July 2015 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to get better fonts?

by stepharo

Le 27/7/15 21:03, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : > Do you by any chance have a retina MacBook? If yes, the fuzziness of > fonts is due to that. Yes but I thought that freetype would looks really better because now it is quite ugly. > > Doru > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 5:37 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr > <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote: > > Hi > > with my new glasses (yes age) I know see all the details of > characters. I tried to set some freeType fonts using settings > and I enforce FreeType but I do not succeed to get nice fonts. > Am'I doing something wrong? > > Stef > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> > > "Every thing has its own flow"

July 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] about quality assistant

by stepharo

Le 28/7/15 11:43, Alexandre Bergel a Ã©crit : > But, what does the useless button do? Does it remove from the rules quality assistant uses forever? Or is it per class? the rule "Too many methods" is useless for the class RTexample, but it is useful for other classes Alex I was confused too :) I guess that it does nothing. Just report to the server of yuriy that you think that this rule is useless. So there is a clear problem at the UI level. The user cannot disntinguish what he is doing: marking false positive or giving feedback in general. Stef > > Alexandre > > > >> Le 27 juil. 2015 Ã 12:53, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> a Ã©crit : >> >> This is sad, and shows that I completely failed with that button. Because ideally you had to press it so I can know that this rule had a useful case for somebody. >

July 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus

by stepharo

Le 28/7/15 13:30, david ronan a Ã©crit : > Hi, > > I wondering if Nautilus is a port of OmniBrowser into pharo ? No Omnibrowser was based on a framework to develop user interface. > > Because they just look the same > > Cheers, > David

July 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Subpixel rendering vm build?

by Stephan Eggermont

On 28-07-15 13:15, Nicolai Hess wrote: > 2015-07-28 11:21 GMT+02:00 Stephan Eggermont > Is there a specific reason to not have a pharo vm build with > subpixel rendering for non-US use? > > Why do you think there are different builds? Shouldn't there be? EU has higher standards for software patents, so there are no ClearType patents in EU afaik. Stephan

July 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Event handling insanity

by Sean P. DeNigris

abergel wrote > Related to this, I find very painful to write unit tests for gui. > Generating event by hand is quite tedious. Someone has worked on that > direction already? #simulateClick and friends? ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Event-handling-insanity-tp4839608p4839750.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 28, 2015

Nautilus

by david ronan

Hi, I wondering if Nautilus is a port of OmniBrowser into pharo ? Because they just look the same Cheers, David

July 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Subpixel rendering vm build?

by Nicolai Hess

2015-07-28 11:21 GMT+02:00 Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>: > Is there a specific reason to not have a pharo vm build with > subpixel rendering for non-US use? > > Stephan > > > Why do you think there are different builds?

July 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] about quality assistant

by Alexandre Bergel

But, what does the useless button do? Does it remove from the rules quality assistant uses forever? Or is it per class? the rule "Too many methods" is useless for the class RTexample, but it is useful for other classes Alexandre > Le 27 juil. 2015 Ã 12:53, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> a Ã©crit : > > This is sad, and shows that I completely failed with that button. Because ideally you had to press it so I can know that this rule had a useful case for somebody.

July 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Freezing Bloc UI

by Alexandre Bergel

Thanks for looking at this. This is highly important. Alexandre > Le 27 juil. 2015 Ã 19:55, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> a Ã©crit : > > > > 2015-07-28 0:17 GMT+02:00 Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com>: >> Sorry it felt under radar... >> >> yes, this does work! >> >> however I managed to encounter two more bugs along the way >> >> Pharo space: everything is underlined/bold as expected > > Yes, I know this one. It is because there are different ways how textemphasis is handled. > In a text teditor for example, we use the full Text object. And in a list view it is only the > first character/text that defines the emphasis for the whole text line. I ported only the first one yet for athens. > > >> <2015-07-28_00:03:48.png> >> >> Bloc space: no styling (this is same behavior both before and after loading Free Type) >> <2015-07-28_00:04:02.png> >> ââ >> >> And second thing (that may not be so obvious from the screenshot) is jaggedness of the font in Bloc (that's why I was messing with fonts in the first place). > > Yes, small fonts look ugly with athens/cairo font rendering. This looks a little bit better if we enable/change the subpixel filter for FT and cairo (there is a bug > report at fogbugz, but I don't know if we will do this ever or if it is possible at all. > >> >> I suspected that Font Hinting (Settings > Appearance > Use Free Type ... > Advanced Features > Hinting) was incorrectly configured, >> however when I tried to change it it had no effect. > > This settings only control the options for the FreeTypePlugin used in Morphic. Athens/Cairo uses a different way for rending (cairo uses freetype too, but > the "normal" pharo freetypeplugin and cairo are using freetype differently ). > But you can control Cairos font options too (Look at class CairoFontOptions). > >> >> So my conclusion that fonts are not yet fully implemented or something else is missing? Or is my system/configuration wrong? (The image is Bloc build #609 from pharo-contribution). >> I actually have the very same problem in text rendered in Roassal (Athens canvas), so I blame Athens. Is there a solution for this? > > Yes, this is all about athens resp. athens cairo backend. > >> >> Thanks, >> Peter >> >>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: >>> >>> >>> 2015-07-05 17:33 GMT+02:00 Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de>: >>>> >>>> >>>> 2015-07-05 12:16 GMT+02:00 Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com>: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> when reloading FreeType (Settings > Use free type:) >>>> >>>> This is an Athens issues. Athens only "officially" supports vector fonts. >>>> Drawing with bitmap fonts is a hack (and that happens during disable/enable freetype). >>>> >>>> fixed in athens repository: >>>> >>>> Name: Athens-Cairo-NicolaiHess.89 >>>> Author: NicolaiHess >>>> Time: 5 July 2015, 5:31:21.319671 pm >>>> UUID: f2a202d8-67fb-984c-a75a-21820d8fa9d4 >>>> Ancestors: Athens-Cairo-Nicolaihess.88 >>>> convert text string to utf8 converted buffer for >>>> cairos cairo_show_text method >>> >>> @peter >>> Did you try it, does it work for you ? >

July 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Event handling insanity

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! Related to this, I find very painful to write unit tests for gui. Generating event by hand is quite tedious. Someone has worked on that direction already? Cheers Alexandre > Le 27 juil. 2015 Ã 10:42, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > > Nothing here is about things to fix, > but rather about how impossible to debug event handling in system that runs and relies on very same events.. > I had very annoying problem with mouse move handling and processing it correctly, and i finally solved the problem after number of attempts to track down where problem lies in.. > > So, here is small list of problems i faced: > > - broken image (image won't start up) , because i send unimplemented message in critical place, thus image simply non-responsible/crashing immediately after startup. Easy to fix (sarcasm) > > - debugger window spam on every event (because of DNU/other exception). > A slightly friendlier problem than above :) > > - and last one, if you break some event handling/delivery, even if image "behaves" you simply left without events doing what is needed, means you got another form of a broken image, which you cannot use anymore and need to start over and revert the changes you made. > > - veeeerrrrryyy slow event handling, because of printing every event into transcript , trying to see where the shit lies. > > - decrypting kilometers long event traces to see what goes where > > But when things finally start work properly, you feel excited :) > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko.

July 28, 2015