December 2015 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Cuis] Sorting Unicode strings (Re: [Unicode] collation sequences (Re: [squeak-dev] Unicode Support))

by Todd Blanchard

They are practically the same thing. ICU was developed by Taligent which was a joint venture between Apple and IBM. Makes sense that NSString and ICU's UnicodeString are pretty close in implementation. ICU was also ported to Java for Sun by IBM. The point is - this is a very elaborate chunk of code with far reach. If ICU is wrong on some point - it is universally wrong and thus likely to be taken as "right" as it is at least consistent. I think re-implementing it is folly TBH. Just use it. > On Dec 8, 2015, at 15:52, EuanM <euanmee(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Equally old are the NextStep Object C functions which are now embodied > within MacOS X. >

Dec. 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Cuis] Sorting Unicode strings (Re: [Unicode] collation sequences (Re: [squeak-dev] Unicode Support))

by Todd Blanchard

So we should start with that. Fwiw - icu also provides time and date format internationalization and some other utilities. It is a very comprehensive library. Sent from the road > On Dec 9, 2015, at 07:03, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 12/8/15, Todd Blanchard <tblanchard(a)mac.com> wrote: >> I just want to second Dale's endorsement of the ICU library. It has been >> around a long time (originally developed by Taligent) and it provides the >> base unicode capabilities for an awful lot of software. >> >> I think it would make more sense to bring icu into Smalltalk as a >> NativeBoost library than to spend resources reimplementing and maintaining >> it. >> >> -Todd Blanchard > > ICU already seems to be available for Smalltalk accessed through wrappers > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6234 > > --Hannes > >>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 11:20, Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 12/07/2015 11:31 PM, H. Hirzel wrote: >>>> Dale >>>> >>>> Thank you for your answer with links to the ICU library and the notes >>>> about classes in Gemstone. Noteworthy that you have a class Utf8 as a >>>> subclass of ByteArray. >>>> >>>> I understand that Gemstone uses the ICU library and thus does not >>>> implement the algorithms in Smalltalk. >>>> >>>> I am currently looking into what the ICU library provides. >> >>

Dec. 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] How does Nautilus change highlighting for class definitions

by Skip Lentz

> On Dec 9, 2015, at 3:02 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> 2015-12-09 14:45 GMT+01:00 Skip Lentz <skip.lentz(a)inria.fr>: >> >> But beware, there are multiple parts involved if you use nautilus code >> pane. >> - parser for syntax highlighting >> - the styler itself >> - completion ( you may or may not want to have NEC to popup the completion >> menu) >> - class / method selection dependent menu entries (Suggestions for example) >> - the acceptor (on accept, a class definition is execute, a method >> definition is compiled) > > > thanks to both. > > >> what are ini-modules? > > > it's a tentative replacement for class-side instance creation methods that suffer > from a lot of problems. It's a new concept, just like traits and slots, > except that it solves the instance creation problems listed at the end > of > > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~MarcoNaddeo/IniModules <http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~MarcoNaddeo/IniModules> Looks nice, will the UI you are creating show some special way of displaying/editing them? Or is it just to be able to see a list of ini-modules in the browser and edit them in ordinary syntax? > Thanks again > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill >

Dec. 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] layoutChanged call too much ?

by Thierry Goubier

Le 09/12/2015 15:47, Ferlicot D. Cyril a Ã©crit : > Le 09/12/2015 15:18, Nicolai Hess a Ã©crit : >> >> >> I thnk the Transcript scroller uses a TransformMorph as well. >> > > > I tried 4-5 other methods without a transcript to see if the same thing > happen without it but each time the image crash immediatelyâ¦ > I tried to print in stdout, in rubric, to use #inform:, to write in a > fileâ¦ Nothing works, I get an emergency evaluator all the time. > If you use the Jejak tracer, then you would get events for each call of the method, and then you could filter on which instance you want to see the events. Jejak is a bit rough to use at the moment however... Thierry

