April 2015 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] why we removed debugTest from nautilus?

by Francisco Ortiz PeÃ±aloza

Hi, i'm really missing the debug feature in nautilus. +1 to restore it! But it's worse than what others describe, lets say you write a tests that fails, i've to press ALT + "." to've the UI back and the dialog window that offers you to proceed, abandon, debug, etc. It hangs on this collaboration of PackageTreeNautilusUI#runTestForAMethod:notifying:priority: testSemaphoreForMethod wait. I also tried to send #haltOnce or #halt into the test and it doesn't work on a test. It stops only when i press ALT + "." Cheers, Francisco On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > I think break points were done by Clara Allende. As far as I know, they > work but there's no IDE support for them. I think they are not ready for > this release but I am not sure about the status. Marcus can confirm it will > not be ready. > > For this release the intention was reviewing and integrating the > Reflectivity machinery, and then afterwards the breakpoints. > So far Marcus has done a lot on that part (reviewing and enhancing my > prototype for reflectivity), and we have discussed that the breakpoints (in > the state I've left them at the end of my internship) should work out of > the box. Nevertheless, I want to do a pass on them and update what's > necessary once Pharo4 is released. > > But they won't be integrated in the release, that's for sure, because > there's work to do with them... > > The problem is that it needs compiler changes that will not be done for > Pharo4. Maybe we can back port, but the priority for me is not Pharo4 for > this. > > Marcus > >

April 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Little fix to MC merge facility

by Jan Vrany

On Mon, 2015-04-20 at 20:36 +0300, stepharo wrote: > Jan > > what is your fix? to show the end of line differently? No, I changed MCMethodDefinition>>= to be more relaxed about sources and treat two sources that differ only in leading/trailing spaces as "same". This way, these methods do not occur in merge tool at all. This is just a quick fix - much better would be to compare AST's and treat whitespace-changes specially (i.e., provide a filter to show/hide whitespace-only-changes). > Do you think that we should integrate it? Yes. > Stef > > Le 20/4/15 12:36, Jan Vrany a Ã©crit : > > Hi, > > > > I just wanted to merge some code in Monticello and the merge tool > > marked all methods as conflict because their source differ in trailing > > whitespace (newline). The diff panel on the right does not show any > > difference. > > > > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~JanVrany/Misc/versions/Monticello-Fixes-JanVran… > > > > Here's a fix for this particular problem in case somebody runs into the > > same problem. > > > > Best, Jan > > > > > > > >

April 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher and Pharo 5.0

by Nicolai Hess

2015-04-18 22:13 GMT+02:00 Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de>: > > > 2015-04-18 22:08 GMT+02:00 Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de>: > >> >> >> 2015-04-18 6:45 GMT+02:00 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)inria.fr>: >> >>> >>> Jan BlizniÄenko <bliznjan(a)fit.cvut.cz> writes: >>> >>> > In settings, there used to be option to switch off categories of image >>> > sources/templates, like hide Pharo 2 category, but this option seems >>> to be >>> > missing now. >>> >>> >>> yes, I removed it because it was too costly to maintain. >>> >>> >>> > And one more thing ... GUI has some weird colors (well, I think it is >>> > actually missing colors). Screenshot: >>> > https://monosnap.com/file/Fs6rfZTlstzqkKzyReRnPUVa28FVZe.png >>> > However, this one is not today's change, because this morning I tried >>> > updating launcher (to find out whether it supports Pharo 5 :) ) and >>> colors >>> > were already like this. >>> >>> >>> I confirm and I don't know why. >>> >> >> This changed in pharo 40.004. Setting the rowcolor in the TreeMorph >> created by the MorphTreeModel >> was removed (by estaban (?)), I think this was because it is bad to have >> these values hard coded in >> the model (doesn't look nice with the dark theme :) ) >> >> The now problem is, spec tree model does not expose (or use) the api for >> setting this attributes. >> I uploaded a workaround fix to set this property when the widget is built >> (bypassing spec). >> (PharoLauncher-Spec-NicolaiHess.41) >> >> nicolai >> >> > Well, this was only one half of the problem. Somehow the other backgrounds > (desktop/panel) are > white instead of gray... > Ah, now I found the second change, that is responsible for this white-in-white launcher display: WorldModel>>#setUpWorld has changed. It now uses the default theme background color instead of hard coded value. So, what is next ? Currently it looks pretty ugly. But we should not reintroduce these hard coded values. On the other hand, opening a spec app in fullscreen (like pharo launcher) should be possible and have some nice (theme dependend) looking color. (The reason why the app is white in full screen and gray without, is because a fullscreen spec model just uses a *transparent* PanelMorph as Top-level Morph (instead of a SystemWindow). > > > >> >> >> >> >>> >>> -- >>> Damien Cassou >>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >>> >>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without >>> losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill >>> >>> >> >

