November 2015 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is switch universe in Bloc?

by Marcus Denker

> On 06 Nov 2015, at 07:31, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > :) Bloc is in rapid development. Api/logic changes dramatically, not all concepts still clear and Pharo dev list creates to many noise about Bloc. People will start thinking that it is done and will start using it. Then they will ask noob questions or point to something that does not work/not implemented and we know that it is not implemented. Then they may complain about lack of documentation and no examples and in the end they will end up with not the best impression of Bloc and will likely not accept it when it is done. Also it is always complicated to change/remove something that is in use. > > Pharo dev list is for "open-beta testing". Bloc list for "close testing". > Having in a loop 10 people easier than 100-1000. > > But now that you told everyone to subscribe to the list (which means I will set up a real mailing list), there will be 100 people on it within a day. Marcus

Nov. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Wow things have changed.

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! Roassal 2 uses Athens, itself using Cairo. Alexandre > Le 5 nov. 2015 Ã 21:25, Eagle Offshore <eagleoffshore(a)mac.com> a Ã©crit : > > In my googling I have spotted some articles on running Pharo on raspberry pi, and open street map with roassal2. I'm basically building an appliance here but would love to develop on my mac and deploy to the raspberry pi 2 as full screen. I looked at the release notes for raspbian OS and it seems a package 'squeak-vm' was updated in 2013 for it. Not sure about cairo for roassal2?

Nov. 6, 2015

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Branch: refs/tags/50421 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Nov. 6, 2015

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 5fa791: 50421

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Branch: refs/heads/5.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 5fa7912ba1d5b4b68f1b267f4d2a68c2399188da https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/5fa7912ba1d5b4b68f1b267f… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2015-11-06 (Fri, 06 Nov 2015) Changed paths: A Morphic-Core.package/HandMorph.class/instance/drawing/fullDrawOn_.st R Morphic-Core.package/HandMorph.class/instance/recategorized/fullDrawOn_.st M Rubric.package/RubAbstractTextArea.class/definition.st M Rubric.package/RubAbstractTextArea.class/instance/accessing selection/selectionChanged.st M Rubric.package/RubAbstractTextArea.class/instance/event handling/mouseDown_.st M Rubric.package/RubAbstractTextArea.class/instance/event handling/mouseMove_.st M Rubric.package/RubPluggableTextMorph.class/definition.st R Rubric.package/RubPluggableTextMorph.class/instance/accessing-selection/selectionInterval_.st R Rubric.package/RubPluggableTextMorph.class/instance/accessing/getText.st R Rubric.package/RubPluggableTextMorph.class/instance/formatting/formatSourceCode.st M Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/definition.st M Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/instance/accessing-selection/selectFrom_to_.st A Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/instance/accessing-selection/selectionChanged.st M Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/instance/accessing-selection/selectionInterval_.st A Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/instance/accessing-selection/setModelSelection_.st M Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/instance/accessing-selection/setSelection_.st A Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/instance/accessing-selection/setTextAreaSelection_.st A Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/instance/acessing text/getText.st R Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/instance/event handling/selectionChanged.st M Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/instance/event handling/whenPrimarySelectionUpdatedInModel_.st R ScriptLoader50.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script50420.st A ScriptLoader50.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script50421.st R ScriptLoader50.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update50420.st A ScriptLoader50.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update50421.st M ScriptLoader50.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st M Spec-Core.package/RadioButtonGroup.class/definition.st M Spec-Core.package/RadioButtonGroup.class/instance/initialization/initialize.st A Spec-Core.package/RadioButtonGroup.class/instance/protocol-events/whenCanDeselectByClickChanged_.st M Spec-Core.package/RadioButtonGroup.class/instance/protocol/addRadioButton_.st A Spec-Core.package/RadioButtonGroup.class/instance/protocol/canDeselectByClick.st A Spec-Core.package/RadioButtonGroup.class/instance/protocol/canDeselectByClick_.st M Spec-Core.package/RadioButtonGroup.class/instance/protocol/default_.st R Spec-Core.package/RadioButtonGroup.class/instance/protocol/selectedButton.st M Spec-Core.package/RadioButtonModel.class/definition.st R Spec-Core.package/RadioButtonModel.class/instance/api/state_.st M Spec-Core.package/RadioButtonModel.class/instance/initialization/initialize.st A Spec-Core.package/RadioButtonModel.class/instance/protocol-events/whenCanDeselectByClickChanged_.st A Spec-Core.package/RadioButtonModel.class/instance/protocol/canDeselectByClick.st A Spec-Core.package/RadioButtonModel.class/instance/protocol/canDeselectByClick_.st A Spec-Core.package/RadioButtonModel.class/instance/protocol/state_.st M Spec-MorphicAdapters.package/MorphicTextAdapter.class/instance/spec protocol/selectAll.st M Spec-Tools.package/NewVersionBrowser.class/instance/instance creation/buildChangeList.st Log Message: ----------- 50421 16934 Some ImageForms become transparent when dragging them https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16934 16917 No way to prevent radio button from desactivating https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16917 16930 NewVersionBrowser: issue with browsing versions of class side methods https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16930 16706 TextModel with Rubric Widgets dont update TextModels selection https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16706 http://files.pharo.org/image/50/50421.zip

Nov. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is switch universe in Bloc?

