May 2015 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Screencast By a Ruby Guy

by Tudor Girba

I think he did a marvelous job for a newcomer. Doru On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > > On 11 May 2015, at 23:49, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> > wrote: > > > > > http://devblog.avdi.org/2015/05/11/in-which-i-make-you-hate-ruby-in-7-minut… > > Not a perfect demo (he could have run the tests from within the browser), > but nice to see how (some) outsiders think about Pharo > > > ----- > > Cheers, > > Sean > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Screencast-By-a-Ruby-Guy-tp4825891.html > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

May 12, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Screencast By a Ruby Guy

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 11 May 2015, at 23:49, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > > http://devblog.avdi.org/2015/05/11/in-which-i-make-you-hate-ruby-in-7-minut… Not a perfect demo (he could have run the tests from within the browser), but nice to see how (some) outsiders think about Pharo > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Screencast-By-a-Ruby-Guy-tp4825891.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

May 12, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Package comments

by Christophe Demarey

Le 12 mai 2015 Ã 06:44, Kasper Osterbye a Ã©crit : > stepharo wrote >>> one line description: For example, I'm xxx package, containing the >>> hierarchy >>> of visitor objects. >> What are the public main classes? > > There are no such thing :-) - just as there is no "private methods" in > smalltalk. > But in conceptually, in a package there are classes which are intended to be > used and referred from outside of the package, and classes that realize > internals in the package. Here I would rather see the entry point of the package: the core class(es) and how to use it

May 12, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Package comments

by Kasper Osterbye

On 12 maj, 2015, at 11:17 , demarey [via Smalltalk] <ml-node+s1294792n4825947h65(a)n4.nabble.com<mailto:ml-node+s1294792n4825947h65@n4.nabble.com>> wrote: Here I would rather see the entry point of the package: the core class(es) and how to use it Great - I like the term âEntry pointâ - just what we were looking for. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Package-comments-tp4824353p4825948.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 12, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Loading Pillar in 4.0

by Cyril Ferlicot

Hi, i'll correct that un the next version of pillar! Thank you. Le mardi 12 mai 2015, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> a Ã©crit : > Loading from the Configuration Browser gives: > > This package depends on the following classes: > PRWarning > You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these > definitions: > PRParameterWarning > > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Loading-Pillar-in-4-0-tp4825915.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > -- Cheers Cyril Ferlicot

May 12, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Package comments

by Kasper Osterbye

stepharo wrote >> !Package XXX, part of (reference to main package if one exist) > I did not get " > > (reference to main package if one exist) > > " Perhaps it should be: "!Package XXX, (part of reference to main package if one exist)" I often see a handful of packages named "XXXX-YYYY", "XXXX-ZZZZ", "XXXX-AAAA", etc. and a reference to which of these packages is the main/root/start/core package is what I tried to get at. stepharo wrote >> one line description: For example, I'm xxx package, containing the >> hierarchy >> of visitor objects. > What are the public main classes? There are no such thing :-) - just as there is no "private methods" in smalltalk. But in conceptually, in a package there are classes which are intended to be used and referred from outside of the package, and classes that realize internals in the package. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Package-comments-tp4824353p4825917.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 12, 2015

Loading Pillar in 4.0

by Sean P. DeNigris

Loading from the Configuration Browser gives: This package depends on the following classes: PRWarning You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: PRParameterWarning ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Loading-Pillar-in-4-0-tp4825915.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 12, 2015

Pharo Catalog Job and 4.0

by Sean P. DeNigris

It seems that https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoProjectCatalog loads the latest Pier-Catalog from http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/DamienCassou/Pier-Gutemberg/main A couple of questions: - It seems like the latest CatalogBuilder>>#buildMapForRepository does not check Pharo 4.0 or 5.0. Should this be updated (at least for 4.0)? - Why isn't this code under the Pier team on StHub? It looks like a lot of infrastructure pieces are coming together quite nicely :) ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Catalog-Job-and-4-0-tp4825914.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 12, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

