February 2015 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Recording user actions in GTools

by Andrei Chis

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > On 26/02/15 16:10, Andrei Chis wrote: > >> The recording of data will be opt-out: *you have to explicitly agree >> with sending usage data*. >> > > Uhhm. That's called opt-in. > > Yes, I confused them. > A practical issue: I have projects/images where it is > absolutely no problem, and projects where I definitely > don't want it. All local images is not a good setting. > For certain directories would work. > You will be able to change this settings in each individual image. You will further have a default setting that will be persisted to your preference folder that will apply to all new images. We need this so we do not ask every time you open a new image. Does this address your situation? Would you not want to send data from some images because of privacy issues? By default we only collect data that does not contain class names, method names or any code snippet. The only concrete information consists in category names: "Methods", "Classes", "History", etc. Cheers, Andrei > > Stephan > > >

Feb. 27, 2015

[Metacello] Getting all working copies from a configuration

by Guillermo Polito

Hi all, (and particularly Dale :) I want to get the code (classes, methods...) that will be loaded by a metacello configuration *without* installing it inside the image. (ConfigurationOfXXX project version: #'1.0') fetchCode "or something like that" I saw that there is a #fetch method in the MetacelloMCVersion but It does not do what I want. Nor it loads the code in the package cache as the Gofer fetch does. Is metacello prepared for fetching the code without loading it inside the image? On one side I know that I can do a #record to get the list of specs of a particular version. I also know I can get what I want from a monticello repository + a version name doing something like this: (MCHttpRepository location:' http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Guille/ObjectSpace/main') versionFromFileNamed: ('OzObjectSpace-GuillermoPolito.124.mcz') But I don't understand how to easily get the repository location and versions from a metacello configuration. Any lead? ^^ Thanks, Guille

Feb. 27, 2015

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/40519 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Feb. 27, 2015

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 0b5476: 40519

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Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 0b5476bf31a7a05c92771452ea7a94cfe18db9db https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/0b5476bf31a7a05c92771452… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2015-02-27 (Fri, 27 Feb 2015) Changed paths: R ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script518.st A ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script519.st R ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update40518.st A ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update40519.st M ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st M Slot.package/ProcessLocalSlot.class/README.md A Slot.package/RelationSet.class/README.md A Slot.package/RelationSet.class/class/instance creation/owner_slot_.st A Slot.package/RelationSet.class/definition.st A Slot.package/RelationSet.class/instance/accessing/size.st A Slot.package/RelationSet.class/instance/adding/add_.st A Slot.package/RelationSet.class/instance/copying/copy.st A Slot.package/RelationSet.class/instance/enumerating/do_.st A Slot.package/RelationSet.class/instance/initailize-release/initializeOwner_slot_.st A Slot.package/RelationSet.class/instance/internal/inverseAdd_.st A Slot.package/RelationSet.class/instance/internal/inverseRemove_.st A Slot.package/RelationSet.class/instance/private/species.st A Slot.package/RelationSet.class/instance/removing/remove_ifAbsent_.st A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/README.md A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/class/instance creation/named_inverse_inClass_.st A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/definition.st A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/instance/accessing/inverseName.st A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/instance/accessing/inverseSlot.st A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/instance/accessing/targetClass.st A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/instance/accessing/targetClassName.st A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/instance/code generation/emitStore_.st A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/instance/comparing/=.st A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/instance/comparing/hash.st A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/instance/initialization/inClass_.st A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/instance/initialization/inverse_inClass_.st A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/instance/initialization/linkUp.st A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/instance/internal/addAssociationFrom_to_.st A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/instance/internal/checkValue_.st A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/instance/internal/removeAssociationFrom_to_.st A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/instance/printing/printOn_.st A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/instance/testing/hasInverse.st A Slot.package/RelationSlot.class/instance/testing/isToOneSlot.st A Slot.package/ToManyRelationSlot.class/README.md A Slot.package/ToManyRelationSlot.class/definition.st A Slot.package/ToManyRelationSlot.class/instance/initialization/initialize_.st A Slot.package/ToManyRelationSlot.class/instance/internal/add_to_.st A Slot.package/ToManyRelationSlot.class/instance/internal/remove_from_.st A Slot.package/ToManyRelationSlot.class/instance/meta-object-protocol/wantsInitalization.st A Slot.package/ToOneRelationSlot.class/README.md A Slot.package/ToOneRelationSlot.class/definition.st A Slot.package/ToOneRelationSlot.class/instance/internal/writeInverse_to_.st A Slot.package/ToOneRelationSlot.class/instance/meta-object-protocol/write_to_.st A Slot.package/ToOneRelationSlot.class/instance/testing/isToOneSlot.st Log Message: ----------- 40519 15010 Slots: Example Association Slot https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15010 15007 Add comment on ProcessLocalSlot for its drawbacks https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15007 http://files.pharo.org/image/40/40519.zip

