January 2016 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to get launcher launching Spur images?

by Blondeau Vincent

I just solved the bug that appears on Pharo 5, updated the configuration and uploaded it to the catalogs. It should work now. Vincent Ps: I was using a Pharo 4.0 image De : Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] De la part de stepharo EnvoyÃ© : jeudi 14 janvier 2016 10:44 Ã : Pharo Development List Objet : Re: [Pharo-dev] How to get launcher launching Spur images? I got it. I was trying to use Launcher in Pharo 50. I do not why I was trying it. Now it works in Pharo 40. Le 10/1/16 18:49, stepharo a Ã©crit : Hi I changed the setting to be the following but I cannot get a spur image started on mac. Does anybody succeed? Stef [cid:image001.png@01D14EBA.4FCBB990] ________________________________ Ce message et les piÃ¨ces jointes sont confidentiels et rÃ©servÃ©s Ã l'usage exclusif de ses destinataires. Il peut Ã©galement Ãªtre protÃ©gÃ© par le secret professionnel. Si vous recevez ce message par erreur, merci d'en avertir immÃ©diatement l'expÃ©diteur et de le dÃ©truire. L'intÃ©gritÃ© du message ne pouvant Ãªtre assurÃ©e sur Internet, la responsabilitÃ© de Worldline ne pourra Ãªtre recherchÃ©e quant au contenu de ce message. Bien que les meilleurs efforts soient faits pour maintenir cette transmission exempte de tout virus, l'expÃ©diteur ne donne aucune garantie Ã cet Ã©gard et sa responsabilitÃ© ne saurait Ãªtre recherchÃ©e pour tout dommage rÃ©sultant d'un virus transmis. This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy it. As its integrity cannot be secured on the Internet, the Worldline liability cannot be triggered for the message content. Although the sender endeavours to maintain a computer virus-free network, the sender does not warrant that this transmission is virus-free and will not be liable for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted.

Jan. 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to get launcher launching Spur images?

by stepharo

I got it. I was trying to use Launcher in Pharo 50. I do not why I was trying it. Now it works in Pharo 40. Le 10/1/16 18:49, stepharo a Ã©crit : > Hi > > I changed the setting to be the following but I cannot get a spur > image started on mac. > Does anybody succeed? > > Stef > >

Jan. 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Sounds like Goodies

by olivier auverlot

yes, the project is on SmalltalkHub ( http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/olivierauverlot/Phonetix/main) It's work in progress for french & english languages. Phonetix contains: * Flesh Indicator, * Gunning Fog Indicator, * Hamming Distance, * Levenshtein Distance * Syllabes counter, * Soundex (French & English), * Soundex2 (French & English), * Phonex, * Nysiis Olivier 2016-01-14 9:48 GMT+01:00 Guillaume Larcheveque < guillaume.larcheveque(a)gmail.com>: > For Soundex, I am quite sure that Olivier Auverlot implemented it in > Pharo, maybe also the other ones. > > 2016-01-13 16:50 GMT+01:00 Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de>: > >> The dolphin 7 open source repo includes some contributions from Udo >> including >> an implementation for Levenshtein distance [1]. It's a single method + >> test case and easy to >> port. >> >> The algorithm [2] is useful to find out how close two strings are >> (approximate string matching). >> >> There is also SoundEx [4] and SoundsLike [5] (Soundex, Double Metaphone >> and NYSIIS algorithms) >> for Pharo available. >> >> I just want to let anyone know - just in case someone works on a more >> "robust" autocompletion >> that is also typo aware. ;) >> Having custom templates [6] like in Eclipse would also be good to have in >> future Pharo code editor. >> >> More to add to the wishlist? Damn ... Santa already passed by... >> >> Have fun >> T. >> >> [1] >> https://github.com/dolphinsmalltalk/Contributions/tree/master/Udo%20Schneid… >> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levenshtein_distance >> [3] >> https://github.com/dolphinsmalltalk/Contributions/tree/master/Udo%20Schneid… >> [4] http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~riverdusty/SXSoundEx >> [5] http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~UdoSchneider/SoundsLike >> [6] http://www.tutorialspoint.com/eclipse/eclipse_code_templates.htm >> >> > > > -- > *Guillaume Larcheveque* > >

Jan. 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Sounds like Goodies

by Guillaume Larcheveque

For Soundex, I am quite sure that Olivier Auverlot implemented it in Pharo, maybe also the other ones. 2016-01-13 16:50 GMT+01:00 Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de>: > The dolphin 7 open source repo includes some contributions from Udo > including > an implementation for Levenshtein distance [1]. It's a single method + > test case and easy to > port. > > The algorithm [2] is useful to find out how close two strings are > (approximate string matching). > > There is also SoundEx [4] and SoundsLike [5] (Soundex, Double Metaphone > and NYSIIS algorithms) > for Pharo available. > > I just want to let anyone know - just in case someone works on a more > "robust" autocompletion > that is also typo aware. ;) > Having custom templates [6] like in Eclipse would also be good to have in > future Pharo code editor. > > More to add to the wishlist? Damn ... Santa already passed by... > > Have fun > T. > > [1] > https://github.com/dolphinsmalltalk/Contributions/tree/master/Udo%20Schneid… > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levenshtein_distance > [3] > https://github.com/dolphinsmalltalk/Contributions/tree/master/Udo%20Schneid… > [4] http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~riverdusty/SXSoundEx > [5] http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~UdoSchneider/SoundsLike > [6] http://www.tutorialspoint.com/eclipse/eclipse_code_templates.htm > > -- *Guillaume Larcheveque*

Jan. 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to get launcher launching Spur images?