April 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] ArchLinux pharo-vm / pharo-launcher packages

by Laurent

Le lun. 20 avril 2015 Ã 13:55, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)inria.fr> a Ã©crit : > > Laurent <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> Yep, I'm not member of github group "pharo-project", it would be >> nicer >> to have a pharo-arch project (like >> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-ubuntu ) to host these files. >> Feel free to create it and give me access I will use this new >> project >> as main repo. > > what is your github login? lolgzs https://github.com/lolgzs Laurent > > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill >

April 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] ArchLinux pharo-vm / pharo-launcher packages

by Laurent

Fixed. Laurent Le lun. 20 avril 2015 Ã 14:25, Markus Schlager <m.slg(a)gmx.de> a Ã©crit : > Hi Laurent, > > There's again a 404 file not found with > PharoLauncher-user-stable-2015.04.18.zip. > > Markus > > ------------------------------------------------ > > ==> Erstelle Paket: pharo-launcher 4.0-1 (Mo 20. Apr 14:19:39 CEST > 2015) > ==> PrÃ¼fe Laufzeit-AbhÃ¤ngigkeiten... > ==> PrÃ¼fe Buildtime-AbhÃ¤ngigkeiten... > ==> Empfange Quellen... > -> Lade icon-lighthouse-128x128.png herunter... > % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time > Time Current > Dload Upload Total Spent > Left Speed > 100 8219 100 8219 0 0 32276 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- > --:--:-- 32231 > -> Lade PharoLauncher-user-stable-2015.04.18.zip herunter... > % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time > Time Current > Dload Upload Total Spent > Left Speed > 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- > --:--:-- 0curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 404 Not Found > ==> FEHLER: Fehler beim Download von > PharoLauncher-user-stable-2015.04.18.zip > Breche ab...

April 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Download instructions (esp. for GNU/Linux)

by phil＠highoctane.be

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > philippeback wrote > > Hair splitting comment: CentOS, not Centos. > > Fixed. > > > philippeback wrote > > BTW, CentOS means also RHEL and Oracle Linux. > > I wasn't sure if linked libs would be guaranteed to be compatible/in the > same location so I erred on the conservative side, but if you're sure > they'll work, I could change it to "RedHat and derivatives" or whatever the > proper term is. > > RHEL 6 is the proper term. CentOS 6 is built from the same sources, only the graphical assets are changed. > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/New-Download-instructions-esp-for-GNU-Linux-tp4820692… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > >

April 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Seaside One Click Experience on Pharo 4?

by Dmitri Zagidulin

Thanks, Torsten. I will definitely include those instructions in whatever documentation I can get my hands on. But that's *in addition* to advocating that we update our Seaside One-Click experience image. (For the reasons that I outline earlier in this thread, namely that the vast majority of existing docs (books, sites, blog posts) point new users to the One-Click images.) On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Hi Dmitri, > > not directly a one-click but in Pharo 4.0 you can load on your own: > > - open World menu -> "Tools" -> "Configuration Browser" > - load Seaside directly (which as of today is Seaside 3.1.4) > > After loading you can use "Tools" -> "Seaside control panel" to add an > adaptor > (see attached screenshot) and then browse Seaside on the defined port like > http://localhost:8080 > > > If you like you can also load "Bootstrap" framework directly from the > config browser > - which is a wrapper for twitter bootstrap (see > http://pharo.pharocloud.com/bootstrap) > > There is also work going on for a Seaside 3.2. Dont know about the > timeline. > Ideally you should ask on the seaside-dev list: > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/seaside-dev > > Bye > T. > > > > Gesendet: Montag, 20. April 2015 um 20:45 Uhr > Von: "Dmitri Zagidulin" <dmitri(a)zagidulin.net> > An: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] Seaside One Click Experience on Pharo 4? > > (Just wanting to make sure this issue doesn't get lost in the general 4.0 > release activity and celebration). > > What's a good place to open an issue, as a reminder/to-do item to create a > Seaside+Pharo4 one-click image? The general Pharo fogbugz? > > Or, who would be the people to talk to? (Sean? :) ) > > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 3:10 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > It should not be that complex: > putting the vm in the folder and the pharo 40 image + sources files. > > Stef > > Le 10/4/15 19:51, Dmitri Zagidulin a Ã©crit : > > Are there any plans to update the old Seaside One Click Experience for > Pharo 4.0 (and the latest stable Seaside)? > > And if not, what would be the level of effort required? (And/or, who would > be the people to talk to, to set it up?) > > The reason I ask is, users new to web development on Pharo overwhelmingly > get recommended to use the One Click images. > > - on > http://www.seaside.st/download/pharo[http://www.seaside.st/download/pharo] - > "The Seaside One-Click Experience is the easiest way to get started with > Seaside." Uses Pharo 1.4, I believe. > > - Learning Web Development with Seaside 3 ( > http://seaside.gemtalksystems.com/tutorial/chapter01.pdf[http://seaside.gem… ) > also points to the Pharo download link above. Same deal, 1.4. > > - Dynamic Web Development with Seaside ( > http://book.seaside.st/book[http://book.seaside.st/book] ) also points to > the One-Click. > > - Countless blog posts / tutorials link to it. > > - And, finally, Updated Pharo By Example (the Seaside chapter), also > recommends the One Click image. > > Given how much work the community has done since Pharo 1.4, would it not > make sense to update the integrated images? >

