March 2015 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Show Stopper Issue 15127 Pharo-4.0-Issue-Tracker-Image ci job is red

by stepharo

Then you postpone it to Pharo 5.0 We postponed a lot of changes recently more than people could think of :) Stef Le 18/3/15 13:40, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : > Esteban, > > You are not addressing the right issue. The settings are already made > to use the Settings framework: > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15104/Spotter-settings-should-also-appear… > > What Andrei mentioned is that in the way saving Settings for the whole > computer is implemented now is quite unusable. > > Anyway, the current issue is that we would like to store a unique id > to identify the computer. This is not a setting. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Esteban Lorenzano > <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: > > another thing: we are 14 days from release. > if you cannot provide a version that actually works without > generating undesirable effects, then the right solution is to > disable that functionality and wait for Pharo 5 to add it (with > enough time to do it properly). > > do not get me wrong: I *do want* everything in image and working, > but well, with the stress of the latests daysâ¦ We need to be > prepared to take some drastic things (we already delayed some > important thingsâ¦ we can delay others) > > Esteban > >> On 18 Mar 2015, at 13:22, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> honestly, what misses completely the point is the idea of reading >> and saving your preferences each time the image is open. >> this is not java, we do not have a stateless environmentâ¦ once >> you have it in the image and your image is save, there is no >> point on save/restore outside (which is what you are doing with >> that hand-made settings stuff). >> >> this: >> >> startUp: resuming >> "We reset image preferences, because this is likely >> a newly downloaded image or different user >> and he/she should agree about sending data." >> self preferences exists ifFalse: [ self reset ]. >> self loadPreferences. >> >> loads your preferences (ideally always the same) each time you >> save the image (not just each time you open it, which is already >> BAD, but each time you do a save). >> >> Iâm still waiting for a quick replacement, because it is braking >> a lot of things for me: the CI building, the spur building, etc. >> >> cheers, >> Esteban >> >> >>> On 18 Mar 2015, at 11:45, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com >>> <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The show stopper is due to the fact that we would like to store >>> a unique id for the computer to be able to track the data (kind >>> of a cookie). This is what is being written on the file system >>> (however, no information is being sent without the explicit >>> consent). >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Andrei Chis >>> <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com <mailto:chisvasileandrei@gmail.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> The current version from the moose repo uses the settings >>> browser. >>> However, with the current mechanism for exporting setting >>> people using Moose and Pharo images will not be able to >>> export their sendUsageData setting. >>> That mechanism is really broken >>> (http://forum.world.st/Exporting-Setting-preferences-tc4812327.html) >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Andrei >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Esteban Lorenzano >>> <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> yeah, real solution is to remove >>> GTSpotterEventRecorderSettings and use the Settings >>> framework. >>> AFAIK, guys in GTools team are already working on it :) >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>>> On 18 Mar 2015, at 03:20, Ben Coman >>>> <btc(a)openInWorld.com <mailto:btc@openInWorld.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Nicolai. I tried your suggestion but running the >>>> CI tests then crashes the VM. I'll gather more info. >>>> cheers -ben >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:12 AM, Nicolai Hess >>>> <nicolaihess(a)web.de <mailto:nicolaihess@web.de>> wrote: >>>> >>>> 2015-03-17 18:29 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman >>>> <btc(a)openinworld.com <mailto:btc@openinworld.com>>: >>>> >>>> >>>> Currently the image the monkey uses to validate >>>> issues is 9 days old - which might be a problem >>>> if your bug fix today depends on or conflicts >>>> with something integrated a week ago. >>>> >>>> I have somewhat isolated the problem to a >>>> Rubric/GTTools update, but nothing looks >>>> obvious from the package level. Its time for >>>> bed, so I haven't dug into code changes yet, >>>> but could someone from the Glamorous Team >>>> familiar with the changes for Issue 15018 take >>>> a look? >>>> >>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15018 >>>> >>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15127 >>>> >>>> cheers -ben >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> possible fix: >>>> GTSpotterEventRecorderSettings >>>> only read/write preference file if this startUp is >>>> a real image start up / booting. >>>> >>>> startUp: resuming >>>> resuming ifFalse:[ ^ self]. >>>> "We reset image preferences, because this is >>>> likely >>>> a newly downloaded image or different user >>>> and he/she should agree about sending data." >>>> self preferences exists ifFalse: [ self reset ]. >>>> self loadPreferences. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> >>> >>> "Every thing has its own flow" >> > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> > > "Every thing has its own flow"

