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Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] The Trunk: Network-topa.166.mcz

by monty

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Oct. 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalkhub projects not indexed?

by Esteban A. Maringolo

2015-10-22 12:30 GMT-03:00 monty <monty2(a)programmer.net>: > Github is a private VC funded company that we don't own that tomorrow could go away or adopt policies harmful to us. If Ruby can have rubygems.org (and if Steph can continue to get funding from INRIA/ESUG), then why can't we have something like STHub that's ours? There is a confusion between "packaging" and "source management". Most "popular" languages have their own packaging system, in Ruby it is gem, in Node.js it is npm, Python has several. The closest to a package managment we have is Metacello with the MetaRepo. A different thing is the code management of those packages, and here it is where GitHub appears. Look for instance <https://rubygems.org/gems/json>, at at the same page the source code (and its website, docs, and other stuff) points to http://flori.github.com/json/ (GitHub). The same goes for Node, the Express package in npm <https://www.npmjs.com/package/express> hosts its code at <https://github.com/strongloop/express> We use the same thing for everything, when maybe we shouldn't. Esteban A. Maringolo

Oct. 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] The Trunk: Network-topa.166.mcz

by Henrik Johansen

> On 22 Oct 2015, at 5:35 , Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu> wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Oct 2015, Tobias Pape wrote: > >> Hi Marcus >> On 22.10.2015, at 16:44, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>>> On 22 Oct 2015, at 16:13, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thats what I thought. >>>>> Probably we want to present this (Mersenne PRNG + new UUID gen) to >>>>> the Pharo core developers (cc) so that we can just remove the UUID plugin >>>>> from the VMs (cc vm-dev)? >>>>> >>>> >>>> That sounds good! >>> >>> I added an issue tracker entry so we do not forget: >>> >>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16846/integrate-non-Plugin-UUIDGenerator-… >>> >> >> Is there any way to view those issues without creating a fogbugz account? > > No, there isn't. I guess it would be fairly easy to export all issues to a static website, but once you have an account, your interest in creating such site vanishes. :) > > Levente > >> >> best regards >> -Tobias = There's http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Issue-Tracker-f3456798.html <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Issue-Tracker-f3456798.html>, but there's both a delay, and it's a PITA to read without threading, so... Now if only source.squeak.org <http://source.squeak.org/> was up so it'd actually be possible to upgrade a Squeak image and check out the changes ;) Cheers, Henry

Oct. 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] The Trunk: Network-topa.166.mcz

by Levente Uzonyi

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015, Tobias Pape wrote: > Hi Marcus > On 22.10.2015, at 16:44, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >>> On 22 Oct 2015, at 16:13, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thats what I thought. >>>> Probably we want to present this (Mersenne PRNG + new UUID gen) to >>>> the Pharo core developers (cc) so that we can just remove the UUID plugin >>>> from the VMs (cc vm-dev)? >>>> >>> >>> That sounds good! >> >> I added an issue tracker entry so we do not forget: >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16846/integrate-non-Plugin-UUIDGenerator-… >> > > Is there any way to view those issues without creating a fogbugz account? No, there isn't. I guess it would be fairly easy to export all issues to a static website, but once you have an account, your interest in creating such site vanishes. :) Levente > > best regards > -Tobias = > > > >

Oct. 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] The Trunk: Network-topa.166.mcz

by Marcus Denker

> On 22 Oct 2015, at 17:26, Tobias Pape <Das.Linux(a)gmx.de> wrote: > > Hi Marcus > On 22.10.2015, at 16:44, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >>> On 22 Oct 2015, at 16:13, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thats what I thought. >>>> Probably we want to present this (Mersenne PRNG + new UUID gen) to >>>> the Pharo core developers (cc) so that we can just remove the UUID plugin >>>> from the VMs (cc vm-dev)? >>>> >>> >>> That sounds good! >> >> I added an issue tracker entry so we do not forget: >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16846/integrate-non-Plugin-UUIDGenerator-… >> > > Is there any way to view those issues without creating a fogbugz account? > Sadly not. Just for that it was a mistake to use FogBugz. But moving now is difficult. Marcus

Oct. 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalkhub projects not indexed?

by monty

Github is a private VC funded company that we don't own that tomorrow could go away or adopt policies harmful to us. If Ruby can have rubygems.org (and if Steph can continue to get funding from INRIA/ESUG), then why can't we have something like STHub that's ours? Sent:Â Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 11:19 AM From:Â "Alexandre Bergel" <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> To:Â "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> Subject:Â Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalkhub projects not indexed? On Oct 22, 2015, at 12:09 PM, monty <monty2(a)programmer.net> wrote:Â SmalltalkHub looks great but lacks the features of SqueakSource3. It would be great if we could switch the backend to SS3 while keeping the look of STHub.Â Having a reliable solution on GitHub will be even better in my opinion. Moreover, it will reveal that Pharo is within the top 20-languages. Â Alexandre

Oct. 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalkhub projects not indexed?

by Esteban A. Maringolo

2015-10-22 12:19 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > On Oct 22, 2015, at 12:09 PM, monty <monty2(a)programmer.net> wrote: > > SmalltalkHub looks great but lacks the features of SqueakSource3. It would > be great if we could switch the backend to SS3 while keeping the look of > STHub. > > > Having a reliable solution on GitHub will be even better in my opinion. > Moreover, it will reveal that Pharo is within the top 20-languages. +1

Oct. 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] The Trunk: Network-topa.166.mcz

by Tobias Pape

Hi Marcus On 22.10.2015, at 16:44, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> On 22 Oct 2015, at 16:13, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> >>> >>> Thats what I thought. >>> Probably we want to present this (Mersenne PRNG + new UUID gen) to >>> the Pharo core developers (cc) so that we can just remove the UUID plugin >>> from the VMs (cc vm-dev)? >>> >> >> That sounds good! > > I added an issue tracker entry so we do not forget: > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16846/integrate-non-Plugin-UUIDGenerator-… > Is there any way to view those issues without creating a fogbugz account? best regards -Tobias =

Oct. 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalkhub projects not indexed?

by Alexandre Bergel

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 12:09 PM, monty <monty2(a)programmer.net> wrote: > > SmalltalkHub looks great but lacks the features of SqueakSource3. It would be great if we could switch the backend to SS3 while keeping the look of STHub. Having a reliable solution on GitHub will be even better in my opinion. Moreover, it will reveal that Pharo is within the top 20-languages. Alexandre

Oct. 22, 2015

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by stepharo

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Oct. 22, 2015