March 2015 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] latest GTools settings

by Andrei Chis

Hi, Thanks for integrating :) If settings are just in the Settings Browser very few people will go there and enable them. (Even if I use Pharo a lot I'm still not aware of most settings that I can set in the Settings Browser) Also always showing pop-ups to tell you that you can share enable sending of usage data is kind of annoying. Adding a settings button in the toolbar of spotter seemed like a good compromised. Agree/disagree? :) Cheers, Andrei On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 09 Mar 2015, at 17:13, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > We want to add them to the settings window as well. > > > is the âas wellâ part what does not convinces me: it goes *just* in the > settings window, I think :P > > > > Doru > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Soâ¦ I integrated latest GTools. >> I did it, but I disagree with the relevance the settings of GSpotter have >> nowâ¦ I understand you want to collect usage, etcâ¦ but settings should be in >> settings panel, not âalways on sightâ. >> >> cheers, >> Esteban >> > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > >

March 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Canonical ConfigurationOfGitFileTree

by Thierry Goubier

Le 09/03/2015 02:38, Sean P. DeNigris a Ã©crit : > > just let me take care of this one > Great, thanks! Done. First time I've made a configuration dependent on a group of a baseline in a git branch of a github project. Takes as long to explain as it is to code it :) Thierry

March 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] latest GTools settings

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 09 Mar 2015, at 17:13, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > We want to add them to the settings window as well. is the âas wellâ part what does not convinces me: it goes *just* in the settings window, I think :P > > Doru > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi, > > Soâ¦ I integrated latest GTools. > I did it, but I disagree with the relevance the settings of GSpotter have nowâ¦ I understand you want to collect usage, etcâ¦ but settings should be in settings panel, not âalways on sightâ. > > cheers, > Esteban > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> > > "Every thing has its own flow"

March 9, 2015

PLEASE DO NOT COMMIT NEW FEATURES

by Esteban Lorenzano

(every year same fightâ¦) Please, please, pleaseâ¦ just bugfixes. Otherwise we will never release. Esteban

March 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT is So Cool!!

by Tudor Girba

Not sure, but let's try to work on that. How long do you plan for demoing GT? Doru On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am giving a presentation in front of Inria engineers at the end of the > month. Do you think your package could be ready at this time? > On Mar 8, 2015 7:27 AM, "Tudor Girba" <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > >> Hi Stef, >> >> Indeed, I would like to invest in a little package that people can use to >> demo GT and Pharo in general. I will get back to you on this topic :) >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 1:08 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >> >>> Doru >>> >>> do you have a scenario that I can replay to show GT, right now I failed >>> to do a sexy presentation and show the point >>> and this is something I want to be able to do. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> Le 7/3/15 10:59, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : >>> >>> Hi Sean, >>> >>> Thanks for the kind words. >>> >>> I am happy these tools raise excitement. The funny thing is that it is >>> hard to convey the interestingness of GT in static pictures. Most often >>> excitement comes from looks. Yet, take yours for example: there is >>> absolutely nothing exciting about a couple of lists. But, when you start to >>> use contextual details during inspection and extend the tools exactly at >>> the point when the need occurs, the game changes radically. >>> >>> Everyone spends these long hours digging through systems. Yet, most >>> people don't like this at all (if you do not believe me, when was the last >>> time you heard someone bragging about the last debugging session?). I think >>> the reason is that until now, the experience was terrible. Digging through >>> systems has to become a beautiful experience. We owe this to our future >>> self and to the next generations. >>> >>> The current GT is a step (ok, maybe two :)) forward, but there is lots >>> to do in this direction. And I think this is one area in which Pharo can >>> thrive and be radically different. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Sean P. DeNigris wrote >>>> > the right shows the lines of OCRed text >>>> >>>> And (of course!), the line objects have their own custom view so you can >>>> dive in and break them down to the words they contain (as determined >>>> separately by Tesseract). >>>> >>>> <http://forum.world.st/file/n4810055/Screenshot_2015-03-06_11.png> >>>> >>>> This feels revolutionary. All the countless hours I've wasted digging >>>> through C/C++ watch lists, Smalltalk inspectors, Ruby stdouts, etc are >>>> flashing before my eyes... what will I do with all the time I save?! ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Cheers, >>>> Sean >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: >>>> http://forum.world.st/GT-is-So-Cool-tp4810054p4810055.html >>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at >>>> Nabble.com. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Every thing has its own flow" >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" >> > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

March 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] latest GTools settings

by Tudor Girba

We want to add them to the settings window as well. Doru On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Soâ¦ I integrated latest GTools. > I did it, but I disagree with the relevance the settings of GSpotter have > nowâ¦ I understand you want to collect usage, etcâ¦ but settings should be in > settings panel, not âalways on sightâ. > > cheers, > Esteban > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

March 9, 2015

latest GTools settings

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, Soâ¦ I integrated latest GTools. I did it, but I disagree with the relevance the settings of GSpotter have nowâ¦ I understand you want to collect usage, etcâ¦ but settings should be in settings panel, not âalways on sightâ. cheers, Esteban

March 9, 2015

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/40544 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

March 9, 2015

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 7fa960: 40544

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March 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT is So Cool!!

by Damien Cassou

I am giving a presentation in front of Inria engineers at the end of the month. Do you think your package could be ready at this time? On Mar 8, 2015 7:27 AM, "Tudor Girba" <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi Stef, > > Indeed, I would like to invest in a little package that people can use to > demo GT and Pharo in general. I will get back to you on this topic :) > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 1:08 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> Doru >> >> do you have a scenario that I can replay to show GT, right now I failed >> to do a sexy presentation and show the point >> and this is something I want to be able to do. >> >> Stef >> >> Le 7/3/15 10:59, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : >> >> Hi Sean, >> >> Thanks for the kind words. >> >> I am happy these tools raise excitement. The funny thing is that it is >> hard to convey the interestingness of GT in static pictures. Most often >> excitement comes from looks. Yet, take yours for example: there is >> absolutely nothing exciting about a couple of lists. But, when you start to >> use contextual details during inspection and extend the tools exactly at >> the point when the need occurs, the game changes radically. >> >> Everyone spends these long hours digging through systems. Yet, most >> people don't like this at all (if you do not believe me, when was the last >> time you heard someone bragging about the last debugging session?). I think >> the reason is that until now, the experience was terrible. Digging through >> systems has to become a beautiful experience. We owe this to our future >> self and to the next generations. >> >> The current GT is a step (ok, maybe two :)) forward, but there is lots >> to do in this direction. And I think this is one area in which Pharo can >> thrive and be radically different. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Sean P. DeNigris wrote >>> > the right shows the lines of OCRed text >>> >>> And (of course!), the line objects have their own custom view so you can >>> dive in and break them down to the words they contain (as determined >>> separately by Tesseract). >>> >>> <http://forum.world.st/file/n4810055/Screenshot_2015-03-06_11.png> >>> >>> This feels revolutionary. All the countless hours I've wasted digging >>> through C/C++ watch lists, Smalltalk inspectors, Ruby stdouts, etc are >>> flashing before my eyes... what will I do with all the time I save?! ;) >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Cheers, >>> Sean >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://forum.world.st/GT-is-So-Cool-tp4810054p4810055.html >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at >>> Nabble.com. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" >> >> >> > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" >

March 9, 2015