November 2015 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] About being a real Pharo Jedi developer

by Chris Muller

> translated from Yoda language: > > you will be a real Jedi when your code will load in one click! In Yoda grammar: "When, in one click, your code will load, then, and only then, a Jedi will you be..." :)

Nov. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] About being a real Pharo Jedi developer

by Dimitris Chloupis

I prefer being a technomage to a jedi, jedies are too, well naive and purists. By the way so how one can unload a project from the pharo image ? I never tried that one before. On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 10:59 PM stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > When I was getting to be a Jedi, my Yoda master (Joseph Pelrine) told me > the following (yes back in 96) > > translated from Yoda language: > > you will be a real Jedi when your code will load in one click! > you will be a real Jedi when your code will unload in one click and > do not let shit behind it! > > Simple no. So when do we get real Jedi knights? > > Stef > >

Nov. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] thanks for 17010

by Dimitris Chloupis

and I thank you for fixing the problem with the shortcuts in pharo 5 :) Ah the never ending game of seeking funds, sounds fun :D On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:12 PM stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > 50451 > 17010 MultistateButtonMorph to use announcement instead of > #triggerEvent: > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17010 > > I'm too busy running around like an idiot to find money for the future > (my real job in fact - I'm not a great scientist - I'm a excel budgeter) > but this is cool to see this happening. > > Thanks Henrik > > > >

Nov. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] ConfigurationOfIDE working again

by Pavel Krivanek

Hi Stef, 2015-11-19 21:44 GMT+01:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > Pavel > > may be you want to sync with christophe because he is working hard on > getting the bootstrap working for real :) > I already talked to him about a month ago to find out where can I help. Then after we really want to load Pharo using configurations or cargo > package manager. > Once we will get done the configurations will be always checked. > Some time ago I added a simple test that checked if the amount of unimplemented calls was increased in the minimal Pharo. If yes it cased the job failure. I expected that it will fail about once per month or two but in real Marcus complained up to two times per day that it generation of the minimal Pharo failed because of this check. It illustrates how sometimes hard is to keep things working in this area. We need to focus on it more to start to use the image building process based on configurations in production because with the current way we will have only very small progress with a lot of spent energy. Cheers, -- Pavel > Stef > > Le 19/11/15 11:16, Pavel Krivanek a Ã©crit : > > Hi, >> >> the job for ConfigurationOfIDE that loads GUI and tools (not all for now) >> to minimal Pharo is now producing usable image again.: >> >> >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/5.0-SysConf/job/Pharo-5.0-ConfigurationOfIDE/ >> >> We definitely need to find a way how to keep it green and improve and >> clean it instead of spending one forenoon once in a while by fixing it ;-) >> >> Cheers, >> -- Pavel >> > > >

Nov. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] News about FastTable

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Yes, this is nice, thanks guys. > On 19 Nov 2015, at 21:31, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > Big thanks to Synectique.eu to support your work and let you release it open-source > > Stef > > > Le 18/11/15 10:53, Ferlicot D. Cyril a Ã©crit : >> Hi everyone! >> >> I just wanted to say that I added a first version of Tree in FastTable >> and I corrected some bugs. >> >> If someone want to try it and give some feedback you can see some >> examples on the latest Pharo 5 in FTExamples class. >> >> With Usman we also worked on the glamour version of FastTable begun by >> Esteban. >> You can see some examples of FastList, FastTable, FastOutlineList and >> FastTree in the GLMExamplesBrowser after executing this: >> >> (ConfigurationOfFastTable project version: #stable) load: #glamour >> >> Every feedback is welcome :) >> > >