by Aliaksei Syrel

:) Bloc is in rapid development. Api/logic changes dramatically, not all concepts still clear and Pharo dev list creates to many noise about Bloc. People will start thinking that it is done and will start using it. Then they will ask noob questions or point to something that does not work/not implemented and we know that it is not implemented. Then they may complain about lack of documentation and no examples and in the end they will end up with not the best impression of Bloc and will likely not accept it when it is done. Also it is always complicated to change/remove something that is in use. Pharo dev list is for "open-beta testing". Bloc list for "close testing". Having in a loop 10 people easier than 100-1000. Complains are acceptable ;) On Nov 6, 2015 11:15 AM, "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Why does it need a separate list ? > > If Bloc is/will become a fundamental part of Pharo it belongs to the > general dev list. > > > On 06 Nov 2015, at 11:07, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Marcus > > > > How much effort would it take to make Bloc list public? > > > > Cheers > > > > On Nov 5, 2015 3:22 PM, "Marcus Denker" <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > >> On 05 Nov 2015, at 09:54, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> Did you choose "Switch universe" or "Switch universe [OSWindow]"? > >> > >> I don't know about Linux but latest version of Brick with latest vm is > stable and confirmed to work on windows and Mac. > >> > >> P.S. For Bloc related stuff we have discussions-bloc(a)pharo.org > >> > > But this is a mailingst that is manually managed, if this is supposed to > be public we need to move to to Mailman. > > > > Marcus > > >

Nov. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is switch universe in Bloc?

by Torsten Bergmann

"Sven Van Caekenberghe" >Why does it need a separate list ? > >If Bloc is/will become a fundamental part of Pharo it belongs to the general dev list. +1000

Nov. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to declare a script variable to hold attribute value in jQuery seaside

by Johan Brichau

Hi Jayla, The script you generate executes an ajax call to the server to set the value of âdata-tabâ and the code after that call was generated with the value of âself tabIdâ at the time of generation (which was probably nil). Mind that unless you need the âdata-tabâ value on the server-side, it does not make sense to pass the value to the server, nor to generate this script with Seaside, but this should work: html document addLoadScript: ((html jQuery: 'ul.tabs li') onClick: (html jQuery ajax callback: [ :val | self tabId: val ] value: (html jQuery this attributeAt: 'data-tabâ); script: [:s | s << ((s jQuery: 'ul.tabs li') removeClass: 'current'), ((s jQuery: '.tab-content') removeClass: 'current'), (s jQuery this addClass: 'current'), ((s jQuery id: self tabId) addClass: 'currentâ)) ]). The important part to understand here is _when_ the script is generated. If it needs a value from the server, you can only generate it when the server has that value. Hope this helps, Johan > On 06 Nov 2015, at 04:02, Jayalakshmi Lade <jayalakshmi.lade(a)solteco.biz> wrote: > > Hi, > > I am new to jQuery in seaside and trying to convert the below jQuery script to seaside jQuery for activating tabs and to render the related data but on another tab click getting val as 'undefined'. > > jQuery script: > > $(document).ready(function(){ > > $('ul.tabs li').click(function(){ > var tab_id = $(this).attr('data-tab'); > > $('ul.tabs li').removeClass('current'); > $('.tab-content').removeClass('current'); > > $(this).addClass('current'); > $("#"+tab_id).addClass('current'); > }) > }) > > My Converted jQuery code in seaside: > > html document > addLoadScript: > ((html jQuery: 'ul.tabs li') > onClick: > (html jQuery ajax > callback: [ :val | self tabId: val ] > value: (html jQuery this attributeAt: 'data-tab')), > ((html jQuery: 'ul.tabs li') removeClass: 'current'), > ((html jQuery: '.tab-content') removeClass: 'current'), > (html jQuery this addClass: 'current'), > ((html jQuery id: self tabId) addClass: 'current')). > > > Please give me your valuable suggestions on this. > Thank you and looking forward for your reply. > > Regards, > > > Jaya L >

Nov. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is switch universe in Bloc?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Why does it need a separate list ? If Bloc is/will become a fundamental part of Pharo it belongs to the general dev list. > On 06 Nov 2015, at 11:07, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Marcus > > How much effort would it take to make Bloc list public? > > Cheers > > On Nov 5, 2015 3:22 PM, "Marcus Denker" <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> On 05 Nov 2015, at 09:54, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> Did you choose "Switch universe" or "Switch universe [OSWindow]"? >> >> I don't know about Linux but latest version of Brick with latest vm is stable and confirmed to work on windows and Mac. >> >> P.S. For Bloc related stuff we have discussions-bloc(a)pharo.org >> > But this is a mailingst that is manually managed, if this is supposed to be public we need to move to to Mailman. > > Marcus

Nov. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Flow layout for Bloc/Brick?

by Aliaksei Syrel

No :( For now ask here, maybe later Bloc list will become public On Nov 6, 2015 10:50 AM, "Stephan Eggermont" <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > Is there already a layout for Bloc/Brick that lays out submorphs > horizontally as long as they fit and then adds them on new lines? > > It is still unclear to me where Bloc/Brick questions should go. > > Stephan > > >

Nov. 6, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is switch universe in Bloc?

by Aliaksei Syrel

Hi Marcus How much effort would it take to make Bloc list public? Cheers On Nov 5, 2015 3:22 PM, "Marcus Denker" <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On 05 Nov 2015, at 09:54, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi > > Did you choose "Switch universe" or "Switch universe [OSWindow]"? > > I don't know about Linux but latest version of Brick with latest vm is > stable and confirmed to work on windows and Mac. > > P.S. For Bloc related stuff we have discussions-bloc(a)pharo.org > > But this is a mailingst that is manually managed, if this is supposed to > be public we need to move to to Mailman. > > Marcus >

Nov. 6, 2015