Feb. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] The evil twin in 40516

by Clara Allende

Great news! I'll get in touch with you and see how I can help :) 2015-02-27 10:16 GMT-03:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > > > On 27 Feb 2015, at 13:59, Clara Allende <clari.allende(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Looks super cool :) Now that I finished my exams I can get back on this > too... > > Very good! > > The idea is to step-by-step take your prototype and move it over. > > Next I will do the link-setting infrastructure: > - set a link on the AST -> create twin/invalidate > - remove last link -> twin disappears. > > For the AST transformer I want to build a tiny Plugin-Architecture for Opal > (which then people can use for more crazy experiments, too). > Yay! I love this :) > > Marcus > > >

Feb. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] The evil twin in 40516

by Marcus Denker

> On 27 Feb 2015, at 13:59, Clara Allende <clari.allende(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Looks super cool :) Now that I finished my exams I can get back on this too... Very good! The idea is to step-by-step take your prototype and move it over. Next I will do the link-setting infrastructure: - set a link on the AST -> create twin/invalidate - remove last link -> twin disappears. For the AST transformer I want to build a tiny Plugin-Architecture for Opal (which then people can use for more crazy experiments, too). Marcus

Feb. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] The evil twin in 40516

by kilon alios

Sooner or later then you will have to name people, because talking generally wont change the situation. Who in this community believe that improving Pharo is pointless / does not have an effect ? I am getting totally opposite feeling with this community. One the reasons I enjoy Pharo. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On 27 Feb 2015, at 13:24, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I can explain why, its the language you use. > > For example this feature, I have no clue what you guys are talking about. > > For people to be impressed first they need to understand what they should > be impressed with. > > I did not mean this feature. I mean the abstract concept of improvement > having an effect. > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> >> wrote: >> >>> So many cool things! >>> >>> We cannot even imagine at this point what all these little conceptual >>> things will bring in downstream projects. This is amazing. >>> >> >> Interestingly, the world view of most people is different... they never >> realise this, they seem to fundamentally not see this >> connection. I have not yet found out why... >> >> Marcus >> >> >> > > >

Feb. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Easy way to write a proxy?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > For most cases Ghost is the way to go. >> >> > We will add a proxy model (based on Ghost or just ghost as is) to Pharo by > default in Pharo5. > Then people can just use it. > And with the lazy become of Spur / new Cog that would be a super great combination. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Feb. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] The evil twin in 40516

by Clara Allende

Looks super cool :) Now that I finished my exams I can get back on this too... Thanks a lot Marcus :) 2015-02-27 9:34 GMT-03:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > > On 27 Feb 2015, at 13:24, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I can explain why, its the language you use. > > For example this feature, I have no clue what you guys are talking about. > > For people to be impressed first they need to understand what they should > be impressed with. > > I did not mean this feature. I mean the abstract concept of improvement > having an effect. > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> >> wrote: >> >>> So many cool things! >>> >>> We cannot even imagine at this point what all these little conceptual >>> things will bring in downstream projects. This is amazing. >>> >> >> Interestingly, the world view of most people is different... they never >> realise this, they seem to fundamentally not see this >> connection. I have not yet found out why... >> >> Marcus >> >> >> > > >

Feb. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] The evil twin in 40516

by Marcus Denker

> On 27 Feb 2015, at 13:24, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I can explain why, its the language you use. > > For example this feature, I have no clue what you guys are talking about. > > For people to be impressed first they need to understand what they should be impressed with. > I did not mean this feature. I mean the abstract concept of improvement having an effect. > On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: > So many cool things! > > We cannot even imagine at this point what all these little conceptual things will bring in downstream projects. This is amazing. > > Interestingly, the world view of most people is different... they never realise this, they seem to fundamentally not see this > connection. I have not yet found out why... > > Marcus > > >

Feb. 27, 2015