July 2015 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

by Franck Warlouzet

No I did not. I do not know if it is really useful, we have our methods to see the effect of the formatter. Maybe it can be good to have a preview of the different settings with a link in the formatter options but in this case I have to review it because it is pretty ugly and not really user friendly. Franck Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 14:49:13 +0200 From: stepharo(a)free.fr To: pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink Franck excellent news. Did you pubish your tools to test it somewhere? The good part is also that the code formatter is optional. Stef Le 22/7/15 10:44, Franck Warlouzet a Ã©crit : Hello everyone, We just integrated Blue Ink, the new pretty printer, in the latest Pharo 5 image ! Basically what was working still is and what was not well now is. It is not yet enabled by default, we will wait for feedbacks first. If you want to try it, just type : RBProgramNode formatterClass: BIConfigurableFormatter. BIConfigurableFormatter formatAsYouReadPolicy: true Feel free to contact me via the mailing list or personnal mail if you experience a strange behavior. I tried to improve all of them but with you I am sure all the cases will be treated in an exhaustive way. Thanks for testing it, I hope it will convince you to use format as you read in Nautilus or just automatically format your code. Franck

July 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Disabling Rubric in Nautilus

by stepharo

Jan do you have a scenario where we can see the performance issue? Le 22/7/15 10:03, Jan Vrany a Ã©crit : > On Tue, 2015-07-21 at 23:38 +0200, Franck Warlouzet wrote: >> Hello Jan, >> >> On Pharo 5, I don't think so (unless you want to reload the very old >> commits from nautilus). PluggableTextMorph will be remove so we will >> not put an option to switch between Rubric or that. > Right. Is there a way to dig out an older image prior the switch? > >> What do not you like with Rubric ? > It's not that I don't like it, but in my very case it burns > my CPU. Looks like a performance problem. > > Thanks! Jan > >> Franck >> >>> From: jan.vrany(a)fit.cvut.cz >>> To: pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org >>> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 22:19:05 +0100 >>> Subject: [Pharo-dev] Disabling Rubric in Nautilus >>> >>> Hi there, >>> >>> is there a way to disable Rubric in Nautilus and get back >>> to PluggableTextMorph or whichever beast was used before? >>> Quick search in settings did not help. >>> >>> Jan >>> >

July 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

by stepharo

Franck excellent news. Did you pubish your tools to test it somewhere? The good part is also that the code formatter is optional. Stef Le 22/7/15 10:44, Franck Warlouzet a Ã©crit : > Hello everyone, > > We just integrated Blue Ink, the new pretty printer, in the latest > Pharo 5 image ! Basically what was working still is and what was not > well now is. > > It is not yet enabled by default, we will wait for feedbacks first. If > you want to try it, just type : > > RBProgramNode formatterClass: BIConfigurableFormatter. > BIConfigurableFormatter formatAsYouReadPolicy: true > > Feel free to contact me via the mailing list or personnal mail if you > experience a strange behavior. I tried to improve all of them but with > you I am sure all the cases will be treated in an exhaustive way. > > Thanks for testing it, I hope it will convince you to use format as > you read in Nautilus or just automatically format your code. > > Franck

July 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

> > stranglers > stragglers *facepalm* (but slow feedback strangles development :p)

July 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

> > Perhaps we should have a Preferences category "Technology previews." > Then when I get time later to try things it will be easier to find > than searching for half-remembered stuff on the mail archives. > cheers -ben This seems like a good idea... but often by the time I finally get around to look at it such things they are merged and used by default. People that are interested will look at it early and late stranglers may not be as valuable. Maybe something more in-your-face would work better... such as on first Pharo image opening there would be small notification in a corner saying... "We've added a new cool formatter... try it now?" and on click it would enable it/open settings. If you ignore it it will disappear in couple of seconds... This could be however annoying if you are actually not interested, because every time you download a fresh image it would bug you just like the Pharo 4.0 welcome message that I have to close every time... Peter

July 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

by Ben Coman

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Franck Warlouzet <franck.warlouzet(a)hotmail.fr> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > We just integrated Blue Ink, the new pretty printer, in the latest Pharo 5 > image ! Basically what was working still is and what was not well now is. > > It is not yet enabled by default, we will wait for feedbacks first. If you > want to try it, just type : > > RBProgramNode formatterClass: BIConfigurableFormatter. > BIConfigurableFormatter formatAsYouReadPolicy: true Perhaps we should have a Preferences category "Technology previews." Then when I get time later to try things it will be easier to find than searching for half-remembered stuff on the mail archives. cheers -ben

