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Re: [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one)

by Henrik Nergaard

Yup, tried both itimer and threaded linux-x86_64 vmâs Best regards, Henrik From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Thierry Goubier Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 1:37 PM To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one) 2016-11-09 13:28 GMT+01:00 Henrik Nergaard <henrik.nergaard(a)uia.no<mailto:henrik.nergaard@uia.no>>: Got it running on Windows using âUbuntu on Windowsâ and Xming server. There are some failing kernel tests, but no crash so far ;) You've used the linux 64bits vm? Thierry Best regards, Henrik From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org<mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org>] On Behalf Of Esteban Lorenzano Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 12:01 PM To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org<mailto:pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org>> Subject: [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one) Hi guys, I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know there are still missing things :) Can you download a VM from here: https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files and start using it, and report problems? thanks! Esteban ps: Windows users: Iâm still not there, Iâm having problems to build third-party libraries with cygwinâ¦ also if someone can help me here I would thank it :)

Nov. 9, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one)

by Cyril Ferlicot D.

On 09/11/2016 13:34, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > Does not open either my Pharo 6 or Pharo 5 image > > I am talking about this one > > pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip > <https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-x8…> > > Are your images 64bits images? -- Cyril Ferlicot http://www.synectique.eu 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

Nov. 9, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one)

by Thierry Goubier

2016-11-09 13:28 GMT+01:00 Henrik Nergaard <henrik.nergaard(a)uia.no>: > Got it running on Windows using âUbuntu on Windowsâ and Xming server. > > There are some failing kernel tests, but no crash so far ;) > You've used the linux 64bits vm? Thierry > > > Best regards, > > Henrik > > > > *From:* Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] *On Behalf > Of *Esteban Lorenzano > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 9, 2016 12:01 PM > *To:* Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > *Subject:* [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one) > > > > Hi guys, > > > > I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know > there are still missing things :) > > Can you download a VM from here: https://bintray.com/ > estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files > > > > and start using it, and report problems? > > > > thanks! > > Esteban > > > > ps: Windows users: Iâm still not there, Iâm having problems to build > third-party libraries with cygwinâ¦ also if someone can help me here I would > thank it :) >

Nov. 9, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one)

by Dimitris Chloupis

why not use Visual Studio ? On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:01 PM Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi guys, > > I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know > there are still missing things :) > Can you download a VM from here: > https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files > > and start using it, and report problems? > > thanks! > Esteban > > ps: Windows users: Iâm still not there, Iâm having problems to build > third-party libraries with cygwinâ¦ also if someone can help me here I would > thank it :) >

Nov. 9, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one)

by Dimitris Chloupis

Does not open either my Pharo 6 or Pharo 5 image I am talking about this one pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip <https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-x8…> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:29 PM Henrik Nergaard <henrik.nergaard(a)uia.no> wrote: > Got it running on Windows using âUbuntu on Windowsâ and Xming server. > > There are some failing kernel tests, but no crash so far ;) > > > > Best regards, > > Henrik > > > > *From:* Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] *On Behalf > Of *Esteban Lorenzano > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 9, 2016 12:01 PM > *To:* Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > *Subject:* [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one) > > > > Hi guys, > > > > I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know > there are still missing things :) > > Can you download a VM from here: > https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files > > > > and start using it, and report problems? > > > > thanks! > > Esteban > > > > ps: Windows users: Iâm still not there, Iâm having problems to build > third-party libraries with cygwinâ¦ also if someone can help me here I would > thank it :) >

Nov. 9, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one)

by Henrik Nergaard

Got it running on Windows using âUbuntu on Windowsâ and Xming server. There are some failing kernel tests, but no crash so far ;) Best regards, Henrik From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Esteban Lorenzano Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 12:01 PM To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> Subject: [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one) Hi guys, I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know there are still missing things :) Can you download a VM from here: https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files and start using it, and report problems? thanks! Esteban ps: Windows users: Iâm still not there, Iâm having problems to build third-party libraries with cygwinâ¦ also if someone can help me here I would thank it :)