Nov. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] opal optimize to do limits

by stepharo

SSA form? Le 19/11/15 22:14, Nicolai Hess a Ã©crit : > What is the purpose of replacing expressions, used as limits in a > to:do: call with by a new temporary variable? > > For example: > > OCOpalExamples>>#exampleToDoArgumentLimitIsExpression > the code is > > exampleToDoArgumentLimitIsExpression > | count sum | > count := 10. > sum := 0. > 1 to: count - 1 do: [ :each | sum := sum + each]. > ^sum > > the decompiled bytecode : > > exampleToDoArgumentLimitIsExpression > | tmp1 tmp2 tmp3 | > tmp1 := 10. > tmp2 := 0. > tmp3 := tmp1 - 1. > 1 to: tmp3 do: [ :tmp4 | tmp2 := tmp2 + tmp4 ]. > ^ tmp2 > > So, the expression (count - 1) in the to:do: loop is replaced by a new > temporay (tmp3). > > Ok, but why ?

Nov. 19, 2015

opal optimize to do limits

by Nicolai Hess

What is the purpose of replacing expressions, used as limits in a to:do: call with by a new temporary variable? For example: OCOpalExamples>>#exampleToDoArgumentLimitIsExpression the code is exampleToDoArgumentLimitIsExpression | count sum | count := 10. sum := 0. 1 to: count - 1 do: [ :each | sum := sum + each]. ^sum the decompiled bytecode : exampleToDoArgumentLimitIsExpression | tmp1 tmp2 tmp3 | tmp1 := 10. tmp2 := 0. tmp3 := tmp1 - 1. 1 to: tmp3 do: [ :tmp4 | tmp2 := tmp2 + tmp4 ]. ^ tmp2 So, the expression (count - 1) in the to:do: loop is replaced by a new temporay (tmp3). Ok, but why ?

Nov. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] ubuntu ppa not up-to-date

by stepharo

+1 Le 16/11/15 19:52, Torsten Bergmann a Ã©crit : > Thanks a lot! > >> Gesendet: Montag, 16. November 2015 um 19:46 Uhr >> Von: "Markus Fritsche" <mfritsche(a)reauktion.de> >> An: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> >> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] ubuntu ppa not up-to-date >> >> Done! >> >> Am 16.11.2015 um 18:35 schrieb Markus Fritsche: >>> Hi Peter, hello list, >>> >>> I am going to update it today. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> Markus >> >> >

Nov. 19, 2015

thanks for 17010

by stepharo

50451 17010 MultistateButtonMorph to use announcement instead of #triggerEvent: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17010 I'm too busy running around like an idiot to find money for the future (my real job in fact - I'm not a great scientist - I'm a excel budgeter) but this is cool to see this happening. Thanks Henrik

Nov. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] empty Random package

by Marcus Denker

I am a bit lost what to do with that issue. People submitted more slices but than all activity stopped since end of August. > On 19 Nov 2015, at 16:59, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <vonbecmann(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Pavel, > here's the issue > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16361/There-are-some-empty-packages <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16361/There-are-some-empty-packages> > > marcus's slice is there, you can checked it. > > > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com <mailto:pavel.krivanek@gmail.com>> wrote: > and Ring-ChangesExtensions... > > If you will find the cleanup code, plese post it here because as I found, the shrinking process generates several empty packages too... > > Cheers, > -- Pavel > > 2015-11-19 20:35 GMT+01:00 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com <mailto:pavel.krivanek@gmail.com>>: > Ok, Compression-Registration is empty too... > > Cheers, > -- Pavel > > 2015-11-19 20:08 GMT+01:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>: > Hi, > > some time ago I added a slice that would just remove all empty packages as part of > #cleanUpForRelease (which is called after every update on the CI). > > This was put on hold back then because some of the empty packages where side-effects > of a bug, but that has been fixed in the meantime. > > I think I will look for the cleanup code and integrate it. > > Marcus > > > On 19 Nov 2015, at 16:03, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com <mailto:pavel.krivanek@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > we have an empty package Random in the image. It was replaced by Random-Core and Random-Tests. > > > > Cheers, > > -- Pavel > > > > > > > > -- > Bernardo E.C. > > Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

Nov. 19, 2015