January 2016 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why there is no setting to disable QA?

by stepharo

Hi nicolai Le 17/1/16 11:29, Nicolai Hess a Ã©crit : > > Hi > > Why there is no setting for that? > > Stef > > > > You can remove the Nautilus plugin (Nautilus window menu -> plugin > manager) Yes I saw looking around. Now I have to dive into it to script it so that I avoid to be forced as today to redo my screenshots (to avoid all the false positive on class creation). Because else > For the spotter and inspector integration, there is a setting (default > "disabled") >

Jan. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why there is no setting to disable QA?

by Nicolai Hess

2016-01-17 11:22 GMT+01:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > Hi > > Why there is no setting for that? > > Stef > > You can remove the Nautilus plugin (Nautilus window menu -> plugin manager) For the spotter and inspector integration, there is a setting (default "disabled")

Jan. 17, 2016

Why there is no setting to disable QA?

by stepharo

Hi Why there is no setting for that? Stef

Jan. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Getting Updated Pharo By Example out the door

by Dimitris Chloupis

I am here to help you Stef , I am actually doing what you are doing going one chapter at a time, but for me its not 3 chapter per week but rather 1 chapter per week but I can boost my speed to 3 chapters per week and just dont pay so much attention to detail as I currently do. My goal so far was to focus on Pharo 4 and not Pharo 5, so I can make a Pharo 4 release (github release and github tag) and then move to pharo 5 at least one month before pharo 5 is released. But because I know that your MOOC is based on Pharo 5 maybe you want to move UPBE directly to pharo 5 (not hard to do because we have already documented some parts of pharo 5) which works for me too. On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 11:05 AM stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > Hi guys > > I will read from start to end the book and we will get it on lulu. I > plan to read up to 3 chapters per week. > If you want to help for real this is the time. > > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Books/job/UpdatedPharoByExample… > > I rewrote the chapter on metaclass and a couple of other points because > TranslucentColor is not available anymore. > I will not rewrite what I do not like (I should now have written in the > first place :). So I'm not looking > for the perfect solution but to get something done. > > - First > we will host http://www.pharoByExample.org at http://books.pharo.org > > - Second > we will create a new entry for Updated pharo by example and (a new > entry for numerical method book too). > > - Third > Read and fix Updated > Need a new cover (will ask lusy) > -> done > > > > > Stef > > >

Jan. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Indeed, this is the goal. What is the deadline until when we could still do something visual with the debugger? Cheers, Doru > On Jan 17, 2016, at 9:55 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > Please publish this change fast because after all the coding videos of the mooc will be impacted. > > Le 17/1/16 09:05, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : >> Hi, >> >> Indeed. See below how it looks like in the latest development version. >> >> We have not yet integrate this one because we still need little changes in FastTable to be able to resize columns and not make the column names clickable. >> >> >> <Mail Attachment.png> >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >>> On Jan 17, 2016, at 8:07 AM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openInWorld.com> wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Cyril Ferlicot D. >>> <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> And more, it make the debugger "ventilated" (I don't know if the term >>>> work in English too). I mean that with more space between the classes >>>> and the methods it's better for the eye of the user. >>> >>> Never heard the term used that way in graphic design, but it makes >>> perfect sense. >>> cheers -ben >>> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> www.feenk.com >> >> "If you can't say why something is relevant, >> it probably isn't." >> > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her."

Jan. 17, 2016

Getting Updated Pharo By Example out the door

by stepharo

Hi guys I will read from start to end the book and we will get it on lulu. I plan to read up to 3 chapters per week. If you want to help for real this is the time. https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Books/job/UpdatedPharoByExample… I rewrote the chapter on metaclass and a couple of other points because TranslucentColor is not available anymore. I will not rewrite what I do not like (I should now have written in the first place :). So I'm not looking for the perfect solution but to get something done. - First we will host http://www.pharoByExample.org at http://books.pharo.org - Second we will create a new entry for Updated pharo by example and (a new entry for numerical method book too). - Third Read and fix Updated Need a new cover (will ask lusy) -> done Stef

