November 2016 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Pharo 5 and retina displays in 2016?

by Stephan Eggermont

On 30/11/16 20:32, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Maybe, but the thing is, you are looking at it half size, in some > sense, when it is on a Retina display. Anyway, to me, it is OK, but > my eyes are no longer what they used to be. I can imagine young > people being more sensitive to it. Nah, it just is blurry. I've played a bit with krono's vm, and it is a very noticable difference. Much better readable and less tiring. And you mostly only notice when trying to go back from HiDPI to low. Stephan

Nov. 30, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to report website text bugs?

by Ben Coman

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Henrik Nergaard <henrik.nergaard(a)uia.no> wrote: > SystemNavigation new allLocalCallsOn: 'No change' ofClass: ProtoObject . > > "a Set(Delay class>>#delaySchedulerClass:)" That is only called from two places: * DelayBenchmark>>bench: * Delay class >> systemSettingOn: so it is curious that #delaySchedulerClass: is being invoked. > From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of > Esteban Lorenzano > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:14 PM > To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] How to report website text bugs? > > > On 30 Nov 2016, at 12:09, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 30 Nov 2016, at 11:26, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: > > I just tried the new example on the website (factorial is a great example > from the command line - I like it). > > The output is: > > $ ./pharo Pharo.image eval "42 factorial" > 'No change' > 1405006117752879898543142606244511569936384000000000 > > Out of curiosity, What is the âNo Changeâ message above the answer? > no idea :) > obviouslyâ¦ a remaining error :P > and btwâ¦ thatâs obviously a transcript message. actually an #inform: On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 12:14 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Tim, > >> On 30 Nov 2016, at 11:26, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: >> >> I just tried the new example on the website (factorial is a great example from the command line - I like it). >> >> The output is: >> >> $ ./pharo Pharo.image eval "42 factorial" >> 'No change' >> 1405006117752879898543142606244511569936384000000000 >> $ >> >> Out of curiosity, What is the âNo Changeâ message above the answer? > > What version are you using, I just tried (on macOS 10.12.1), in a terminal: > > prometheus:pharo6 sven$ curl get.pharo.org/60+vm | bash > % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current > Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed > 100 2901 100 2901 0 0 2565 0 0:00:01 0:00:01 --:--:-- 2571 > Downloading the latest 60 Image: > http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo.zip > Pharo.image > Downloading the latest pharoVM: > http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-mac-stable.zip > pharo-vm/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo > Downloading PharoV60.sources: > http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/sources.zip > Creating starter scripts pharo and pharo-ui > > prometheus:pharo6 sven$ ./pharo Pharo.image printVersion > [version] 6.0 #60311 > > prometheus:pharo6 sven$ ./pharo Pharo.image eval '42 factorial' > 1405006117752879898543142606244511569936384000000000 > > Works like a charm. I assume it works on Linux too. I just tried the same with new download of Pharo 5 and it worked without outputting 'No change' cheers -ben

Nov. 30, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Pharo 5 and retina displays in 2016?

by Tim Mackinnon

It could be I don't have something obvious setup correctly - but I notice a marked difference between the text in my email client which is super crisp and then when I excitedly loaded up a new Pharo5 on the new laptop and discovered it markedly fuzzy. Enough so that it got me searching for solutions for it I should try taking side by side screenshots though - as maybe someone might spot my mistake or maybe it might convince me that I'm imagining it (it's a new laptop that I'm just getting used to). Tim Sent from my iPhone > On 30 Nov 2016, at 19:32, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > >> On 30 Nov 2016, at 20:13, Martin McClure <martin(a)hand2mouse.com> wrote: >> >> On 11/30/2016 10:24 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> The screenshot that I posted earlier was a partial one, a PNG of 1796x1256 144 pixels/inch. >>> >>> What I see here,http://forum.world.st/attachment/4925242/0/Screen%20Shot%202016-11-30%20at%2011.32.53.png seems to be what I posted. >> >> Thanks. Upon investigation, it was my Thunderbird email client that led me astray -- what it claimed was full size was nowhere near full size. Following your link or saving the image in the email and viewing it with a proper image viewer give better results. > > OK > >> Looking at the full-size image, it is quite obvious that it's been scaled up from a lower-resolution image, and I can see how those with sharp vision would find it to be distressingly blurry on a retina display. > > Maybe, but the thing is, you are looking at it half size, in some sense, when it is on a Retina display. Anyway, to me, it is OK, but my eyes are no longer what they used to be. I can imagine young people being more sensitive to it. > >> Regards, >> >> -Martin > >

Nov. 30, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] how to find projects on github

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Yes, you are evil; for me it is the 3rd hit: But the project misses a top level description ... > On 30 Nov 2016, at 21:31, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > Hi > > I said to nicolas that I should use my super evil power to break iceberg > as requested by him. So I tried. > > So I went to github and I typed > iceberg pharo > pharo iceberg > passerini > iceberg > then I browsed pharo-core and related and I could not find anything. > > I miss the smalltalkhub.com/list > > > Stef > > -- >

