September 2015 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] If all Pharo projects were on GitHub...

by Thierry Goubier

Le 27/09/2015 13:12, Ferlicot D. Cyril a Ã©crit : > Le 27/09/2015 12:11, Dimitris Chloupis a Ã©crit : >> we have more than a nice Git integration. I have been using Github for >> my pharo project for over a year now without any issue, the last few >> months I have been using gitfiltree which is making it even easier. >> Definitely beats the alternatives . >> > > Hi! > > Did you try to use git on a big project with a team? Did you try to > merge .st files ? > I heard it's really annoying to merge files with meta informations on git. > An other point is that git file tree will not work on Windows if we do > not fix the problem of the stdio. And a lot of people out of the > community use Windows, so this is not a issue we should forget. Most of > the people I know in company use Windows, so if we want to attract > people this problem need to be corrected. I'd really like people who put Windows as an important platform invest on making sure what we have for Windows support in Pharo really works. Thierry

Sept. 27, 2015

Lost in Git...

by stepharo

Hi guys I'm totally lost in git/pharo support. The only thing I got is that we do not need metacello versions just baselines. We have fileTree, TreeMerge, gitFileTree + tons of git expressions. Just looking at the discussion between alex and thierry looks totally scary. Do we have one document explaining the situation clearly? Stef

Sept. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] If all Pharo projects were on GitHub...

by stepharo

Alex do you know git? Because to me git is **really** complex. I do not talk about add push commit but rebase remote.... Did you try to use sourcetree (the UI for git) to understand what I mean? So we cannot use git simply we have to propose a much nicer model on top of this assembly. Now you can systematicall save your code with monticello and automatically publish it to git. Esteban has a script for doing that. Stef > â¦ Pharo may be within the 30 most popular languages on Earth. > The 30th languages has 3,253 repository. There are 2,635 on SmalltalkHub. > > I wish we had a nice Git integration. > > Alexandre

Sept. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] If all Pharo projects were on GitHub...

by Ferlicot D. Cyril

Le 27/09/2015 12:11, Dimitris Chloupis a Ã©crit : > we have more than a nice Git integration. I have been using Github for > my pharo project for over a year now without any issue, the last few > months I have been using gitfiltree which is making it even easier. > Definitely beats the alternatives . > Hi! Did you try to use git on a big project with a team? Did you try to merge .st files ? I heard it's really annoying to merge files with meta informations on git. An other point is that git file tree will not work on Windows if we do not fix the problem of the stdio. And a lot of people out of the community use Windows, so this is not a issue we should forget. Most of the people I know in company use Windows, so if we want to attract people this problem need to be corrected. > On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 12:58 PM Alexandre Bergel > <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com <mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>> wrote: > > â¦ Pharo may be within the 30 most popular languages on Earth. > The 30th languages has 3,253 repository. There are 2,635 on > SmalltalkHub. > > I wish we had a nice Git integration. > > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > -- Cheers Cyril

Sept. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] If all Pharo projects were on GitHub...

by Dimitris Chloupis

This is the first time I read that one had to customise .gitattribute and other configurations to get git running with pharo. I have never needed to do any of those things, for me its just a matter of doing a single click, for installing gitfiletree. Then I add my git project like any other smalltalkhub project and manage it the same way via monticello. Maybe describe the exact issues you are having so others can help you out ? Frankly Pharo is far better than any other language I have used git with. What other language come with IDE included , and one that also integrates with Git out of the box without having to use the terminal ? I dont even remember doing anything the easy way in Java , Python maybe, Java ? nope. Bottom line is that each has a different experience, you say that Git integration is not nice, I say its the best experience I have every had with any other language. Obviously our experiences are like night and day . On the other hand I use the very basics of git, just git commit and git push/ pull. Maybe you have found some problems I have not. Please share, report so we can improve. On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 1:22 PM Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > I have tried several times to use Git for my project. But I do not want to > spend time on configuring .gitattribute and other configuration file. This > does not go in the right direction I believe. Why is it easier to use git > with Java than it is with Pharo? > > Alexandre > > > > On Sep 27, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > we have more than a nice Git integration. I have been using Github for > my pharo project for over a year now without any issue, the last few months > I have been using gitfiltree which is making it even easier. Definitely > beats the alternatives . > > > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 12:58 PM Alexandre Bergel < > alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > â¦ Pharo may be within the 30 most popular languages on Earth. > > The 30th languages has 3,253 repository. There are 2,635 on SmalltalkHub. > > > > I wish we had a nice Git integration. > > > > Alexandre > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

Sept. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] If all Pharo projects were on GitHub...

by philippe.back＠highoctane.be

It isn't. It is actually very easy to use git. Time for a video :-) Expect that for tomorrow. Phil Le 27 sept. 2015 12:22, "Alexandre Bergel" <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> a Ã©crit : > I have tried several times to use Git for my project. But I do not want to > spend time on configuring .gitattribute and other configuration file. This > does not go in the right direction I believe. Why is it easier to use git > with Java than it is with Pharo? > > Alexandre > > > > On Sep 27, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > we have more than a nice Git integration. I have been using Github for > my pharo project for over a year now without any issue, the last few months > I have been using gitfiltree which is making it even easier. Definitely > beats the alternatives . > > > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 12:58 PM Alexandre Bergel < > alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > â¦ Pharo may be within the 30 most popular languages on Earth. > > The 30th languages has 3,253 repository. There are 2,635 on SmalltalkHub. > > > > I wish we had a nice Git integration. > > > > Alexandre > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

Sept. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] If all Pharo projects were on GitHub...

by Alexandre Bergel

I have tried several times to use Git for my project. But I do not want to spend time on configuring .gitattribute and other configuration file. This does not go in the right direction I believe. Why is it easier to use git with Java than it is with Pharo? Alexandre > On Sep 27, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > we have more than a nice Git integration. I have been using Github for my pharo project for over a year now without any issue, the last few months I have been using gitfiltree which is making it even easier. Definitely beats the alternatives . > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 12:58 PM Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > â¦ Pharo may be within the 30 most popular languages on Earth. > The 30th languages has 3,253 repository. There are 2,635 on SmalltalkHub. > > I wish we had a nice Git integration. > > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] If all Pharo projects were on GitHub...

by Dimitris Chloupis

we have more than a nice Git integration. I have been using Github for my pharo project for over a year now without any issue, the last few months I have been using gitfiltree which is making it even easier. Definitely beats the alternatives . On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 12:58 PM Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > â¦ Pharo may be within the 30 most popular languages on Earth. > The 30th languages has 3,253 repository. There are 2,635 on SmalltalkHub. > > I wish we had a nice Git integration. > > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

Sept. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] If all Pharo projects were on GitHub...

by Volkert

+1 On 27.09.2015 11:57, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > â¦ Pharo may be within the 30 most popular languages on Earth. > The 30th languages has 3,253 repository. There are 2,635 on SmalltalkHub. > > I wish we had a nice Git integration. > > Alexandre

Sept. 27, 2015

If all Pharo projects were on GitHub...

by Alexandre Bergel

â¦ Pharo may be within the 30 most popular languages on Earth. The 30th languages has 3,253 repository. There are 2,635 on SmalltalkHub. I wish we had a nice Git integration. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 27, 2015