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Sept. 12, 2014

[pharo-project/pharo-core] c58635: 40224

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Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: c58635333b230d32651bc1db0ec6db10b4984073 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/c58635333b230d32651bc1db… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2014-09-12 (Fri, 12 Sep 2014) Changed paths: R DebuggerFilters.package/FilterTest.class/README.md R DebuggerFilters.package/FilterTest.class/definition.st R DebuggerFilters.package/FilterTest.class/instance/running/setUp.st R DebuggerFilters.package/FilterTest.class/instance/tests/testBlockFilter.st R DebuggerFilters.package/FilterTest.class/instance/tests/testBooleanFilter.st R DebuggerFilters.package/FilterTest.class/instance/tests/testKernelClassesFilter.st R DebuggerFilters.package/FilterTest.class/instance/tests/testSelectorFilter.st A DebuggerTests.package/FilterTest.class/README.md A DebuggerTests.package/FilterTest.class/definition.st A DebuggerTests.package/FilterTest.class/instance/running/setUp.st A DebuggerTests.package/FilterTest.class/instance/tests/testBlockFilter.st A DebuggerTests.package/FilterTest.class/instance/tests/testBooleanFilter.st A DebuggerTests.package/FilterTest.class/instance/tests/testKernelClassesFilter.st A DebuggerTests.package/FilterTest.class/instance/tests/testSelectorFilter.st M Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGBehaviorDefinition.class/instance/accessing class hierarchy/allSuperclassesDo_.st M Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGBehaviorDefinition.class/instance/accessing/superclass_.st M Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGCommentDefinition.class/instance/type of comments/fromActiveToPassive.st M Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGElementDefinition.class/class/parsing stamp/basicParseAuthorAliasFrom_.st M Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGElementDefinition.class/class/parsing stamp/parseTimestampFrom_default_.st M Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGMethodDefinition.class/instance/conversion/asStringOrText.st M Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGMethodDefinition.class/instance/type of methods/fromActiveToPassive.st R Ring-Core-Kernel.package/RGObject.class/instance/testing types/isClass.st M Ring-Core-Kernel.package/extension/Class/instance/asRingDefinitionWithMethods_withSuperclasses_withSubclasses_withPackageKeys_in_.st A ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script224.st A ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update40224.st M ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st M Spec-Layout.package/SpecLayout.class/instance/converting/asArray.st M System-Announcements.package/MethodModified.class/instance/accessing/newMethod_.st Log Message: ----------- 40224 14000 FilterTest needs to be moved to a Debugger test package https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14000 14004 SpecLayout>>asArray(result is shadowed) https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14004 14001 MethodModified>>newMethod: (newMethod is Undeclared) https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14001 14010 Small code critics clean of Ring https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14010 http://files.pharo.org/image/40/40224.zip

Sept. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] GToolkit

by Andrei Chis

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 6:29 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > maybe make a video and upload to youtube of your workflow , I am sure I > will learn something from it :) > +1 > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:14 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > wrote: > >> I've been working in a data acquisition scenario today and GToolkit >> proved to be of immense help. >> >> Working in the live application, looking around for data (including file >> contents), and inspecting it all + live debugging is really a sweet >> experience. >> >> With CommandShell I may not have to leave the environment... >> >> >> Phil >> > >

Sept. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Roassal vs Roassal 2

by kilon alios

wow 500.000 is a huge number for my needs. How about animation ? I assume its similar situation there too. Well then I have little reason not to use it. Hopefully I will make a few contributions too :) When I first used Roassal I was sceptical on its design , but now that I see more and more people using it and more documentation about it I see its going to a direction I wanted to go. I also see that Roassal works well with Morphic and Spec which is very good too for my needs. Great job ! Should ask questions here or in stackoverflow ? On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi! > > Currently Roassal2 _does not have any optimization_, which does not imply > Roassal2 is slow. You can easily have 500 000 elements on screen without > having much lag. > > In the future, we should be able to plug QuadTree in Roassal2. But > currently, nothing has been done in that respect (except keeping the core > of Roassal clean and lean :-). > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > On Sep 12, 2014, at 1:32 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > yes I am using Roassal 2 now , I also care a lot about the performance > cause of my project Hyperion which is and going to be a GUI builder and > vector editor , I want to make GUIs with Roassal so performance is an > issue. I am studying the examples and I will return with questions. The SVG > import and export is certainly very useful for my needs. > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Alejandro Infante < > alejandroinfante91(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I also advice you to use Roassal2, it is much faster and you can do more >> fun stuff. About documentation there are also the examples, with >> right-click you can see the code needed to create each example. >> >> Cheers, >> Alejandro >> >> On Sep 10, 2014, at 8:05 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> thank you both for your help, I have installed Roassal 2 in Pharo 3 and >> it works fine judging from examples so now I will study the doc from the >> Peter's link and the examples Phil referred to. >> >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> A new book is being written by Alexandre. You can find it at >>> http://agilevisualization.com/ >>> Also there is about hundred examples in the Roassal2 repository. (Open >>> "Roassal examples" browser from world menu.) >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:14 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Prefixing with RT (Roassal Two) instead of RO (ROassal) will get you >>>> started. >>>> >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:06 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I see in the roassal.pdf that it refers to roassal but in smalltalkhub >>>>> there is also Roassal 2. Which of the two I should be using and whats their >>>>> diffirence ? Will the existing roassal.pdf documentation work with Roassal >>>>> 2 ? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >

