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Re: [Pharo-dev] clean up the bugtracker - a little bit

by stepharo

I would say it more like that: **THANK** :) Le 6/7/15 21:41, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : > Thank you! > > Doru > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de > <mailto:nicolaihess@web.de>> wrote: > > Some of this issues aren't reproducible, some may be fixed by > other changes, or just invalid (works as designed). > > I'll close this issues sooon! > > If you know one of them and don't think they should be closed, please > comment on the bugtracker > > 11332 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11332> > There are still problem with keyboard shortcuts in Windows > > dead link to original bug entry. > > 7352 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?7352> > Overlapping Shortcut: "Select All" vs. "Start of Line" > > Maybe duplicate of case15541 > <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15541> (at least for a > windows vm) > > 12241 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12241> > text highlighting incorrect > > wont fix, this textmorph will be removed > > 15445 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15445> > Rectangle>>#center not really a center > > wont fix > > 13339 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13339> > Renaming a method that is in a trait does not rename the traits method > > can not reproduce > > 12851 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12851> > Test is executed twice when failling > > wont fix > > 14050 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14050> > Smalltalk clearExternalObjects freezes the image > wontfix > > 11680 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11680> > DropListMorph accepts on ESCAPE > can not reproduce > > 12190 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12190> > Nautilus right click menus do not work on empty panes > can not reproduce > > 14976 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14976> > Adds String>>evaluate to allow evaluating of Smalltalk source > without specifying a compiler and improves GS compatibility > wontfix > > The following issues depend on other (like removing newlist, or > unify shortcuts > and may be invalid). > > 13528 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13528> > Help Browser/Monticello Browser doesn't honour Alt-Tab window > switching > close or set as parent for15546 > <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15546> > > 13882 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13882> > Under Windows the key to remove a word is not SHIFT+Backspace but > CTRL + Backspace > close or set as parent for15619 > <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15619> > > 13554 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13554> > Red cross in EyeDateAndTimeInspector > close or set as parent for15849 > <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15849> > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> > > "Every thing has its own flow"

July 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Getting the mbox file for this mailing list?

by stepharo

Alex you should ask alberto because may be he has some libraries that we could port from VW. Stef Le 6/7/15 11:50, Alexandre Bergel a Ã©crit : > Hi! > > Is there a way to get the mbox for this mailing list. This file is supposed to contains all the mails that have been sent. > I would like to try to do some mail miningâ¦ > > Cheers, > Alexandre >

July 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] clean up the bugtracker - a little bit

by Tudor Girba

Thank you! Doru On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > Some of this issues aren't reproducible, some may be fixed by > other changes, or just invalid (works as designed). > > I'll close this issues sooon! > > If you know one of them and don't think they should be closed, please > comment on the bugtracker > > 11332 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11332> > There are still problem with keyboard shortcuts in Windows > > dead link to original bug entry. > > 7352 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?7352> > Overlapping Shortcut: "Select All" vs. "Start of Line" > > Maybe duplicate of case 15541 > <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15541> (at least for a windows vm) > > 12241 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12241> > text highlighting incorrect > > wont fix, this textmorph will be removed > > 15445 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15445> > Rectangle>>#center not really a center > > wont fix > > 13339 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13339> > Renaming a method that is in a trait does not rename the traits method > > can not reproduce > > 12851 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12851> > Test is executed twice when failling > > wont fix > > 14050 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14050> > Smalltalk clearExternalObjects freezes the image > wontfix > > 11680 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11680> > DropListMorph accepts on ESCAPE > can not reproduce > > 12190 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12190> > Nautilus right click menus do not work on empty panes > can not reproduce > > 14976 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14976> > Adds String>>evaluate to allow evaluating of Smalltalk source without > specifying a compiler and improves GS compatibility > wontfix > > The following issues depend on other (like removing newlist, or unify > shortcuts > and may be invalid). > > 13528 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13528> > Help Browser/Monticello Browser doesn't honour Alt-Tab window switching > close or set as parent for 15546 > <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15546> > > 13882 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13882> > Under Windows the key to remove a word is not SHIFT+Backspace but CTRL + > Backspace > close or set as parent for 15619 > <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15619> > > 13554 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13554> > Red cross in EyeDateAndTimeInspector > close or set as parent for 15849 > <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15849> > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

