November 2016 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] macOS Sierra support

by MartinW

If I try to start the Pharo from the Download page e.g. from my Desktop I get the following information: ----- Pharo cannot write to the changes file named /private/var/folders/9p/h6h_ntqs2gs9kztvdp9mrm1m0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1CA39D30-C5A9-4599-82F0-8FFA46606D5B/d/Pharo5.0.app/Contents/Resources/Pharo5.0.changes. Please check that you have write permission for this file. You won't be able to save this image correctly until you fix this. ----- And Pharo does not work at all, because it tries to write to changes all the time, of course. The hint on the Website looks good. kilon.alios wrote > This is weird but I have never experienced this "sandbox" thing > > I have Sierra, updated to the latest and when I download this zip to my > downloads folder, I uncompress it and double click the application without > moving to the application folder it works without doing anything > additionally or complaining about it. > > I am almost always do this with applications I download because I like to > test them before copying them to the application folder. Never had any > issues. > > So apparently my Sierra loves me :D -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/macOS-Sierra-support-tp4917181p4922953.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Nov. 14, 2016

#printShowingMaxDecimalPlaces: What do you think?

by Cyril Ferlicot D.

Hi! I have a problem in an application, I need to print some numbers with 2 decimals max. The numbers can be an Integer, Float or Fraction. I checked and found Number>>#printShowingDecimalPlaces:. This is cool but this is not what I want because when I get "10", I want to print "10" and not "10.00". So I created a method Number>>#printShowingMaxDecimalPlaces: to do so. At first I made a mistake and I was not the only one. To avoid this kind of mistakes I think this method should be in Pharo by default. This is really useful when building a GUI. This method already exists in Squeak. I want to ask to the list, do you think this method should make it in the image? I think this is important but I also know that people do not want to have too much things in the kernel. So, do you think this is important enough or not? -- Cyril Ferlicot http://www.synectique.eu 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

Nov. 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pragma keyword / selector / methodSelector

by Pavel Krivanek

We should not revert whole update so I created an issue: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19338/Revert-18233-improving-Pragma-API -- Pavel 2016-11-14 14:30 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > Agreed. So who is doing it? > > Doru > > > > On Nov 14, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > we need to revert. > > this is a huge mess in a very inappropriate moment :) > > > > Esteban > > > >> On 14 Nov 2016, at 13:56, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Indeed, I forgot that #selector is doing something else. This is a bit > of a mess. Either we revert it today, or we leave it. Otherwise, more > projects will adopt the new API only to break again afterwards. > >> > >> Doru > >> > >>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. < > cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> On 14/11/2016 13:44, Tudor Girba wrote: > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> Please do not revert the API. Just comment out the deprecation. The > code in Moose was already updated to the new API and I presume other > projects might be in the same situation. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Doru > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> www.tudorgirba.com > >>>> www.feenk.com > >>>> > >>>> "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get." > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> Changing the API without a deprecation phase is bad. This kind of > >>> breaking change without warning is something companies can fear. This > is > >>> even more important when there is such a dangerous change. #selector is > >>> still here but do something differentâ¦ This is bad to just change it in > >>> one go. > >>> > >>> Maybe some projects updated but most companies do not follow the > >>> development version of Pharo. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Cyril Ferlicot > >>> > >>> http://www.synectique.eu > >>> > >>> 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, > >>> 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France > >> > >> -- > >> www.tudorgirba.com > >> www.feenk.com > >> > >> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "Don't give to get. Just give." > > > > > > > >

Nov. 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pragma keyword / selector / methodSelector

by Tudor Girba

Agreed. So who is doing it? Doru > On Nov 14, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > we need to revert. > this is a huge mess in a very inappropriate moment :) > > Esteban > >> On 14 Nov 2016, at 13:56, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Indeed, I forgot that #selector is doing something else. This is a bit of a mess. Either we revert it today, or we leave it. Otherwise, more projects will adopt the new API only to break again afterwards. >> >> Doru >> >>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On 14/11/2016 13:44, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Please do not revert the API. Just comment out the deprecation. The code in Moose was already updated to the new API and I presume other projects might be in the same situation. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> www.feenk.com >>>> >>>> "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Changing the API without a deprecation phase is bad. This kind of >>> breaking change without warning is something companies can fear. This is >>> even more important when there is such a dangerous change. #selector is >>> still here but do something differentâ¦ This is bad to just change it in >>> one go. >>> >>> Maybe some projects updated but most companies do not follow the >>> development version of Pharo. >>> >>> -- >>> Cyril Ferlicot >>> >>> http://www.synectique.eu >>> >>> 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, >>> 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> www.feenk.com >> >> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." >> >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Don't give to get. Just give."

