November 2015 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

About being a real Pharo Jedi developer

by stepharo

When I was getting to be a Jedi, my Yoda master (Joseph Pelrine) told me the following (yes back in 96) translated from Yoda language: you will be a real Jedi when your code will load in one click! you will be a real Jedi when your code will unload in one click and do not let shit behind it! Simple no. So when do we get real Jedi knights? Stef

Nov. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] EyeInspector with subclasses of ProtoObject

by Tudor Girba

I took the time today to dive into this part, so you could use me as well in the discussion. Cheers, Doru > On Nov 19, 2015, at 9:18 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > Hi guillermo > > I read the code long time ago and I'm busy with something else right now. > What is the API with Mirrors? > What is the corresponding Object API? > Do we remove the API of Object? > > We can talk about that tomorrow. > > Stef > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow."

Nov. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Hapao2>>addMethodEdges:scope:view MNU

by stepharo

Alex why do you know propose a configuration for Hapao that *AUTOMATICALLY* loads Spy2. Seriously I do not get it that you do not get that one click action is the only way to master complexity. Then you can publish the configuration into the metarepo and people can load it in one click. Stef Le 19/11/15 13:45, Alexandre Bergel a Ã©crit : > [ For people not aware of Hapao: Hapao is a visual test coverage tool for Pharo. More info on: http://bergel.eu/download/papers/Berg12c-HapaoSCP.pdf ] > > Hi Sheridan, > > How did you load Hapao? Roassal seems to be missing. The following should work: > > Gofer it > smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' project: 'Spy2'; > configurationOf: 'Spy2'; > loadStable. > > I can get the coverage of the class String. Here is the result by the way: > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31543901/TMP/StringCoverage/index.html > > Interesting to see that, despite all the unit test that uses String, String is not even 50% covered. I have attached the html coverage report to this email. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > >

Nov. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] ConfigurationOfIDE working again

by stepharo

Pavel may be you want to sync with christophe because he is working hard on getting the bootstrap working for real :) Then after we really want to load Pharo using configurations or cargo package manager. Once we will get done the configurations will be always checked. Stef Le 19/11/15 11:16, Pavel Krivanek a Ã©crit : > Hi, > > the job for ConfigurationOfIDE that loads GUI and tools (not all for > now) to minimal Pharo is now producing usable image again.: > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/5.0-SysConf/job/Pharo-5.0-ConfigurationOfIDE/ > > We definitely need to find a way how to keep it green and improve and > clean it instead of spending one forenoon once in a while by fixing it ;-) > > Cheers, > -- Pavel

Nov. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] News about FastTable

by stepharo

Big thanks to Synectique.eu to support your work and let you release it open-source Stef Le 18/11/15 10:53, Ferlicot D. Cyril a Ã©crit : > Hi everyone! > > I just wanted to say that I added a first version of Tree in FastTable > and I corrected some bugs. > > If someone want to try it and give some feedback you can see some > examples on the latest Pharo 5 in FTExamples class. > > With Usman we also worked on the glamour version of FastTable begun by > Esteban. > You can see some examples of FastList, FastTable, FastOutlineList and > FastTree in the GLMExamplesBrowser after executing this: > > (ConfigurationOfFastTable project version: #stable) load: #glamour > > Every feedback is welcome :) >

Nov. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] EyeInspector with subclasses of ProtoObject

by stepharo

Hi guillermo I read the code long time ago and I'm busy with something else right now. What is the API with Mirrors? What is the corresponding Object API? Do we remove the API of Object? We can talk about that tomorrow. Stef

Nov. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] EyeInspector with subclasses of ProtoObject

by stepharo

Guillermo knows them and uses them in all his PhD. It is not his point. He has question about the design induced by the use of Mirrors. Stef

Nov. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] EyeInspector with subclasses of ProtoObject

by stepharo

> Iâd like to discuss also the possibility to add those low level > operations on mirrors objects, that could be packaged separately from > the kernel of the language. +1 > Adding them on a first step is easy, then making all tools use them is > the hard/timeconsuming part, yes. >

Nov. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] empty Random package

by Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras

Pavel, here's the issue https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16361/There-are-some-empty-packages marcus's slice is there, you can checked it. On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > and Ring-ChangesExtensions... > > If you will find the cleanup code, plese post it here because as I found, > the shrinking process generates several empty packages too... > > Cheers, > -- Pavel > > 2015-11-19 20:35 GMT+01:00 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>: > >> Ok, Compression-Registration is empty too... >> >> Cheers, >> -- Pavel >> >> 2015-11-19 20:08 GMT+01:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> some time ago I added a slice that would just remove all empty packages >>> as part of >>> #cleanUpForRelease (which is called after every update on the CI). >>> >>> This was put on hold back then because some of the empty packages where >>> side-effects >>> of a bug, but that has been fixed in the meantime. >>> >>> I think I will look for the cleanup code and integrate it. >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> > On 19 Nov 2015, at 16:03, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > we have an empty package Random in the image. It was replaced by >>> Random-Core and Random-Tests. >>> > >>> > Cheers, >>> > -- Pavel >>> >>> >>> >> > -- Bernardo E.C. Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

Nov. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] empty Random package

by Pavel Krivanek

and Ring-ChangesExtensions... If you will find the cleanup code, plese post it here because as I found, the shrinking process generates several empty packages too... Cheers, -- Pavel 2015-11-19 20:35 GMT+01:00 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>: > Ok, Compression-Registration is empty too... > > Cheers, > -- Pavel > > 2015-11-19 20:08 GMT+01:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > >> Hi, >> >> some time ago I added a slice that would just remove all empty packages >> as part of >> #cleanUpForRelease (which is called after every update on the CI). >> >> This was put on hold back then because some of the empty packages where >> side-effects >> of a bug, but that has been fixed in the meantime. >> >> I think I will look for the cleanup code and integrate it. >> >> Marcus >> >> > On 19 Nov 2015, at 16:03, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > we have an empty package Random in the image. It was replaced by >> Random-Core and Random-Tests. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > -- Pavel >> >> >> >

Nov. 19, 2015