July 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] some questions about current GToolkit issues

by Tudor Girba

Thanks for pinging me and for the patience. I commented on all these issues. Cheers, Doru On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > > 2015-07-04 7:58 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > >> Hi, >> >> When I said that the goal for the new inspector is Pharo 6, I meant Pharo >> 5 - at least as an alternative to the existing one. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Nicolai, >>> >>> Please >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> 15102 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15102> >>>> lost worldmenu >>>> Is anyone working on this, it is quite annoying, happens to me a couple >>>> of time - per day. >>>> Everytime I restart the image to get the menu back. Is there any other >>>> way to >>>> recreate the worldmenu? >>>> >>> >>> No, because we do not know how to reproduce it (like the message says). >>> If anyone knows how, this would help. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> 15772 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15772> >>>> spotter is undebuggable >>>> Andrei said on the ML he knows what the problem is. Are you working on >>>> this? >>>> This makes it difficult to work/analyse other spotter bugs. >>>> >>> >>> I just added a note in the issue. Please provide a step-by-step >>> situation. >>> >>> >>> >>>> 14569 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14569> >>>> GTInspector should do live updates of objects and their slots >>>> This was considered a really important issue. Who works on this, any >>>> progress? >>>> >>> >>> We have a solution in the image, but it is not scalable (the rendering >>> was just too slow), so it is disabled by default (custom presentations can >>> use it if they want). >>> >>> We are working on this in two ways: >>> - a new version of the inspector based on bloc and without glamour. This >>> will take a while to finish, but the goal is to make it until Pharo 6. >>> - as soon as we can hook on object-specific events we will use that >>> mechanism to identify the need for an update >>> >>> >>> >>>> There are some issues tagged for pharo 40. Who will take care of it? >>>> Backport the >>>> fixes or change the milestone >>>> >>> >>> As far as I am concerned, we should keep the backporting to critical >>> cases only. Right now, I see none of them as being critical. >>> >>> >>> >>>> There are some more issues (for example about the >>>> displayString/printString) waiting for >>>> some feedback and comments. >>>> >>> >>> Ok. We will try to go over them. >>> >>> >>> I wasn't happy with the way spotter & co were pushed into the 4.0 >>>> release. >>>> To many changes and new features even during code freeze. I do >>>> understand >>>> that it was important to have this in the release to get feedback. >>>> But now I wish more support, we already have too many loose ends, >>>> unfinished projects >>>> and to few people working on them. >>>> >>> >>> I do not see the relation between adding spotter and the support. >>> >>> >>> Please help, and keep up working on this or give some feedback or >>>> comment the >>>> open issues. >>>> >>> >>> This is an unfortunate period simply because it is holidays time and >>> there are other things that prevented us to work on it. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> >> > > can you please check this issues, and comment if you plan to work on it. > > > 14247 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14247> > inspector on nil > > > 14584 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14584> > GTInspector: explore only > > > 14994 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14994> > GTInspector is slow for large strings > > > If not, I 'll close it as wontfix. > > > > > >> nicolai >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Every thing has its own flow" >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

July 6, 2015

clean up the bugtracker - a little bit

by Nicolai Hess

Some of this issues aren't reproducible, some may be fixed by other changes, or just invalid (works as designed). I'll close this issues sooon! If you know one of them and don't think they should be closed, please comment on the bugtracker 11332 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11332> There are still problem with keyboard shortcuts in Windows dead link to original bug entry. 7352 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?7352> Overlapping Shortcut: "Select All" vs. "Start of Line" Maybe duplicate of case 15541 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15541> (at least for a windows vm) 12241 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12241> text highlighting incorrect wont fix, this textmorph will be removed 15445 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15445> Rectangle>>#center not really a center wont fix 13339 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13339> Renaming a method that is in a trait does not rename the traits method can not reproduce 12851 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12851> Test is executed twice when failling wont fix 14050 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14050> Smalltalk clearExternalObjects freezes the image wontfix 11680 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11680> DropListMorph accepts on ESCAPE can not reproduce 12190 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12190> Nautilus right click menus do not work on empty panes can not reproduce 14976 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14976> Adds String>>evaluate to allow evaluating of Smalltalk source without specifying a compiler and improves GS compatibility wontfix The following issues depend on other (like removing newlist, or unify shortcuts and may be invalid). 13528 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13528> Help Browser/Monticello Browser doesn't honour Alt-Tab window switching close or set as parent for 15546 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15546> 13882 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13882> Under Windows the key to remove a word is not SHIFT+Backspace but CTRL + Backspace close or set as parent for 15619 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15619> 13554 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13554> Red cross in EyeDateAndTimeInspector close or set as parent for 15849 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15849>

