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Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: Too frequent crashes :-(

by Peter Uhnak

Hi Alex, I certainly understand your frustration, I felt it too on Windows to the point where I stopped using Pharo for couple of weeks out of rage, and then spend in total at least 40+ hours digging into the VM until I added usable workaround for Windows. Not to mention how frustrating was the fixing it. Obviously on Mac there are still some unresolved pathways, but it will not magically fix itself. The reason for the crash (bad object pinning and moving of canvas memory) has been known for some time now, so more crash.dmps do not give any more insight. If this is to be resolved then one of the two have to happen: A) Someone who really understands VM/image memory management / GC / pinning fixes the issue. B) Someone with Mac (which I don't have) digs around BitBlt code (or wherever it was) and adds a similar workaround. Considering the issue has emerged more than a year ago (Spur switch), I don't think (A) is going to happen any time soon, so I guess the only chance is to get elbows greasy and fix it yourself (B) (or you make one of your students suffer :)). I didn't have a single Roassal/BitBlt related crash on Windows since my fix was added, so there should be a way to add a workaround for Mac too. (there are of course crashes related to FT, but the story is arguably the same). TL;DR: I don't think it's on a todo list of anyone who actually understands this, so the only way to fix it is by yourself or find a concrete person that would be willing to dig into it. Peter

Dec. 18, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] ptsd rage

by Tudor Girba

Hi Robert, I am really sorry to hear your condition, and indeed, I hope you will find a remedy. Thank you very much for this email. I can imagine it was hard to write it. Cheers, Tudor > On Dec 17, 2016, at 2:57 AM, Robert Withers <robert.w.withers(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I need to apologize for all my dread behavior. Here is the reason, and I am on service-connected disability. Current diagnosis is Complex PTSD. Sorry about all my sturm und drang. > > http://www.ptsd.va.gov/public/problems/anger-and-trauma.asp > > > Sincerely, > > Robert > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Reasonable is what we are accustomed with."

Dec. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Too frequent crashes :-(

by stepharong

Which vm exactly? On which os? Which version of Pharo? Such report are totally useless without any precise information. The proof is that I do not get any crash recently with Pharo. I will let you guess my os, image version and vm version because this is too much fun. Stef > Hi! > > Vincent and I are experiencing many crashes from GrafPort>copyBits. It > crashes every couple of minutes. > > I know that not much can be done so far. Stability is my biggest concern > with Pharo :-( > I use the latest VM. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

Dec. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Too frequent crashes :-(

by Alexandre Bergel

Okay, tryingâ¦ Alexandre > On Dec 16, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > According to crash.dmp TRMorph>drawOn: draws an image using FormCanvas>>#image:at:sourceRect:rule: at a coordinate represented by a Float point. > Try to round it to integer point. > > Cheers, > Alex > > On 16 December 2016 at 16:34, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi! > > Vincent and I are experiencing many crashes from GrafPort>copyBits. It crashes every couple of minutes. > > I know that not much can be done so far. Stability is my biggest concern with Pharo :-( > I use the latest VM. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 16, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Too frequent crashes :-(

by Aliaksei Syrel

According to crash.dmp TRMorph>drawOn: draws an image using FormCanvas>>#image:at:sourceRect:rule: at a coordinate represented by a Float point. Try to round it to integer point. Cheers, Alex On 16 December 2016 at 16:34, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi! > > Vincent and I are experiencing many crashes from GrafPort>copyBits. It > crashes every couple of minutes. > > I know that not much can be done so far. Stability is my biggest concern > with Pharo :-( > I use the latest VM. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > >

Dec. 16, 2016

Too frequent crashes :-(

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! Vincent and I are experiencing many crashes from GrafPort>copyBits. It crashes every couple of minutes. I know that not much can be done so far. Stability is my biggest concern with Pharo :-( I use the latest VM. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 16, 2016

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Branch: refs/tags/60328 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Dec. 16, 2016

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 2e3b76: 60328

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Branch: refs/heads/6.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 2e3b7669e4845a9da3d46fcb667c20427a9f30d9 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/2e3b7669e4845a9da3d46fcb… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2016-12-16 (Fri, 16 Dec 2016) Changed paths: M ConfigurationOfFlatQA.package/ConfigurationOfFlatQA.class/instance/symbolic versions/stable_.st A ConfigurationOfFlatQA.package/ConfigurationOfFlatQA.class/instance/versions/versionv3%5F2%5F10_.st M Nautilus.package/AbstractNautilusUI.class/instance/styling/addIconStyle.st A Nautilus.package/Nautilus.class/class/settings/inlineCritiques.st A Nautilus.package/Nautilus.class/class/settings/inlineCritiques_.st M Nautilus.package/Nautilus.class/class/settings/nautilusSettingsOn_.st M QualityAssistant.package/QASettings.class/class/settings-definition/qaNautilusPlugginSettingOn_.st A QualityAssistant.package/QASettings.class/class/settings-definition/settingsMoovedNotice_.st R ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script60327.st A ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script60328.st R ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update60327.st A ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update60328.st M ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st Log Message: ----------- 60328 19472 QA v3.2.10 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19472 19433 Display critiques in Nautilus inline https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19433 http://files.pharo.org/image/60/60328.zip

Dec. 16, 2016

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Branch: refs/tags/60327 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Dec. 15, 2016

[pharo-project/pharo-core] c65132: 60327

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Branch: refs/heads/6.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: c651320cf4706202e520e6a2655468e126f97ba3 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/c651320cf4706202e520e6a2… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2016-12-15 (Thu, 15 Dec 2016) Changed paths: A Kernel.package/DelaySpinScheduler.class/README.md A Kernel.package/DelaySpinScheduler.class/definition.st A Kernel.package/DelaySpinScheduler.class/instance/low priority processes/schedule_.st A Kernel.package/DelaySpinScheduler.class/instance/low priority processes/unschedule_.st A Reflectivity-Tests.package/ReflectivityReificationTest.class/instance/tests - variablenodes/testAccessTemp.st M Reflectivity.package/HookGenerator.class/instance/private/genReification_for_.st M Reflectivity.package/MetaLink.class/instance/accessing/allReifications.st R ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script60326.st A ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script60327.st R ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update60326.st A ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update60327.st M ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st Log Message: ----------- 60327 19467 Metalinks: support accessing variables for arguments https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19467 19430 Promote DelaySpinScheduler from experimental status (part 1) https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19430 http://files.pharo.org/image/60/60327.zip

Dec. 15, 2016