Dec. 9, 2015

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 804dcf: 50493

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Branch: refs/heads/5.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 804dcf1adc2f65b37e1f8b493360d517bda3b3b9 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/804dcf1adc2f65b37e1f8b49… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2015-12-09 (Wed, 09 Dec 2015) Changed paths: A Metacello-MC.package/extension/MCFileTreeRepository/instance/versionInfoFromVersionNamed_.st A Monticello-Tests.package/MCRepositoryTest.class/instance/tests/testCanCreateFiletreeRepositoryFromUrlWithRelativePath.st M MonticelloFileTree-Core.package/MCFileTreeRepository.class/class/utility/urlAsFileReference_.st R ScriptLoader50.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script50492.st A ScriptLoader50.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script50493.st R ScriptLoader50.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update50492.st A ScriptLoader50.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update50493.st M ScriptLoader50.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st Log Message: ----------- 50493 17212 DNU on MCFileRepository class>>#basicFromUrl: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17212 17213 DNU when trying to retrieve version info from filetree repository https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17213 http://files.pharo.org/image/50/50493.zip

Dec. 9, 2015

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Branch: refs/tags/50493 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Dec. 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] layoutChanged call too much ?

by Nicolai Hess

2015-12-09 15:47 GMT+01:00 Ferlicot D. Cyril <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com>: > Le 09/12/2015 15:18, Nicolai Hess a Ã©crit : > > > > > > I thnk the Transcript scroller uses a TransformMorph as well. > > > > > I tried 4-5 other methods without a transcript to see if the same thing > happen without it but each time the image crash immediatelyâ¦ > I tried to print in stdout, in rubric, to use #inform:, to write in a > fileâ¦ Nothing works, I get an emergency evaluator all the time. > you can: - create a "global" morph for logging: (Smalltalk at:#testLabel put:StringMorph new) openInWorld. - and in TransformMorph>>layoutChanged put (Smalltalk at:#testLabel) contents:(DateAndTime now asString). Now, every time the layoutChanged method is called, the string morph will show the current time stamp. (You can extent this ,by for example, use a nother "global var" for counting the calls) > > -- > Cyril Ferlicot > > http://www.synectique.eu > > 165 Avenue Bretagne > Lille 59000 France > >

Dec. 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Cuis] Sorting Unicode strings (Re: [Unicode] collation sequences (Re: [squeak-dev] Unicode Support))

by H. Hirzel

On 12/8/15, Todd Blanchard <tblanchard(a)mac.com> wrote: > I just want to second Dale's endorsement of the ICU library. It has been > around a long time (originally developed by Taligent) and it provides the > base unicode capabilities for an awful lot of software. > > I think it would make more sense to bring icu into Smalltalk as a > NativeBoost library than to spend resources reimplementing and maintaining > it. > > -Todd Blanchard ICU already seems to be available for Smalltalk accessed through wrappers http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6234 --Hannes >> On Dec 8, 2015, at 11:20, Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com> >> wrote: >> >> On 12/07/2015 11:31 PM, H. Hirzel wrote: >>> Dale >>> >>> Thank you for your answer with links to the ICU library and the notes >>> about classes in Gemstone. Noteworthy that you have a class Utf8 as a >>> subclass of ByteArray. >>> >>> I understand that Gemstone uses the ICU library and thus does not >>> implement the algorithms in Smalltalk. >>> >>> I am currently looking into what the ICU library provides. > >

Dec. 9, 2015

[ ANN ] Pharo Days 2016

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Dear fellow Pharoers, Mark your calendars: on Thursday March 31 & Friday April 1 we are organising the Pharo Days 2016. This year we moved the location to Namur, Belgium, just a bit south of Brussels, at the very beautiful location of the âCercle de Wallonieâ overlooking the river Meuse. Weâll update the following page moving forward. https://medium.com/concerning-pharo/pharo-days-2016-c52fe4d7caf You can ask questions on any of the Pharo mailing lists or you can email the Pharo Board. Let's make this another success, together ! We hope to see as many of you as possible.

Dec. 9, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] layoutChanged call too much ?

by Ferlicot D. Cyril

Le 09/12/2015 15:18, Nicolai Hess a Ã©crit : > > > I thnk the Transcript scroller uses a TransformMorph as well. > I tried 4-5 other methods without a transcript to see if the same thing happen without it but each time the image crash immediatelyâ¦ I tried to print in stdout, in rubric, to use #inform:, to write in a fileâ¦ Nothing works, I get an emergency evaluator all the time. -- Cyril Ferlicot http://www.synectique.eu 165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France

Dec. 9, 2015