January 2015 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Why this hangs the VM?

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Behavior basicNew basicNew. Class basicNew basicNew. No .log is generated Applies to Pharo4 #40460 and Pharo 3.0 (Windows 8.1) Cheers, HernÃ¡n

Jan. 25, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] HELP WANTED: improve Dark Theme

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! It would be great to have a good dark theme. There is a bit of theory behind about how to choose a nice color schema. It would be _great_ that the crew behind this effort have a look at it. Here is a set of colors that works well for the dark theme. The code highlighter may greatly benefit from it. http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized It even works well for the white theme. Cheers, Alexandre NB: Thanks to Damien Pollet for the Solarized link! > On Jan 23, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > The Dark Theme is a standard theme upcoming in Pharo4, but as you might noticed, is still far from perfect. > I would like to take some actions on it but I do not have a lot of time this days, so I thought on asking for help :) > > What I think is needed? > > 1) There are some bugs (for example in the search window, cmd+f in text panes) > 2) Icon-set is not prepared for dark backgrounds. Now, this is a problem in eclipse itself who didnât had a dark-theme either until recently. Now, I know they added a dark-theme and a corresponding set of icons (a set that can be displayed correctly both in white and black backgrounds), but I cannot find the icons. So if someone knows where they are, Iâll gladly replace them. > I know in an ideal world we will have our own set of icons, but that requires a lot of effort and design talentâ¦ so in the mean time, I think eclipse icons are doing a good job :) > > cheers, > Esteban -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue 12970 - 16 steps to get through #halt - PROPOSED FIX

by Sean P. DeNigris

Ben Coman wrote > Anyone see a problem with removing > that last condition? Off the top of my head... Yes that doesn't seem like a good idea. You don't want to find yourself inside Halt. You want to be in your code. Although the change makes this weird exceptional-sounding case better, it looks like a hack that will make halts more annoying in general. The question is why you end up deeply buried in the internals of Halt and how to prevent that in this odd case. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Issue-12970-16-steps-to-get-through-halt-PROPOSED-FIX… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] HELP WANTED: improve Dark Theme

by stepharo

Le 23/1/15 13:30, Aliaksei Syrel a Ã©crit : > > 3) Fix spotter theming (currently ignores dark theme) > > > I added DarkTheme to spotter. Update to check and you can also take a > look how theming mechanism works in GT. > There is UITheme>>spotterWidgetThemer that returns themer object for > Spotter and to add custom theme she needs to override it in her own > theme like it is done in Pharo3DarkTheme>>spotterWidgetThemer. > It allows to customize widgets deeply and reduces mess in themes :) Well we will see because with themes.... the problem is the scale and variations. So this is good to have a real experience with GT. I did some brainstorming to see what could be a good architecture this summer but not enough time to get through and compare with the solution of doru. > > Cheers, > Alex > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:19 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com > <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I think roassal can do that > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Esteban Lorenzano > <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: > > >> On 23 Jan 2015, at 12:53, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de >> <mailto:astares@gmx.de>> wrote: >> >> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=385003 >> https://code.google.com/p/eclipse-svg-icons/ > > cool! > now I have to figure out how to display svg icons in pharoâ¦ > but this is what I was looking for :) > > Esteban > >> >> >>> Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Januar 2015 um 12:24 Uhr >>> Von: "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <sven(a)stfx.eu >>> <mailto:sven@stfx.eu>> >>> An: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org >>> <mailto:pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org>> >>> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] HELP WANTED: improve Dark Theme >>> >>> >>>> On 23 Jan 2015, at 12:03, Esteban Lorenzano >>>> <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> The Dark Theme is a standard theme upcoming in Pharo4, but >>>> as you might noticed, is still far from perfect. >>>> I would like to take some actions on it but I do not have a >>>> lot of time this days, so I thought on asking for help :) >>>> >>>> What I think is needed? >>>> >>>> 1) There are some bugs (for example in the search window, >>>> cmd+f in text panes) >>>> 2) Icon-set is not prepared for dark backgrounds. Now, this >>>> is a problem in eclipse itself who didnât had a dark-theme >>>> either until recently. Now, I know they added a dark-theme >>>> and a corresponding set of icons (a set that can be >>>> displayed correctly both in white and black backgrounds), >>>> but I cannot find the icons. So if someone knows where they >>>> are, Iâll gladly replace them. >>> >>> 3) Fix spotter theming (currently ignores dark theme) >>> >>>> I know in an ideal world we will have our own set of icons, >>>> but that requires a lot of effort and design talentâ¦ so in >>>> the mean time, I think eclipse icons are doing a good job :) >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> Esteban >>> >>> >>> >> > > >

Jan. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo and X11 primary selection (aka middle mouse button paste)

by stepharo

It is ok :) We are concerned by such problems (and also frustrated). Le 20/1/15 14:57, Pieter Nagel a Ã©crit : > Sorry, wrong mailing list, will take this to pharo-users. > > >

Jan. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [FUN] SNCF (french railways) is doing "Pharo"

by stepharo

I have this little one physically on my desk :) Le 21/1/15 17:43, Noury Bouraqadi a Ã©crit : > See the adertisement I received :-) > > Noury

Jan. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo-contribution CI out of space?