March 18, 2015

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/40564 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

March 18, 2015

[pharo-project/pharo-core] a77d75: 40564

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March 18, 2015

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/40563 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

March 18, 2015

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 42ff65: 40563

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Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 42ff65835e353a461c211fec11fb2426cb5b4c91 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/42ff65835e353a461c211fec… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2015-03-18 (Wed, 18 Mar 2015) Changed paths: R Collections-Unordered.package/Matrix.class/class/deprecated/column_.st R Collections-Unordered.package/Matrix.class/class/deprecated/row_.st A Deprecated40.package/extension/Matrix/class/column_.st A Deprecated40.package/extension/Matrix/class/row_.st A Deprecated40.package/extension/MenuMorph/class/fromArray_.st A Deprecated40.package/extension/MenuMorph/instance/addTranslatedList_.st A Deprecated40.package/extension/MenuMorph/instance/addUpdating_action_.st A Deprecated40.package/extension/MenuMorph/instance/addUpdating_target_action_.st A Deprecated40.package/extension/MenuMorph/instance/add_action_.st A Deprecated40.package/extension/MenuMorph/instance/add_target_action_.st A Deprecated40.package/extension/MenuMorph/instance/title_.st A Deprecated40.package/extension/Object/instance/asReactiveVariable.st A Deprecated40.package/extension/OldClassBuilderAdapter/instance/becomeCompact_.st A Deprecated40.package/extension/OldClassBuilderAdapter/instance/becomeCompact_simplyAt_.st A Deprecated40.package/extension/OldClassBuilderAdapter/instance/becomeUncompact_.st A Deprecated40.package/extension/RadioButtonModel/instance/whenLabelChanged_.st R Monticello.package/MCHttpRepository.class/class/instance creation/inboxRepository.st A Monticello.package/MCHttpRepository.class/class/instance creation/pharoInboxRepository.st A Monticello.package/MCHttpRepository.class/class/instance creation/pharoRepository.st M MonticelloGUI.package/MCWorkingCopyBrowser.class/instance/actions/addSlice.st R Morphic-Base.package/MenuMorph.class/class/deprecated/fromArray_.st R Morphic-Base.package/MenuMorph.class/instance/construction/add_action_.st R Morphic-Base.package/MenuMorph.class/instance/deprecated/addTranslatedList_.st R Morphic-Base.package/MenuMorph.class/instance/deprecated/addUpdating_action_.st R Morphic-Base.package/MenuMorph.class/instance/deprecated/addUpdating_target_action_.st R Morphic-Base.package/MenuMorph.class/instance/deprecated/add_target_action_.st R Morphic-Base.package/MenuMorph.class/instance/deprecated/title_.st M Nautilus.package/AbstractNautilusUI.class/class/menu/shiftedSourceCodeMenu_.st R NewValueHolder.package/extension/Object/instance/asReactiveVariable.st M Pharo-Help.package/PharoEnvironmentHelp.class/README.md M Rubric.package/RubEditingMode.class/class/menu/extendedSearchMenuOn_.st R ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script562.st A ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script563.st R ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update40562.st A ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update40563.st M ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st R Slot.package/OldClassBuilderAdapter.class/instance/adapted api/becomeCompact_.st R Slot.package/OldClassBuilderAdapter.class/instance/adapted api/becomeCompact_simplyAt_.st R Slot.package/OldClassBuilderAdapter.class/instance/adapted api/becomeUncompact_.st R Spec-Core.package/RadioButtonModel.class/instance/deprecated/whenLabelChanged_.st M Text-Edition.package/SmalltalkEditor.class/class/menu declaration/smalltalkEditorMenuOn_.st Log Message: ----------- 40563 13333 MCWorkingCopyBrowser>>addSlice references ScriptLoader https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13333 15158 Move deprecated Methods to Deprecated40 package https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15158 15083 We should have senders/implementors in the code menu https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15083 http://files.pharo.org/image/40/40563.zip

March 18, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] 203 issues tagged tagged for Pharo4

by Marcus Denker

Now we are at 98 Below 100, this is a good milestone. > On 17 Mar 2015, at 10:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Wow! Great! > > Now: 125