Nov. 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pragma keyword / selector / methodSelector

by Esteban Lorenzano

we need to revert. this is a huge mess in a very inappropriate moment :) Esteban > On 14 Nov 2016, at 13:56, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Indeed, I forgot that #selector is doing something else. This is a bit of a mess. Either we revert it today, or we leave it. Otherwise, more projects will adopt the new API only to break again afterwards. > > Doru > >> On Nov 14, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On 14/11/2016 13:44, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Please do not revert the API. Just comment out the deprecation. The code in Moose was already updated to the new API and I presume other projects might be in the same situation. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> www.feenk.com >>> >>> "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get." >>> >>> >>> >> >> Changing the API without a deprecation phase is bad. This kind of >> breaking change without warning is something companies can fear. This is >> even more important when there is such a dangerous change. #selector is >> still here but do something differentâ¦ This is bad to just change it in >> one go. >> >> Maybe some projects updated but most companies do not follow the >> development version of Pharo. >> >> -- >> Cyril Ferlicot >> >> http://www.synectique.eu >> >> 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, >> 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." > >

Nov. 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] macOS Sierra support

by Esteban Lorenzano

done > On 14 Nov 2016, at 13:46, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Looks good. I would only add explicitly that we are talking about Appleâs security policies. > > ââ¦ Due to changes in security policies of MacOS â¦â > > Cheers, > Doru > > >> On Nov 14, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> for the moment, I added this nice (?) alert when you press mac download button: >> >> <Screen Shot 2016-11-14 at 11.35.13.png> >> >>> On 14 Nov 2016, at 11:30, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On 14 Nov 2016, at 11:01, MartinW <wm(a)fastmail.fm> wrote: >>>> >>>> Can someone put a note to the website (http://pharo.org/download)? It is >>>> frustrating for users to follow the link to >>>> http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo5.0-mac.zip from there and get a >>>> defunct Pharo installation. >>> >>> no, in fact that link should work. >>> â¦ and in fact, it worksâ¦ is just that due the changes in sierra, the bundle needs to be put in /Applications to not be copied into a sandbox, readonly place. >>> >>> Iâm working on have this working in a different way: is time to make PharoLauncher the default download. That way it will be in /Applications naturally and your images will be in a correct place naturally (I also would like a âadd command line toolsâ option to install a pharo and pharo-ui in /usr/local/bin). >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sean P. DeNigris wrote >>>>> >>>>> EstebanLM wrote >>>>>> the regular download by zeroconf should give you an usable VM. >>>>> That worked - thanks! >>>> >>>> Yes, this VM works well :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/macOS-Sierra-support-tp4917181p4922891.html >>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> >>> >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "We are all great at making mistakes." > > > > > > > > >

Nov. 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pragma keyword / selector / methodSelector

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Indeed, I forgot that #selector is doing something else. This is a bit of a mess. Either we revert it today, or we leave it. Otherwise, more projects will adopt the new API only to break again afterwards. Doru > On Nov 14, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 14/11/2016 13:44, Tudor Girba wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Please do not revert the API. Just comment out the deprecation. The code in Moose was already updated to the new API and I presume other projects might be in the same situation. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> www.feenk.com >> >> "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get." >> >> >> > > Changing the API without a deprecation phase is bad. This kind of > breaking change without warning is something companies can fear. This is > even more important when there is such a dangerous change. #selector is > still here but do something differentâ¦ This is bad to just change it in > one go. > > Maybe some projects updated but most companies do not follow the > development version of Pharo. > > -- > Cyril Ferlicot > > http://www.synectique.eu > > 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, > 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "It's not how it is, it is how we see it."

Nov. 14, 2016

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/60290 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Nov. 14, 2016

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 75a952: 60290

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Nov. 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pragma keyword / selector / methodSelector

by Cyril Ferlicot D.

On 14/11/2016 13:44, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > Please do not revert the API. Just comment out the deprecation. The code in Moose was already updated to the new API and I presume other projects might be in the same situation. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get." > > > Changing the API without a deprecation phase is bad. This kind of breaking change without warning is something companies can fear. This is even more important when there is such a dangerous change. #selector is still here but do something differentâ¦ This is bad to just change it in one go. Maybe some projects updated but most companies do not follow the development version of Pharo. -- Cyril Ferlicot http://www.synectique.eu 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

Nov. 14, 2016