by stepharo

Thanks Paul. Stef Le 21/1/15 02:36, Paul DeBruicker a Ã©crit : > Stephan Eggermont wrote >> Who is dealing with CI? The queue is still growing and nothing seems to >> finish. >> >> Stephan >> >> Jenkins tells me there are only 4 jobs using any significant amount of >> space: >> - FileTree-Pharo30-dev, >> - Fuel-Stable >> - Fuel-Development >> - PharoProjectCatalog2 >> >> The total is 43GB, so actually peanuts. >> >> Jobs:43 GB, Builds:43 GB, Locked builds:10 GB, Workspace:21 GB >> >> FileTree-Pharo30-dev 6 GB 6 GB 4 GB 196 MB >> Fuel-Stable 6 GB 6 GB 251 MB 338 MB >> Fuel-Development 5 GB 5 GB 363 MB 12 KB >> PharoProjectCatalog2 5 GB 5 GB 449 MB - >> Fuel-Serialize-All 1 GB 1 GB - - >> Versionner 710 MB 710 MB 494 MB 119 MB >> ... > > In November 2013 the config of FileTree-Pharo30-dev was set by Camillo to > keep every 10th build no matter what, and to keep every buildd for the past > 30 days. And to run every day. > > At this point in time it seems especially excessive because no one is fixing > the failing tests on Pharo 3 latest when loading FileTree from > SqueakSource3. > > > I've changed it to only keep the past 3 builds, and only build when either > Pharo3 latest is updated or the FileTree repo on SqueakSource 3 is updated. > > It could probably be deleted entirely. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/pharo-contribution-CI-out-of-space-tp4800325p4800748.… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Jan. 24, 2015

[pharo-project/pharo-core] d22e5b: 40460

by GitHub

Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: d22e5ba6338767a899fbdeac270e35d8a1995d12 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/d22e5ba6338767a899fbdeac… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2015-01-24 (Sat, 24 Jan 2015) Changed paths: M Monticello.package/MCClassDefinition.class/instance/installing/load.st M Monticello.package/MCClassDefinition.class/instance/printing/classInstanceVariables.st M Monticello.package/MCClassDefinition.class/instance/printing/classVariables.st M Monticello.package/MCClassDefinition.class/instance/printing/instanceVariables.st A ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script460.st A ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update40460.st M ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st Log Message: ----------- 40460 14769 final MCClassDefinition>>#load simplification https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14769 http://files.pharo.org/image/40/40460.zip

Jan. 24, 2015

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

by GitHub

Branch: refs/tags/40460 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Jan. 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Pharo Morphic book

by kilon alios

I absolutely agree that incremental is the way to go, I am slow doer anyway ;) On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 9:26 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > Le 19/1/15 22:21, kilon alios a Ã©crit : > > Ok then I think the best way to do this is to start this in my own github > account then give you guys the link , review the documentation and if you > find satisfying add it to SquareBracketAssociates via forking it, if not I > can still continue it with my github account. Of course I will use pillar > and follow the same workflow as PBE. I don't want to do this via blog posts > , I prefer pillar and github. > > We can create a repo on > > > PBE wise looks like from what I see from a first look that 12 out 16 > chapters are ported. So PBE is near completion at least at a draft level. I > can give a hand with a couple more chapters thats not a big deal. > > Thanks. We will have to read it again. I have to check (I got stuck in the > model chapter and the first one). > > There is no Pharo book for Morphic and for me this is a big omission. > Frankly I would take even a small docs about Morphic and Pharo 3/4 over no > documentation at all, any day. > > > Sure > Just read what I said. > Go incremental. > > I am not saying that you should contribute to a Morphic book I mean this > is your choice but its something I want to work on. If people want to > contribute all they have to do is fork my repo and send me pull requests or > even add them as contributors. If they dont want, no problemo I continue > alone. > > In any case when I have something substantial (something more than 30 > pages) I will alert the list. > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:31 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> >> Hello people, I am really interested since PBE seems to go very well to >>> now concentrate on a project I had in mind for some time and it is to start >>> a book on Pharo Morphic. >>> >> >> I would start small and for example as a series of blog posts. >> Then we you reach a certain amount I would then turn them into a book. >> >> For Spec we plan to collect all the material and have a small booklet. >> >> >>> My plan is to add it to github group SquareBracketAssociates which I am >>> member of for contributing to the new PBE. >>> >>> Is that ok with you ? >>> >> >> it is ok but now the strategy I adopted is the following one: >> - avoid to have many unfinished books (or many not making progress or >> slow progress) >> - this is why I have work in progress to work on the chapters, ready >> for reviews then the chapters will populate the books >> - this way I do not give the impression that Pharo is starting stuff >> and not finishing >> - I would suggest the same: host some chapter in the work in progress >> and when you enough push that to a book. >> >> I finished an editorial pass on deep into pharo and will continue to work >> on Pharo by example, then resume my work on >> the other books (slow is n't it :)). >> >> >>> I will try to port all documentation available already for Morphic from >>> self and squeak to Pharo 4 and of course add my own pages as well. >>> >> There is not much available, or exciting but you can start there. >> >> >> I also have forgot my travis password, I have asked here before but none >>> replied, so if anyone can help me recover my password or create a new one >>> or create a job for the project , I will appreciate it. >>> >> >> travis I do not know. >> >> >>> Obviously I want to make this project according to the guidelines of the >>> community. So if you have suggestions fire away :) >>> >>> I would like this to be the official book on Morphic , I want it to be >>> both a tutorial but also a reference book with more emphasis on the >>> reference side. Probably will divide in into a Part 1 and a Part 2 where >>> Part 1 is the tutorial and Part 2 is the reference. >>> >>> I dont expect to of course to do a ton of work and finish this book any >>> time soon, but then something is better than nothing. >>> >> >> >> > >

Jan. 24, 2015