Jan. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

by stepharo

Please publish this change fast because after all the coding videos of the mooc will be impacted. Le 17/1/16 09:05, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : > Hi, > > Indeed. See below how it looks like in the latest development version. > > We have not yet integrate this one because we still need little > changes in FastTable to be able to resize columns and not make the > column names clickable. > > > > Cheers, > Doru > > >> On Jan 17, 2016, at 8:07 AM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openInWorld.com >> <mailto:btc@openInWorld.com>> wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Cyril Ferlicot D. >> <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com <mailto:cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> And more, it make the debugger "ventilated" (I don't know if the term >>> work in English too). I mean that with more space between the classes >>> and the methods it's better for the eye of the user. >> >> Never heard the term used that way in graphic design, but it makes >> perfect sense. >> cheers -ben >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> > www.feenk.com > > "If you can't say why something is relevant, > it probably isn't." >

Jan. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Color yzw

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Indeed. Thanks. Could you pass your sketch around? Maybe someone else can jump in. Cheers, Doru > On Jan 17, 2016, at 9:49 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > This is supercool that you propose a working solution. > I'm going over the Mooc exercises (text version first to get redy to shoot the videos). > > Stef > > Le 16/1/16 13:26, Nicolai Hess a Ã©crit : >> >> >> 2016-01-16 10:11 GMT+01:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: >> >>>> anyone an idea? >>>> >>> I'm trying to think. >>> Looks like it would be good to be able to make a distinction between symbols and selectors (selectors installed >>> in method dictionaries) >>> >> >> yes, this would improve code completion a bit, too, as there are more symbols than symbols that are actually names >> of methods. >> >> The data could be created per environment (Smalltalk globals) the first time and then cached till shutdown. >> (it would be an array of size 46451, pointing to existing symbols). >> >> The environment could cache sent selectors, tooâ¦ pablo did an experiment with that. >> >> Marcus >> >> >> How about a new SymbolTable "SelectorTable" that gets new entries on every method compilation ? >> >> I hacked a simple experimental version. >> But I don't yet understand the workflow for initialisation of the Symbol class (with rehash, interned, and compacting). >> >> >> >> > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them."

Jan. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Color yzw

by stepharo

> I tried some methods from TBehavior basicAddSelector:withMethod: > but for example Nautilus, directly modifies method dict Where? we should fix it. > >> >> I hacked a simple experimental version. >> But I don't yet understand the workflow for initialisation of the >> Symbol class (with rehash, interned, and compacting). >> > > If we hook into adding methods, then compactSymbolTable and rehash > could just reset the SelectorTable and fill it after by going over > all methodsâ¦ > > > > see attached changesets. > I will have a look. I know that andres valloud implemented a better SymbolTable but he never released it open-source. > load with: > > DangerousClassNotifier disableDuring:[ > String subclass: #Symbol > instanceVariableNames: '' > classVariableNames: 'NewSymbols OneCharacterSymbols SymbolTable > SelectorTable' > package: 'Collections-Strings' > ]. > > DangerousClassNotifier disableDuring:[ > 'selectortable.1.cs' > asFileReference fileIn. > ]. > Symbol initSelectorTable. > 'use_selector_table.cs' asFileReference fileIn. > > what do you think ? > > (selectortable.cs defines SelectorTable and some methods in Symbol and > String) > (use_selector_table adds selectors as internedSelectorSymbol if this > selector is set as a selector on CompiledMethod > and uses findInternedSelector .... in RubStyler visitMessageNode) > > > > Marcus > >

Jan. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Color yzw

by stepharo

This is supercool that you propose a working solution. I'm going over the Mooc exercises (text version first to get redy to shoot the videos). Stef Le 16/1/16 13:26, Nicolai Hess a Ã©crit : > > > 2016-01-16 10:11 GMT+01:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr > <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>: > > >>> anyone an idea? >>> >> I'm trying to think. >> Looks like it would be good to be able to make a distinction >> between symbols and selectors (selectors installed >> in method dictionaries) >> > > yes, this would improve code completion a bit, too, as there are > more symbols than symbols that are actually names > of methods. > > The data could be created per environment (Smalltalk globals) the > first time and then cached till shutdown. > (it would be an array of size 46451, pointing to existing symbols). > > The environment could cache sent selectors, tooâ¦ pablo did an > experiment with that. > > Marcus > > > How about a new SymbolTable "SelectorTable" that gets new entries on > every method compilation ? > > I hacked a simple experimental version. > But I don't yet understand the workflow for initialisation of the > Symbol class (with rehash, interned, and compacting). > > >

Jan. 17, 2016