Nov. 30, 2016

how to find projects on github

by stepharo

Hi I said to nicolas that I should use my super evil power to break iceberg as requested by him. So I tried. So I went to github and I typed iceberg pharo pharo iceberg passerini iceberg then I browsed pharo-core and related and I could not find anything. I miss the smalltalkhub.com/list Stef --

Nov. 30, 2016

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/60314 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Nov. 30, 2016

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 3c416d: 60314

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Branch: refs/heads/6.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 3c416d020b89caf956d7213bc5c155fe8e82e836 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/3c416d020b89caf956d7213b… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2016-11-30 (Wed, 30 Nov 2016) Changed paths: M Kernel.package/ClassOrganization.class/instance/backward compatibility/classify_under_suppressIfDefault_.st R Kernel.package/ProtocolOrganizer.class/instance/protocol/classify_inProtocolNamed_suppressIfDefault_.st A Kernel.package/ProtocolOrganizer.class/instance/protocol/protocolOfSelector_.st A RPackage-Core.package/extension/CompiledMethod/instance/isExtension.st M Reflectivity-Examples.package/ExecutionDisplayMorph.class/README.md R Reflectivity-Examples.package/ExecutionDisplayMorph.class/instance/as yet unclassified/noteExecuted.st R Reflectivity-Examples.package/ExecutionDisplayMorph.class/instance/as yet unclassified/step.st R Reflectivity-Examples.package/ExecutionDisplayMorph.class/instance/as yet unclassified/stepTime.st R Reflectivity-Examples.package/ExecutionDisplayMorph.class/instance/as yet unclassified/wantsSteps.st A Reflectivity-Examples.package/ExecutionDisplayMorph.class/instance/meta link action/noteExecuted.st A Reflectivity-Examples.package/ExecutionDisplayMorph.class/instance/model - stepping/stepTime.st A Reflectivity-Examples.package/ExecutionDisplayMorph.class/instance/private/nextAlphaStep.st A Reflectivity-Examples.package/ExecutionDisplayMorph.class/instance/stepping and presenter/step.st A Reflectivity-Examples.package/ExecutionDisplayMorph.class/instance/stepping and presenter/wantsSteps.st M Reflectivity-Examples.package/ExecutionDisplayPlugin.class/instance/execution Visualizer/noteExectuted_.st A Reflectivity-Examples.package/ExecutionDisplayPlugin.class/instance/private/isMethodAlreadyLinked_.st R ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script60313.st A ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script60314.st R ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update60313.st A ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update60314.st M ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st Log Message: ----------- 60314 19401 New method isExtension for CompiledMethod https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19401 19344 No event about auto deletion of empty protocol when last method is moved from it https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19344 19276 Endless loop with ExecutionDisplayPlugin https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19276 http://files.pharo.org/image/60/60314.zip

Nov. 30, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Pharo 5 and retina displays in 2016?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 30 Nov 2016, at 20:13, Martin McClure <martin(a)hand2mouse.com> wrote: > > On 11/30/2016 10:24 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> The screenshot that I posted earlier was a partial one, a PNG of 1796x1256 144 pixels/inch. >> >> What I see here,http://forum.world.st/attachment/4925242/0/Screen%20Shot%202016-11-30%20at%2011.32.53.png seems to be what I posted. > > Thanks. Upon investigation, it was my Thunderbird email client that led me astray -- what it claimed was full size was nowhere near full size. Following your link or saving the image in the email and viewing it with a proper image viewer give better results. OK > Looking at the full-size image, it is quite obvious that it's been scaled up from a lower-resolution image, and I can see how those with sharp vision would find it to be distressingly blurry on a retina display. Maybe, but the thing is, you are looking at it half size, in some sense, when it is on a Retina display. Anyway, to me, it is OK, but my eyes are no longer what they used to be. I can imagine young people being more sensitive to it. > Regards, > > -Martin > >

Nov. 30, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Pharo 5 and retina displays in 2016?

by Martin McClure

On 11/30/2016 10:24 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > The screenshot that I posted earlier was a partial one, a PNG of 1796x1256 144 pixels/inch. > > What I see here,http://forum.world.st/attachment/4925242/0/Screen%20Shot%202016-11-30%20at%2011.32.53.png seems to be what I posted. Thanks. Upon investigation, it was my Thunderbird email client that led me astray -- what it claimed was full size was nowhere near full size. Following your link or saving the image in the email and viewing it with a proper image viewer give better results. Looking at the full-size image, it is quite obvious that it's been scaled up from a lower-resolution image, and I can see how those with sharp vision would find it to be distressingly blurry on a retina display. Regards, -Martin

Nov. 30, 2016

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/60313 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Nov. 30, 2016