February 2015 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 3fabea: 40497

by Max Leske

> On 24 Feb 2015, at 09:48, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > >> On 24 Feb 2015, at 09:47, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> On 24 Feb 2015, at 09:33, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: >>> >>> But for configuration everyone anyway uses >>> >>> âCoufigurationOfâ¦â asClass load >> >> I wasnât aware that #asClass existedâ¦ ;) > > You are a Noob, Max ;-) HA! Iâll show you n00b! (SystemDictionary allInstances detect: [ :dict | dict keys includes: âMyClassâ asSymbol ] ifNone: [ nil ]) ifNil: [ nil ] ifNotNil: [ :dict | (dict at: âMyClass' asSymbol) new ] xD > >>> >>> no? >>> >>> Uko >>> >>>> On 24 Feb 2015, at 08:57, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >>>> >>>> Doru and Yuriy >>>> >>>> String is not a good API for reflective operations. This is what you are doing with asPackage. >>>> When I want to access to a class I do >>>> Class >>>> or Smalltalk globals classNamed: 'Point' >>>> a compile method Point>>#x >>>> and not 'Point?x' asCompiledMethod >>>> I would prefer to have Package named: 'jkljk' than the string behavior. >>>> >>>> and what if I want to reflect on code that is remote? >>>> >>>> So I maintain that we are polluting String with reflective operations that it should not have. >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

Feb. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 3fabea: 40497

by Nicolas Cellier

2015-02-24 9:48 GMT+01:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: > > > On 24 Feb 2015, at 09:47, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> On 24 Feb 2015, at 09:33, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > >> > >> But for configuration everyone anyway uses > >> > >> âCoufigurationOfâ¦â asClass load > > > > I wasnât aware that #asClass existedâ¦ ;) > > You are a Noob, Max ;-) > > Maybe 'Foo' as: Class -> String>>as: aBehavior ^aBehavior fromString: self -> ^Class fromString: 'Foo' or something like that? > >> > >> no? > >> > >> Uko > >> > >>> On 24 Feb 2015, at 08:57, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > >>> > >>> Doru and Yuriy > >>> > >>> String is not a good API for reflective operations. This is what you > are doing with asPackage. > >>> When I want to access to a class I do > >>> Class > >>> or Smalltalk globals classNamed: 'Point' > >>> a compile method Point>>#x > >>> and not 'Point?x' asCompiledMethod > >>> I would prefer to have Package named: 'jkljk' than the string > behavior. > >>> > >>> and what if I want to reflect on code that is remote? > >>> > >>> So I maintain that we are polluting String with reflective operations > that it should not have. > >>> > >>> Stef > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > >

Feb. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 3fabea: 40497

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 24 Feb 2015, at 09:47, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On 24 Feb 2015, at 09:33, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: >> >> But for configuration everyone anyway uses >> >> âCoufigurationOfâ¦â asClass load > > I wasnât aware that #asClass existedâ¦ ;) You are a Noob, Max ;-) >> >> no? >> >> Uko >> >>> On 24 Feb 2015, at 08:57, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >>> >>> Doru and Yuriy >>> >>> String is not a good API for reflective operations. This is what you are doing with asPackage. >>> When I want to access to a class I do >>> Class >>> or Smalltalk globals classNamed: 'Point' >>> a compile method Point>>#x >>> and not 'Point?x' asCompiledMethod >>> I would prefer to have Package named: 'jkljk' than the string behavior. >>> >>> and what if I want to reflect on code that is remote? >>> >>> So I maintain that we are polluting String with reflective operations that it should not have. >>> >>> Stef >>> >> >> > >

Feb. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 3fabea: 40497

by Max Leske

> On 24 Feb 2015, at 09:33, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > > But for configuration everyone anyway uses > > âCoufigurationOfâ¦â asClass load I wasnât aware that #asClass existedâ¦ ;) > > no? > > Uko > >> On 24 Feb 2015, at 08:57, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >> >> Doru and Yuriy >> >> String is not a good API for reflective operations. This is what you are doing with asPackage. >> When I want to access to a class I do >> Class >> or Smalltalk globals classNamed: 'Point' >> a compile method Point>>#x >> and not 'Point?x' asCompiledMethod >> I would prefer to have Package named: 'jkljk' than the string behavior. >> >> and what if I want to reflect on code that is remote? >> >> So I maintain that we are polluting String with reflective operations that it should not have. >> >> Stef >> > >

Feb. 24, 2015

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Feb. 24, 2015

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Feb. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 3fabea: 40497

by Yuriy Tymchuk

But for configuration everyone anyway uses âCoufigurationOfâ¦â asClass load no? Uko > On 24 Feb 2015, at 08:57, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > Doru and Yuriy > > String is not a good API for reflective operations. This is what you are doing with asPackage. > When I want to access to a class I do > Class > or Smalltalk globals classNamed: 'Point' > a compile method Point>>#x > and not 'Point?x' asCompiledMethod > I would prefer to have Package named: 'jkljk' than the string behavior. > > and what if I want to reflect on code that is remote? > > So I maintain that we are polluting String with reflective operations that it should not have. > > Stef >

Feb. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] convention for protocol names

by stepharo

I did a pass on an automicaCategoriser that I would like to run on the complete system but I never got the time to make sure that it handles well *- If you want to have a look this is in http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~StephaneDucasse/AutomaticMethodCategorizer I should put it back on my list. stef Le 24/2/15 08:47, Nicolai Hess a Ã©crit : > Nautilus provides some nice icons for different protocol names > a red square for a "private" > a yellow diamond for "initialization" > > And you can generate the initialize method. > But this generated initialize method is put into an "initialize" > protocol. > > What is the convention a protocol for the initialize methods: > > initialize > or > initialization > ? > > nicolai >

Feb. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Class/Method common interface idea

by stepharo

Le 24/2/15 08:13, Marcus Denker a Ã©crit : >> On 23 Feb 2015, at 17:46, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> so my idea is that maybe we can create traits for common classes(behaviors) and methods properties. Because besides the real ones there are ring, monticello and other definitions. It would be nice if one could browse the trait that defines common properties for all the definitions + if someone needs a custom property - there is one place to add it. > What is clear is that we need to unify the API. We now have > > propertyValueAt: > > in CompiledMethod and Behaviour, while RBProgramNode uses > > propertyAt: > > and Morph even > > valueOfProperty: > > I think the best is just propertyAt:, we donât have âvalueAt:â in Array, either. +1 > > As for a shared Traitâ¦ the implementation is quite different in all of them... Indeed I think that making the API compatible is more important because we do not care to reuse different implementation. This is what ring failed a bit to do, its API should be revisited. > Marcus > > >

Feb. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 3fabea: 40497

by stepharo

Doru and Yuriy String is not a good API for reflective operations. This is what you are doing with asPackage. When I want to access to a class I do Class or Smalltalk globals classNamed: 'Point' a compile method Point>>#x and not 'Point?x' asCompiledMethod I would prefer to have Package named: 'jkljk' than the string behavior. and what if I want to reflect on code that is remote? So I maintain that we are polluting String with reflective operations that it should not have. Stef

Feb. 24, 2015