by stepharo

I executed the expression in the class comment: ConfigurationOfPharoLauncher load Stef Le 14/1/16 09:25, stepharo a Ã©crit : > Sorry to be that stupid but I cannot make launcher work. :( > This is just the third time I try. > I took latest Spur I loaded the latest configuration from the Launcher > repository > and when I do that I get a DNU when I open it. > > So which version in which repository is working? > > Stef > >

Jan. 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to get launcher launching Spur images?

by stepharo

Sorry to be that stupid but I cannot make launcher work. :( This is just the third time I try. I took latest Spur I loaded the latest configuration from the Launcher repository and when I do that I get a DNU when I open it. So which version in which repository is working? Stef

Jan. 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to get launcher launching Spur images?

by stepharo

What this experience shows to me is that just having the distribution repository is a pain because Now I have to find where the PharoLauncher is stored to be able to see and compare the contents of both repository. In addition a browse configuration menu item is missing (especially when you just load the configuration to read it). Stef Le 14/1/16 08:58, stepharo a Ã©crit : > Has the configuration in the catalog been updated? > > Stef > > Le 13/1/16 20:38, Damien Cassou a Ã©crit : >> On January 13, 2016 8:27:10 PM GMT+01:00, "Esteban A. Maringolo" >> <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Is the Ubuntu PPA updated automatically by the CI? >> No. Markus, on CC, is responsible for that. >> > > >

Jan. 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to get launcher launching Spur images?

by stepharo

Has the configuration in the catalog been updated? Stef Le 13/1/16 20:38, Damien Cassou a Ã©crit : > On January 13, 2016 8:27:10 PM GMT+01:00, "Esteban A. Maringolo" <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Is the Ubuntu PPA updated automatically by the CI? > No. Markus, on CC, is responsible for that. >

Jan. 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Code reviews

by Ben Coman

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 2:26 AM, David Allouche <david(a)allouche.net> wrote: > >> On 13 Jan 2016, at 18:37, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:22 AM, David Allouche <david(a)allouche.net> wrote: >>> >>> By the way, how do you guys do code reviews for code integrated into the >>> core? >> >> Its fairly informal. Once a Slice has been submitted to the >> Pharo5Inbox the associated Issue on Fogbugz is <Resolved> to "Fix >> review Needed" - people review it out and comment. Unfortunately with >> limited resources, sometime resolved issues can languish if reviewer >> don't feel its within their expertise, and often it falls the to small >> group of the core-devs from Inria. As Pharo grows more popular we >> may need some improved processes to reduce load on core-devs. > > I believe that is an area that needs improving. But probably not right now. > >> I'd be >> interested in what you've seen work in other environments. > > Unfortunately, I do not have a lot of direct and relevant experience there. We did code reviews at Canonical, but I would never apply the kind of process we used there in a community project. > > I do believe it is essential that the path from "someone submits code" and "send code review" be as frictionless as possible. Code reviews are hard and time consuming. Any time spent not actually reading and commenting code is a put off. > > Concretely, that means I think a good, interactive, actively maintained, web-based code review tool is essential. I heard good things about github. But since people in this community seem to have a strong bias towards doing everything in Pharo, that might not be such a good idea... That has generally been the Smalltalk-way (since fixing things is 10 times more productive for us than another language), but there is a general recognition that with limited resources we can't do everything to provide the same infrastructure reliability as the big players. I *think* there is growing acceptance that github is probably the way to go and worth a try -- but *exactly* how it might interface with Pharo dev workflow is an open question. I think ideally we would have a github client tool in-Image, so it remains simple to look up senders and other implementors, but using the github web interface would be the first step. cheers -ben > > In any case, I think it should be easy to review code without loading the change in the image. > >> >> Have you seen these... >> http://pharo.org/contribute-propose-fix > > I have seen it. But I did not feel that was relevant to me: I was not yet familiar with any of tools mentioned there, nor was I familiar with the policies surrounding code contributions. > >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/?W68 > > I had seen it too, when exploring the issue tracker. And similarly, I felt it was not yet relevant to me. So I quickly forgot about it :-) > > I will be sure to refer to those documents as my involvement and confidence increase. > > Regards.

Jan. 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bad layoutFrame>>#hash

by Ben Coman

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 5:45 AM, David Allouche <david(a)allouche.net> wrote: > >> On 13 Jan 2016, at 20:32, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >> >> Hi david >> >> I would like to turn your post into a chapter for a forthcoming book so that people can read and get the idea. > > Yes I would be glad :-) Please just remember to credit the author. > > Is there a recommended license for Pharo documentation? If not, I am happy to release that text under the MIT License. > > I would also like to review your derived work. But that is not a requirement. > >> I did not think about the same object. Is it ok for you? >> >> Stef >> >> PS: May be this was obvious for you that we should all get this out of your previous mail but it was not my case >> and not after 8 hours on intense work. > > Sorry, I do not understand what you are saying here. I do not want to read between the lines, because I would probably misunderstand your intention. > > Regards. I hope its okay if I jump in and read between the lines when I see to two French people trying to sort out the subtle meanings of english over email. On any given day anyone can be overworked/stressed/worn out, and they don't have much time to reason deeply on things. I read "obvious" as an acknowledgement that there was further implicit background knowledge you likely had to "apply" the info from wikipedia. I notice lately Stef's posts have been much shorter than usual, even terse - from which I infer he is flat out. I think Stef's english suffers when he is in a hurry - only a tiny bit, but email amplifies this. Don't worry David. When our fiery Stef is upset at you, you won't miss it ;) cheers -ben

Jan. 14, 2016