by David T. Lewis

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 11:52:37PM +0200, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 11 May 2015 at 22:54, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Speaking about penetrating multiple layers.. Lemme tell you the story: > > > > One day, a brave hero (let's call him Stef :) ) decided to save the > > world... err improve Transcript and make it thread-safe. > > And everything vent well until he stumbled upon #endEntry logic, because > > he was unable to figure out how it is handled and where it is handled.. > > He asked me for help and we sat together and looked for what can be done.. > > After many months and fierce battles (longer that any developer would > > except), we finally discovered that #endEntry logic is handled .. > > (drumroll...) in TextMorph, > > as a separate case in case-statement in its #changed: method. > > > > Sure it was a long ago, and my memory could fail me, i might be completely > > wrong on some details, and maybe instead we were drinking ale with fairies > > in the pub, and there was no any fights. But that's what is fairy tale for > > :) > > > > > I keep coming to this, so you guys can understand what is it.. > There's a fairy tale in our culture where hero needs to kill an Immortal > King, > and he asked for advice from old which that told him how to do it: > - there's a Mammoth, inside it a wolf, and inside wolf a rabbit, and > inside rabbit - a duck, and inside duck, an egg, and inside egg a needle, > and once you break the needle, so the Immortal King will be dead.. > So, to recap, in order to kill an Immortal King, one must kill mammoth, > wolf, rabbit, duck, break an egg and here we are.. job done! > Now what is good and cool for fairy tale, not that cool and and suitable > for daily programming tasks.. If one needs to break a needle - there should > be a way to do just that, without need to peruse through piles of dead > animal victims to achieve the goal. > Thanks for sharing the fairy tale :-)

May 11, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Lighthouse example throw segfault

by Alejandro Infante

Lighthouse is an example about how to create a web application with seaside and good practices. I have no idea why it uses fullscreen, maybe there is something Iâm missing. Well, the example is really cool and it had helped me to understand some stuff. Thank you Torsten for the app!! Cheers, Alejandro > On May 11, 2015, at 7:18 PM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > I don't know what lighthouse is about, but at least on windows, it does not segfault. > But we have at least two issues of fogbugz about fullscreen on a mac: > > 12648 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12648> > Full screen on Mac OS X 10.9 partially broken > > 13995 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13995> > Recent Windows VM does not reopen fullscreen images in fullscreen (broken between 246 and 248 VM) > This is about windows and was fixed, but in another issue, marked as duplicate of this issue: > 15217 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15217> > > > Ben commented, that this is still an issue for mac, because the image crashes (see last comment https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15217#BugEvent.123867 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15217#BugEvent.123867>) > > > cheers > nicolai > > > 2015-05-11 22:32 GMT+02:00 Alejandro Infante <alejandroinfante91(a)gmail.com <mailto:alejandroinfante91@gmail.com>>: > > > On May 11, 2015, at 4:43 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote: > > > > Hi alejandro > > > > which image? > â For the already built image, I used the version of May 9th (Build #467) and is based on Pharo 3 > â For the one that I loaded the stable code using the last ConfigurationOf (commit number 13) on a Pharo4.0 image (#40611) > > which version? > Guess this is answered up there. > > which latest vm? > Iâm not sure how to get this, sending --version or --help do not work. Even though, comparing the creation date of the file of the VM, I guess that is PharoVM 421.zip from the fileserver. > > > > do you see a pattern :) > 5 minutes ago I tried to using a different vm. Using the PharoS VM (206.zip from the pharo fileserver) I wasnât able to reproduce the error. > > > > Stef > > > > Le 11/5/15 20:37, Alejandro Infante a Ã©crit : > >> Hello, > >> > >> When I try to open the image from Jenkins the screen goes black for 5 seconds and then it throws a segmentation fault in my Mac. I use a Macbook air with the latest stable Pharo VM. > >> > >> Using the ConfigurationOf I have found that Lighthouse by default set the display to work in fullscreen, and is perfectly usable, but when saving the image it is impossible to open it again (segfault). I attached the crash.dmp. > >> > >> If I try to disable the fullscreen before saving it, the error does not appear again. > >> > >> Iâm the only one capable to reproduce this? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Alejandro > >> > > > > > > Cheers, > Alejandro > > >

May 11, 2015