Sept. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Roassal vs Roassal 2

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! Currently Roassal2 _does not have any optimization_, which does not imply Roassal2 is slow. You can easily have 500 000 elements on screen without having much lag. In the future, we should be able to plug QuadTree in Roassal2. But currently, nothing has been done in that respect (except keeping the core of Roassal clean and lean :-). Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. On Sep 12, 2014, at 1:32 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > yes I am using Roassal 2 now , I also care a lot about the performance cause of my project Hyperion which is and going to be a GUI builder and vector editor , I want to make GUIs with Roassal so performance is an issue. I am studying the examples and I will return with questions. The SVG import and export is certainly very useful for my needs. > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Alejandro Infante <alejandroinfante91(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I also advice you to use Roassal2, it is much faster and you can do more fun stuff. About documentation there are also the examples, with right-click you can see the code needed to create each example. > > Cheers, > Alejandro > > On Sep 10, 2014, at 8:05 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> thank you both for your help, I have installed Roassal 2 in Pharo 3 and it works fine judging from examples so now I will study the doc from the Peter's link and the examples Phil referred to. >> >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> A new book is being written by Alexandre. You can find it at http://agilevisualization.com/ >> Also there is about hundred examples in the Roassal2 repository. (Open "Roassal examples" browser from world menu.) >> >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:14 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: >> Prefixing with RT (Roassal Two) instead of RO (ROassal) will get you started. >> >> Phil >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:06 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I see in the roassal.pdf that it refers to roassal but in smalltalkhub there is also Roassal 2. Which of the two I should be using and whats their diffirence ? Will the existing roassal.pdf documentation work with Roassal 2 ? >> >> >> > >

Sept. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Roassal vs Roassal 2

by kilon alios

yes I am using Roassal 2 now , I also care a lot about the performance cause of my project Hyperion which is and going to be a GUI builder and vector editor , I want to make GUIs with Roassal so performance is an issue. I am studying the examples and I will return with questions. The SVG import and export is certainly very useful for my needs. On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Alejandro Infante < alejandroinfante91(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I also advice you to use Roassal2, it is much faster and you can do more > fun stuff. About documentation there are also the examples, with > right-click you can see the code needed to create each example. > > Cheers, > Alejandro > > On Sep 10, 2014, at 8:05 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > thank you both for your help, I have installed Roassal 2 in Pharo 3 and it > works fine judging from examples so now I will study the doc from the > Peter's link and the examples Phil referred to. > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> A new book is being written by Alexandre. You can find it at >> http://agilevisualization.com/ >> Also there is about hundred examples in the Roassal2 repository. (Open >> "Roassal examples" browser from world menu.) >> >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:14 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> >> wrote: >> >>> Prefixing with RT (Roassal Two) instead of RO (ROassal) will get you >>> started. >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:06 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I see in the roassal.pdf that it refers to roassal but in smalltalkhub >>>> there is also Roassal 2. Which of the two I should be using and whats their >>>> diffirence ? Will the existing roassal.pdf documentation work with Roassal >>>> 2 ? >>>> >>> >>> >> > >

Sept. 12, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] GToolkit

by kilon alios

maybe make a video and upload to youtube of your workflow , I am sure I will learn something from it :) On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:14 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > I've been working in a data acquisition scenario today and GToolkit proved > to be of immense help. > > Working in the live application, looking around for data (including file > contents), and inspecting it all + live debugging is really a sweet > experience. > > With CommandShell I may not have to leave the environment... > > > Phil >

Sept. 12, 2014

GToolkit

by phil＠highoctane.be

I've been working in a data acquisition scenario today and GToolkit proved to be of immense help. Working in the live application, looking around for data (including file contents), and inspecting it all + live debugging is really a sweet experience. With CommandShell I may not have to leave the environment... Phil

Sept. 12, 2014

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 29f280: 40223

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Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 29f280e791381e9a5027e10a7d80a921e199fba4 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/29f280e791381e9a5027e10a… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2014-09-12 (Fri, 12 Sep 2014) Changed paths: M ClassOrganizer-Core.package/ClassOrganization.class/instance/backward compatibility/categoryOfElement_.st A ClassOrganizer-Core.package/ClassOrganization.class/instance/backward compatibility/categoryOfElement_ifAbsent_.st M ClassOrganizer-Core.package/ClassOrganization.class/instance/backward compatibility/classify_under_suppressIfDefault_.st M ClassOrganizer-Tests.package/ClassOrganizationTest.class/definition.st M ClassOrganizer-Tests.package/ClassOrganizationTest.class/instance/running/setUp.st A ClassOrganizer-Tests.package/ClassOrganizationTest.class/instance/running/tearDown.st M Refactoring-Environment.package/RBBrowserEnvironment.class/instance/accessing/whichProtocolIncludes_in_.st A ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script223.st A ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update40223.st M ScriptLoader40.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st Log Message: ----------- 40223 13924 Adding a new method to a trait triggers a MethodRecategorized announcement for each user https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13924 http://files.pharo.org/image/40/40223.zip

Sept. 12, 2014

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/40223 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Sept. 12, 2014