April 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Download instructions (esp. for GNU/Linux)

by Sean P. DeNigris

philippeback wrote > Hair splitting comment: CentOS, not Centos. Fixed. philippeback wrote > BTW, CentOS means also RHEL and Oracle Linux. I wasn't sure if linked libs would be guaranteed to be compatible/in the same location so I erred on the conservative side, but if you're sure they'll work, I could change it to "RedHat and derivatives" or whatever the proper term is. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/New-Download-instructions-esp-for-GNU-Linux-tp4820692… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Seaside One Click Experience on Pharo 4?

by Torsten Bergmann

Hi Dmitri, not directly a one-click but in Pharo 4.0 you can load on your own: - open World menu -> "Tools" -> "Configuration Browser" - load Seaside directly (which as of today is Seaside 3.1.4) After loading you can use "Tools" -> "Seaside control panel" to add an adaptor (see attached screenshot) and then browse Seaside on the defined port like http://localhost:8080 If you like you can also load "Bootstrap" framework directly from the config browser - which is a wrapper for twitter bootstrap (see http://pharo.pharocloud.com/bootstrap) There is also work going on for a Seaside 3.2. Dont know about the timeline. Ideally you should ask on the seaside-dev list: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/seaside-dev Bye T. Â Â Gesendet:Â Montag, 20. April 2015 um 20:45 Uhr Von:Â "Dmitri Zagidulin" <dmitri(a)zagidulin.net> An:Â "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> Betreff:Â Re: [Pharo-dev] Seaside One Click Experience on Pharo 4? (Just wanting to make sure this issue doesn't get lost in the general 4.0 release activity and celebration). Â What's a good place to open an issue, as a reminder/to-do item to create a Seaside+Pharo4 one-click image? The general Pharo fogbugz? Â Or, who would be the people to talk to? (Sean? :) ) Â Â On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 3:10 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: It should not be that complex: Â Â Â putting the vm in the folder and the pharo 40 image + sources files. Stef Â Le 10/4/15 19:51, Dmitri Zagidulin a Ã©critÂ : Are there any plans to update the old Seaside One Click Experience for Pharo 4.0 (and the latest stable Seaside)?Â Â And if not, what would be the level of effort required? (And/or, who would be the people to talk to, to set it up?) Â The reason I ask is, users new to web development on Pharo overwhelmingly get recommended to use the One Click images. Â - onÂ http://www.seaside.st/download/pharo[http://www.seaside.st/download/pharo]Â - "The Seaside One-Click Experience is the easiest way to get started with Seaside." Â Uses Pharo 1.4, I believe. Â - Learning Web Development with Seaside 3 (http://seaside.gemtalksystems.com/tutorial/chapter01.pdf[http://seaside.gem… ) also points to the Pharo download link above. Same deal, 1.4. Â - Dynamic Web Development with Seaside (http://book.seaside.st/book[http://book.seaside.st/book]Â ) also points to the One-Click. Â - Countless blog posts / tutorials link to it. Â - And, finally, Updated Pharo By Example (the Seaside chapter), also recommends the One Click image. Â Given how much work the community has done since Pharo 1.4, would it not make sense to update the integrated images?

April 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Download instructions (esp. for GNU/Linux)

by phil＠highoctane.be

Nice! Hair splitting comment: CentOS, not Centos. BTW, CentOS means also RHEL and Oracle Linux. I've tested on version 6, so I do not know about CentOS 7. Phil On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > We revamped the download instructions to incorporate the new VM builds and > platform all-in-ones. The biggest improvement was that GNU/Linux now has > its > own instruction page laying out the various options and gotchas. Of course > we should continue to improve, but IMHO we have addressed the most > persistent gotchas. > > Check out the pages: http://pharo.org/download and > http://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation (which is linked from the first) > > Next up: we'd like to use the OpenBuildService to build from sources for > all > supported GNU/Linux configurations. Help is welcome! > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/New-Download-instructions-esp-for-GNU-Linux-tp4820692… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > >

April 20, 2015