalltalk language is supported by travis ;-) > > I tried to use it but I am struggling a bit. I have created a ConfigurationOfMyProject using Versionner and now I try to load it using the smalltalkCI/run.sh script. The issue is that I don't have a Baseline (as Versionner) doesn't create it and the tool tries to load #stable of my project that is contained in git. > > I looked at SCIMetacelloLoadSpec and it doesn't seem to have a 'version' instance variable. Do you know what I am missing? Do I have to create a BaselineOf by hand? This bug report might help?: https://github.com/hpi-swa/smalltalkCI/issues/24 frank > kind regards > holger

Feb. 3, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Travis CI integration added to OSSubprocess and FFICHeaderExtractor

by Serge Stinckwich

Dear Holger, you have to talk with, Fabio Niephaus, the lead dev of SmalltalkCI. Regards On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Holger Freyther <holger(a)freyther.de> wrote: > >> On 29 Jan 2016, at 21:00, serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com wrote: > > Dear Serge, > >> >> For building Pharo, Squeak or GemStone projects on travis there is also the SmalltalkCI project: >> https://github.com/hpi-swa/smalltalkCI/blob/master/README.md >> >> Smalltalk language is supported by travis ;-) > > I tried to use it but I am struggling a bit. I have created a ConfigurationOfMyProject using Versionner and now I try to load it using the smalltalkCI/run.sh script. The issue is that I don't have a Baseline (as Versionner) doesn't create it and the tool tries to load #stable of my project that is contained in git. > > I looked at SCIMetacelloLoadSpec and it doesn't seem to have a 'version' instance variable. Do you know what I am missing? Do I have to create a BaselineOf by hand? > > kind regards > holger > > -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

Feb. 3, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Travis CI integration added to OSSubprocess and FFICHeaderExtractor

by Holger Freyther

> On 29 Jan 2016, at 21:00, serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com wrote: Dear Serge, > > For building Pharo, Squeak or GemStone projects on travis there is also the SmalltalkCI project: > https://github.com/hpi-swa/smalltalkCI/blob/master/README.md > > Smalltalk language is supported by travis ;-) I tried to use it but I am struggling a bit. I have created a ConfigurationOfMyProject using Versionner and now I try to load it using the smalltalkCI/run.sh script. The issue is that I don't have a Baseline (as Versionner) doesn't create it and the tool tries to load #stable of my project that is contained in git. I looked at SCIMetacelloLoadSpec and it doesn't seem to have a 'version' instance variable. Do you know what I am missing? Do I have to create a BaselineOf by hand? kind regards holger

Feb. 3, 2016