July 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] some questions about current GToolkit issues

by Nicolai Hess

2015-07-04 7:58 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > Hi, > > When I said that the goal for the new inspector is Pharo 6, I meant Pharo > 5 - at least as an alternative to the existing one. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > >> Hi Nicolai, >> >> Please >> >> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: >> >>> 15102 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15102> >>> lost worldmenu >>> Is anyone working on this, it is quite annoying, happens to me a couple >>> of time - per day. >>> Everytime I restart the image to get the menu back. Is there any other >>> way to >>> recreate the worldmenu? >>> >> >> No, because we do not know how to reproduce it (like the message says). >> If anyone knows how, this would help. >> >> >>> >>> 15772 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15772> >>> spotter is undebuggable >>> Andrei said on the ML he knows what the problem is. Are you working on >>> this? >>> This makes it difficult to work/analyse other spotter bugs. >>> >> >> I just added a note in the issue. Please provide a step-by-step situation. >> >> >> >>> 14569 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14569> >>> GTInspector should do live updates of objects and their slots >>> This was considered a really important issue. Who works on this, any >>> progress? >>> >> >> We have a solution in the image, but it is not scalable (the rendering >> was just too slow), so it is disabled by default (custom presentations can >> use it if they want). >> >> We are working on this in two ways: >> - a new version of the inspector based on bloc and without glamour. This >> will take a while to finish, but the goal is to make it until Pharo 6. >> - as soon as we can hook on object-specific events we will use that >> mechanism to identify the need for an update >> >> >> >>> There are some issues tagged for pharo 40. Who will take care of it? >>> Backport the >>> fixes or change the milestone >>> >> >> As far as I am concerned, we should keep the backporting to critical >> cases only. Right now, I see none of them as being critical. >> >> >> >>> There are some more issues (for example about the >>> displayString/printString) waiting for >>> some feedback and comments. >>> >> >> Ok. We will try to go over them. >> >> >> I wasn't happy with the way spotter & co were pushed into the 4.0 release. >>> To many changes and new features even during code freeze. I do understand >>> that it was important to have this in the release to get feedback. >>> But now I wish more support, we already have too many loose ends, >>> unfinished projects >>> and to few people working on them. >>> >> >> I do not see the relation between adding spotter and the support. >> >> >> Please help, and keep up working on this or give some feedback or comment >>> the >>> open issues. >>> >> >> This is an unfortunate period simply because it is holidays time and >> there are other things that prevented us to work on it. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> > can you please check this issues, and comment if you plan to work on it. 14247 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14247> inspector on nil 14584 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14584> GTInspector: explore only 14994 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14994> GTInspector is slow for large strings If not, I 'll close it as wontfix. > nicolai >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" >> > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" >

July 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Musings (Was: NAtiveBoost error)

by Igor Stasenko

Haskell fits well for those, who wants a proof instead of solution. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

July 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Control Flow Graph for Smalltalk

by Frank Shearar

Olin Shivers' k-CFA stuff also computes call flow graphs (and can infer types, and can determine when garbage can be released). A starting point might be here: http://matt.might.net/articles/implementation-of-kcfa-and-0cfa/ frank On 6 July 2015 at 14:30, Francisco Garau <francisco.garau(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Nevena > > To compute the control flow graph you would need to do concrete type inference. > > Search for Ole Agesen PhD thesis to have an idea what's that about. > > I've started a smalltalk implementation of his ideas in 2001 but never got beyond the proof of concept stage. I can forward the presentation slides later tonight. > > Cheers > - Francisco > > >> On 6 Jul 2015, at 12:21, Nevena Milojkovic <nevena(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Can anybody point me towards some tool/paper with the possibility to construct Control Flow Graph for Smalltalk? >> >> Cheers, >> Nevena >> >> ââââââââ >> Nevena Milojkovic >> Research assistant >> Software Composition Group >> Institute of Computer Science and Applied Mathematics >> University of Bern >> >> email: nevena(a)iam.unibe.ch >> office phone: +41 (0)31 511 7639 >> webpage: http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Milojkovic >> >> >> >> >> >> >

July 6, 2015

Pharo sprint & Moose dojo this Friday

by Jean-Christophe Bach

Hello Pharoers, We propose a Pharo sprint / Moose dojo this Friday, 10th July, starting at 10:00am. (Local Time Lille). It will be at the Inria Lille, Building B, third floor (RMoD offices). Remotely, you can join us on the official IRC channel #pharo on irc.freenode.net server. During the sprint, we will try to synchronize local and remote Pharo sprinters. As the building is not open to the public, please contact us before if you plan to come. JC

July 6, 2015

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

by GitHub

Branch: refs/tags/50155 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

July 6, 2015