March 18, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Show Stopper Issue 15127 Pharo-4.0-Issue-Tracker-Image ci job is red

by Andrei Chis

A new version that fixes this is ready to integrate: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15149/Integrate-GTools Cheers, Andrei On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > perfect! > > On 18 Mar 2015, at 14:25, Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > When data is being send. > > Now there is just a method #ensureComputerID called before data is being > send (so only if sendUsageData is set to true). > This method checks if there is a cookie. If not it creates one. If there > is it loads it. That's all. > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> On 18 Mar 2015, at 14:13, Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> In the new version from the moose repo nothing is written automatically >> or on image start-up to disk. >> Also: >> - the preferences for sending usage data are handled through the settings >> browser >> - *only if* you set the preference for sending usage data to true, a >> *cookie* like file is stored once to disk the first time data is send. >> >> Does it sound better? >> >> >> yesâ¦ and when do you read it? >> >> Esteban >> >> >> Cheers, >> Andrei >> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Esteban, >>> >>> You are not addressing the right issue. The settings are already made to >>> use the Settings framework: >>> >>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15104/Spotter-settings-should-also-appear… >>> >>> What Andrei mentioned is that in the way saving Settings for the whole >>> computer is implemented now is quite unusable. >>> >>> Anyway, the current issue is that we would like to store a unique id to >>> identify the computer. This is not a setting. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> another thing: we are 14 days from release. >>>> if you cannot provide a version that actually works without generating >>>> undesirable effects, then the right solution is to disable that >>>> functionality and wait for Pharo 5 to add it (with enough time to do it >>>> properly). >>>> >>>> do not get me wrong: I *do want* everything in image and working, but >>>> well, with the stress of the latests daysâ¦ We need to be prepared to take >>>> some drastic things (we already delayed some important thingsâ¦ we can delay >>>> others) >>>> >>>> Esteban >>>> >>>> On 18 Mar 2015, at 13:22, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> honestly, what misses completely the point is the idea of reading and >>>> saving your preferences each time the image is open. >>>> this is not java, we do not have a stateless environmentâ¦ once you have >>>> it in the image and your image is save, there is no point on save/restore >>>> outside (which is what you are doing with that hand-made settings stuff). >>>> >>>> this: >>>> >>>> startUp: resuming >>>> "We reset image preferences, because this is likely >>>> a newly downloaded image or different user >>>> and he/she should agree about sending data." >>>> self preferences exists ifFalse: [ self reset ]. >>>> self loadPreferences. >>>> >>>> loads your preferences (ideally always the same) each time you save the >>>> image (not just each time you open it, which is already BAD, but each time >>>> you do a save). >>>> >>>> Iâm still waiting for a quick replacement, because it is braking a lot >>>> of things for me: the CI building, the spur building, etc. >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> Esteban >>>> >>>> >>>> On 18 Mar 2015, at 11:45, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> The show stopper is due to the fact that we would like to store a >>>> unique id for the computer to be able to track the data (kind of a cookie). >>>> This is what is being written on the file system (however, no information >>>> is being sent without the explicit consent). >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Andrei Chis < >>>> chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The current version from the moose repo uses the settings browser. >>>>> However, with the current mechanism for exporting setting people using >>>>> Moose and Pharo images will not be able to export their sendUsageData >>>>> setting. >>>>> That mechanism is really broken ( >>>>> http://forum.world.st/Exporting-Setting-preferences-tc4812327.html) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Andrei >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Esteban Lorenzano < >>>>> estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> yeah, real solution is to remove GTSpotterEventRecorderSettings and >>>>>> use the Settings framework. >>>>>> AFAIK, guys in GTools team are already working on it :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Esteban >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18 Mar 2015, at 03:20, Ben Coman <btc(a)openInWorld.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Nicolai. I tried your suggestion but running the CI tests >>>>>> then crashes the VM. I'll gather more info. >>>>>> cheers -ben >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:12 AM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2015-03-17 18:29 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Currently the image the monkey uses to validate issues is 9 days >>>>>>>> old - which might be a problem if your bug fix today depends on or >>>>>>>> conflicts with something integrated a week ago. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have somewhat isolated the problem to a Rubric/GTTools update, >>>>>>>> but nothing looks obvious from the package level. Its time for bed, so I >>>>>>>> haven't dug into code changes yet, but could someone from the Glamorous >>>>>>>> Team familiar with the changes for Issue 15018 take a look? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15018 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15127 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> cheers -ben >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> possible fix: >>>>>>> GTSpotterEventRecorderSettings >>>>>>> only read/write preference file if this startUp is a real image >>>>>>> start up / booting. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> startUp: resuming >>>>>>> resuming ifFalse:[ ^ self]. >>>>>>> "We reset image preferences, because this is likely >>>>>>> a newly downloaded image or different user >>>>>>> and he/she should agree about sending data." >>>>>>> self preferences exists ifFalse: [ self reset ]. >>>>>>> self loadPreferences. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "Every thing has its own flow" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Every thing has its own flow" >>> >> >> >> > >