Nov. 9, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one)

by Thierry Goubier

The 64bits VM has no crash; sometimes I see some temporary freeze (unlocked with Ctrl+., but nothing "locking" is found when the debugger appear). Thierry 2016-11-09 12:00 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > Hi guys, > > I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know > there are still missing things :) > Can you download a VM from here: https://bintray.com/ > estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files > > and start using it, and report problems? > > thanks! > Esteban > > ps: Windows users: Iâm still not there, Iâm having problems to build > third-party libraries with cygwinâ¦ also if someone can help me here I would > thank it :) >

Nov. 9, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one)

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 9 Nov 2016, at 12:26, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 2016-11-09 12:00 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: > Hi guys, > > I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know there are still missing things :) > Can you download a VM from here: https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files <https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files> > > and start using it, and report problems? > > thanks! > Esteban > > ps: Windows users: Iâm still not there, Iâm having problems to build third-party libraries with cygwinâ¦ also if someone can help me here I would thank it :) > > Hm, building third party libs with cygwin ? Does that means all windows user will have to use a cygwin runtime to use pharo ? No. You can build regular DLLs using cygwin. As we did with MSYS (in fact, Pharo.exe too is built with cygwin). Esteban > >

Nov. 9, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one)

by Nicolai Hess

2016-11-09 12:00 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > Hi guys, > > I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know > there are still missing things :) > Can you download a VM from here: https://bintray.com/ > estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files > > and start using it, and report problems? > > thanks! > Esteban > > ps: Windows users: Iâm still not there, Iâm having problems to build > third-party libraries with cygwinâ¦ also if someone can help me here I would > thank it :) > Hm, building third party libs with cygwin ? Does that means all windows user will have to use a cygwin runtime to use pharo ?

Nov. 9, 2016

Breaking the 4GB barrier with Pharo 6 64-bit

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

OK, I am quite excited about the future possibilities of 64-bit Pharo. So I played a bit more with the current test version [1], trying to push the limits. In the past, it was only possible to safely allocate about 1.5GB of memory even though a 32-bit process' limit is theoretically 4GB (the OS and the VM need space too). Allocating a couple of 1GB ByteArrays is one way to push memory use, but it feels a bit silly. So I loaded a bunch of projects (including Seaside) to push the class/method counts (7K classes, 100K methods) and wrote a script [2] that basically copies part of the class/method metadata including 2 copies of each's methods source code as well as its AST (bypassing the cache of course). This feels more like a real object graph. I had to create no less than 7 (SEVEN) copies (each kept open in an inspector) to break through the mythical 4GB limit (real allocated & used memory). I also have the impression that the image shrinking problem is gone (closing everything frees memory, saving the image has it return to its original size, 100MB in this case). Great work, thank you. Bright future again. Sven PS: Yes, GC is slower; No, I did not yet try to save such a large image. [1] VM here: http://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build#files/ <http://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build#files/> Image here: http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip> [2] | meta | ASTCache reset. meta := Dictionary new. Smalltalk allClassesAndTraits do: [ :each | | classMeta methods | (classMeta := Dictionary new) at: #name put: each name asSymbol; at: #comment put: each comment; at: #definition put: each definition; at: #object put: each. methods := Dictionary new. classMeta at: #methods put: methods. each methodsDo: [ :method | | methodMeta | (methodMeta := Dictionary new) at: #name put: method selector; at: #source put: method sourceCode; at: #ast put: method ast; at: #args put: method argumentNames asArray; at: #formatted put: method ast formattedCode; at: #comment put: (method comment ifNotNil: [ :str | str withoutQuoting ]); at: #object put: method. methods at: method selector put: methodMeta ]. meta at: each name asSymbol put: classMeta ]. meta. -- Sven Van Caekenberghe Proudly supporting Pharo http://pharo.org http://association.pharo.org http://consortium.pharo.org

Nov. 9, 2016