July 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

by Pavel Krivanek

Hi, please let me explicit know in such cases when the package structure of the image is changed (some package is added/deleted/removed). I need to update system configurations and/or minimal image generation. Cheers, -- Pavel 2015-07-22 11:10 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > Nice! > > After people have the chance to test it, we should enable it. (but not > with âformat as your readâ) and > than a little while later remove the old one. > > Marcus > > > 2015-07-22 10:44 GMT+02:00 Franck Warlouzet <franck.warlouzet(a)hotmail.fr>: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> We just integrated Blue Ink, the new pretty printer, in the latest Pharo >> 5 image ! Basically what was working still is and what was not well now is. >> >> It is not yet enabled by default, we will wait for feedbacks first. If >> you want to try it, just type : >> >> RBProgramNode formatterClass: BIConfigurableFormatter. BIConfigurableFormatter >> formatAsYouReadPolicy: true >> >> Feel free to contact me via the mailing list or personnal mail if you >> experience a strange behavior. I tried to improve all of them but with you >> I am sure all the cases will be treated in an exhaustive way. >> >> Thanks for testing it, I hope it will convince you to use format as you >> read in Nautilus or just automatically format your code. >> >> Franck >> >> >> > >

July 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

by Norbert Hartl

> Am 22.07.2015 um 11:10 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > > Nice! > > After people have the chance to test it, we should enable it. (but not with âformat as your readâ) and > than a little while later remove the old one. > +1 Norbert > Marcus > >> >> 2015-07-22 10:44 GMT+02:00 Franck Warlouzet <franck.warlouzet(a)hotmail.fr <mailto:franck.warlouzet@hotmail.fr>>: >> Hello everyone, >> >> We just integrated Blue Ink, the new pretty printer, in the latest Pharo 5 image ! Basically what was working still is and what was not well now is. >> >> It is not yet enabled by default, we will wait for feedbacks first. If you want to try it, just type : >> >> RBProgramNode formatterClass: BIConfigurableFormatter. >> BIConfigurableFormatter formatAsYouReadPolicy: true >> >> Feel free to contact me via the mailing list or personnal mail if you experience a strange behavior. I tried to improve all of them but with you I am sure all the cases will be treated in an exhaustive way. >> >> Thanks for testing it, I hope it will convince you to use format as you read in Nautilus or just automatically format your code. >> >> Franck >> >> >> >

July 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

by Marcus Denker

Nice! After people have the chance to test it, we should enable it. (but not with âformat as your readâ) and than a little while later remove the old one. Marcus > > 2015-07-22 10:44 GMT+02:00 Franck Warlouzet <franck.warlouzet(a)hotmail.fr <mailto:franck.warlouzet@hotmail.fr>>: > Hello everyone, > > We just integrated Blue Ink, the new pretty printer, in the latest Pharo 5 image ! Basically what was working still is and what was not well now is. > > It is not yet enabled by default, we will wait for feedbacks first. If you want to try it, just type : > > RBProgramNode formatterClass: BIConfigurableFormatter. > BIConfigurableFormatter formatAsYouReadPolicy: true > > Feel free to contact me via the mailing list or personnal mail if you experience a strange behavior. I tried to improve all of them but with you I am sure all the cases will be treated in an exhaustive way. > > Thanks for testing it, I hope it will convince you to use format as you read in Nautilus or just automatically format your code. > > Franck > > >

July 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

by Thomas Heniart

Great news! 2015-07-22 10:44 GMT+02:00 Franck Warlouzet <franck.warlouzet(a)hotmail.fr>: > Hello everyone, > > We just integrated Blue Ink, the new pretty printer, in the latest Pharo 5 > image ! Basically what was working still is and what was not well now is. > > It is not yet enabled by default, we will wait for feedbacks first. If you > want to try it, just type : > > RBProgramNode formatterClass: BIConfigurableFormatter. BIConfigurableFormatter > formatAsYouReadPolicy: true > > Feel free to contact me via the mailing list or personnal mail if you > experience a strange behavior. I tried to improve all of them but with you > I am sure all the cases will be treated in an exhaustive way. > > Thanks for testing it, I hope it will convince you to use format as you > read in Nautilus or just automatically format your code. > > Franck > > >

July 22, 2015