March 18, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Show Stopper Issue 15127 Pharo-4.0-Issue-Tracker-Image ci job is red

by Esteban Lorenzano

perfect! > On 18 Mar 2015, at 14:25, Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > When data is being send. > > Now there is just a method #ensureComputerID called before data is being send (so only if sendUsageData is set to true). > This method checks if there is a cookie. If not it creates one. If there is it loads it. That's all. > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> On 18 Mar 2015, at 14:13, Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com <mailto:chisvasileandrei@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> In the new version from the moose repo nothing is written automatically or on image start-up to disk. >> Also: >> - the preferences for sending usage data are handled through the settings browser >> - *only if* you set the preference for sending usage data to true, a *cookie* like file is stored once to disk the first time data is send. >> >> Does it sound better? > > yesâ¦ and when do you read it? > > Esteban > >> >> Cheers, >> Andrei >> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: >> Esteban, >> >> You are not addressing the right issue. The settings are already made to use the Settings framework: >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15104/Spotter-settings-should-also-appear… <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15104/Spotter-settings-should-also-appear…> >> >> What Andrei mentioned is that in the way saving Settings for the whole computer is implemented now is quite unusable. >> >> Anyway, the current issue is that we would like to store a unique id to identify the computer. This is not a setting. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: >> another thing: we are 14 days from release. >> if you cannot provide a version that actually works without generating undesirable effects, then the right solution is to disable that functionality and wait for Pharo 5 to add it (with enough time to do it properly). >> >> do not get me wrong: I *do want* everything in image and working, but well, with the stress of the latests daysâ¦ We need to be prepared to take some drastic things (we already delayed some important thingsâ¦ we can delay others) >> >> Esteban >> >>> On 18 Mar 2015, at 13:22, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> honestly, what misses completely the point is the idea of reading and saving your preferences each time the image is open. >>> this is not java, we do not have a stateless environmentâ¦ once you have it in the image and your image is save, there is no point on save/restore outside (which is what you are doing with that hand-made settings stuff). >>> >>> this: >>> >>> startUp: resuming >>> "We reset image preferences, because this is likely >>> a newly downloaded image or different user >>> and he/she should agree about sending data." >>> self preferences exists ifFalse: [ self reset ]. >>> self loadPreferences. >>> >>> loads your preferences (ideally always the same) each time you save the image (not just each time you open it, which is already BAD, but each time you do a save). >>> >>> Iâm still waiting for a quick replacement, because it is braking a lot of things for me: the CI building, the spur building, etc. >>> >>> cheers, >>> Esteban >>> >>> >>>> On 18 Mar 2015, at 11:45, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> The show stopper is due to the fact that we would like to store a unique id for the computer to be able to track the data (kind of a cookie). This is what is being written on the file system (however, no information is being sent without the explicit consent). >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com <mailto:chisvasileandrei@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> The current version from the moose repo uses the settings browser. >>>> However, with the current mechanism for exporting setting people using Moose and Pharo images will not be able to export their sendUsageData setting. >>>> That mechanism is really broken (http://forum.world.st/Exporting-Setting-preferences-tc4812327.html <http://forum.world.st/Exporting-Setting-preferences-tc4812327.html>) >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Andrei >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> yeah, real solution is to remove GTSpotterEventRecorderSettings and use the Settings framework. >>>> AFAIK, guys in GTools team are already working on it :) >>>> >>>> Esteban >>>> >>>>> On 18 Mar 2015, at 03:20, Ben Coman <btc(a)openInWorld.com <mailto:btc@openInWorld.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Nicolai. I tried your suggestion but running the CI tests then crashes the VM. I'll gather more info. >>>>> cheers -ben >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:12 AM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de <mailto:nicolaihess@web.de>> wrote: >>>>> 2015-03-17 18:29 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com <mailto:btc@openinworld.com>>: >>>>> >>>>> Currently the image the monkey uses to validate issues is 9 days old - which might be a problem if your bug fix today depends on or conflicts with something integrated a week ago. >>>>> >>>>> I have somewhat isolated the problem to a Rubric/GTTools update, but nothing looks obvious from the package level. Its time for bed, so I haven't dug into code changes yet, but could someone from the Glamorous Team familiar with the changes for Issue 15018 take a look? >>>>> >>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15018 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15018> >>>>> >>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15127 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15127> >>>>> >>>>> cheers -ben >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> possible fix: >>>>> GTSpotterEventRecorderSettings >>>>> only read/write preference file if this startUp is a real image start up / booting. >>>>> >>>>> startUp: resuming >>>>> resuming ifFalse:[ ^ self]. >>>>> "We reset image preferences, because this is likely >>>>> a newly downloaded image or different user >>>>> and he/she should agree about sending data." >>>>> self preferences exists ifFalse: [ self reset ]. >>>>> self loadPreferences. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> >>>> >>>> "Every thing has its own flow" >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" >> > >

March 18, 2015

About SmalltalkImage>>calcEndianness

by Guillermo Polito

Hi! We are here with Stef looking at the calcEndianess method which introduces a dependency to Form and BitBlt from SmalltalkImage. bytes := #[0 0 0 0]. "(1 2 3 4) or (4 3 2 1)" word := WordArray with: 16r01020304. blt := (BitBlt toForm: (Form new hackBits: bytes)) sourceForm: (Form new hackBits: word). blt combinationRule: Form over. "store" blt sourceY: 0; destY: 0; height: 1; width: 4. blt sourceX: 0; destX: 0. blt copyBits. "paste the word into the bytes" bytes first = 1 ifTrue: [^ #big]. bytes first = 4 ifTrue: [^ #little]. self error: 'Ted is confused'. Is that code really useful? I mean, usually all machines are little endian now, aren't they? And in case big endianess comes back, shouldn't be easier and cheaper to do it with just a primitive? It will be much less code than using BitBlt and Form and some calculations, and simpler, and it looks like the responsibility of the VM to know that... Guille

March 18, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Rubric mutability issue in RubTextComposer binary search

by Aliaksei Syrel

Hi, Why is that an issue in Rubric? Because I can reproduce it only in Rubric :) Rubric is great and it's a pleasure to use it! I'm just curious if there is a possible quick fix. I guess, I have an idea why it could happen (because rubric for styling uses it's own background thread and doesn't absolutely takes care if during styling in its inner threads text changes) but I'm not sure if I can find time in the very nearest future to fix it, or at least try. Why do not ensuring in spotter that only one thread at a time can modify > the text editor? That is the most interesting part. In spotter I can guarantee that at any time always maximal only one thread have access to UI elements. But I can't guarantee that this thread is UI one. It is important. I build some widgets completely in background and then pass them to UI thread to be added in the World. By convention in Spotter only UI thread can add and modify widgets in the world. If widget not in the world it can be modified by any thread, but only one. I tried to reproduce the issue, so there is a synthetic examples: (huge numbers to increase probability of exception) It works for text edit morph: |morph random| > morph := TextMorphForEditView new. > morph openInWindow extent: 400@400. > random := Random seed: 1337. [ 1 to: 1337 do: > [ :i | morph contents: (String loremIpsum: (random nextInt: 1337) + 42) ] > ] fork The same doesn't work for rubric: |rubric random| > rubric := RubScrolledTextMorph new beForSmalltalkCode. > rubric openInWindow extent: 400@400. > random := Random seed: 1337. > [ 1 to: 1337 do: > [ :i | rubric updateTextWith: (String loremIpsum: (random nextInt: 1337) + > 42) ] ] fork > Why do not ensuring in spotter that only one thread at a time can modify > the text editor? yes, if no solution is found I will always create rubric morphs in UI thread Thanks for answers Cheers, Alex On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com > wrote: > I agree with Stephan... I don't think that Rubric is built to be thread > safe. > > Also, making Rubric thread safe will probably be a lot of work... Why do > not ensuring in spotter that only one thread at a time can modify the text > editor? > > El mar., 17 de mar. de 2015 a la(s) 11:42 p. m., Stephan Eggermont < > stephan(a)stack.nl> escribiÃ³: > > Hi Alex, >> >> On 17/03/15 22:19, Aliaksei Syrel wrote: >> > seems like there is a rather rare bug in Rubric. I opened an issue with >> > explanation: >> > >> > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15153/Rubric-mutability- >> issue-in-RubTextComposer-binary-search >> > >> > Would be nice to fix it until release. It was caught in Spotter - as it >> > heavily uses multithreading. Any suggestions are welcome if it is known >> :) >> >> Why is that an issue in Rubric? Sounds like you might need a monitor in >> Spotter? >> >> Stephan >> >> >>

March 18, 2015