August 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] No projects on StHub?

by Esteban Lorenzano

On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:17, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this. yeah, in the medium term, this is going to be the best path. We are working on provide better tools for using git and we feel this is the best path for pharo, in the no so far future :) (and honestly, I prefer to spend my time maintaining pharo and not smalltalkhub :P) Esteban > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features. > > Uko > > > On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent. >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them). >> >> Uko >> > >

Aug. 4, 2014

Moving to GitHub

by Yuriy Tymchuk

You donât have to. Just keep your configuration (here is a guide how to do it http://sleepycoders.blogspot.ch/2014/04/how-to-distribute-your-github-pharo…) on some monticello repo, and assemble your image on CI. Yes, if someone wantâs to modify your project they have to use git, but as far as I know, Pharo is slowly moving git way anyway :) Cheers. Uko On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:17, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this. > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features. > > Uko > > > On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent. >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them). >> >> Uko >> > >

Aug. 4, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] No projects on StHub?

by Esteban Lorenzano

On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:16, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > > On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:09, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> something is going bad with smalltalkhub, it is working in *really* slow motion, with a lot of packet loss, etc. > > I think it just misses Nico badly :). :) > >> Iâm trying to figure out what is happening, but not sure how much time it will take. >> Iâm sorry for the inconveniences :P > > Itâs ok (not really ok, but I was worried that everything is working fine, just my projects disappeared). in the mean time, I restored your projects (but is still working slow without any obvious reason) Esteban > > Good luck! > Uko > >> >> Esteban >> >> On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:03, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: >> >>> Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features. >>> >>> Uko >>> >>> On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them). >>>> >>>> Uko >>>> >>> >> >

Aug. 4, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] No projects on StHub?

by kilon alios

yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have > configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs > a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my > configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are > configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here > reliability is much more important then other features. > > Uko > > > On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent. > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my >> SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects >> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them). >> >> Uko >> > > >

Aug. 4, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] No projects on StHub?

by Yuriy Tymchuk

On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:09, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > something is going bad with smalltalkhub, it is working in *really* slow motion, with a lot of packet loss, etc. I think it just misses Nico badly :). > Iâm trying to figure out what is happening, but not sure how much time it will take. > Iâm sorry for the inconveniences :P Itâs ok (not really ok, but I was worried that everything is working fine, just my projects disappeared). Good luck! Uko > > Esteban > > On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:03, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > >> Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features. >> >> Uko >> >> On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them). >>> >>> Uko >>> >> >

Aug. 4, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] No projects on StHub?

by Esteban Lorenzano

something is going bad with smalltalkhub, it is working in *really* slow motion, with a lot of packet loss, etc. Iâm trying to figure out what is happening, but not sure how much time it will take. Iâm sorry for the inconveniences :P Esteban On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:03, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features. > > Uko > > On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent. >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them). >> >> Uko >> >

Aug. 4, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] No projects on StHub?

by Yuriy Tymchuk

Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features. Uko On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent. > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them). > > Uko >

Aug. 4, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] No projects on StHub?

by kilon alios

oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my > SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them). > > Uko >

Aug. 4, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Can forking speed up anything?

by kilon alios

threads generally slow things down. Pharo uses green threads so it does not take advantage of multiple cores. You can take advantage of multiple cores by having multiple instances of the Pharo executable running and have them communicate via sockets, pipes , shared memory etc. Some calculations / processing can also benefit from GPU acceleration , if you feel really adventurous, GPUs dont only offer concurrent coding but also speed boost compared to cpu can be anything between 8x to 100x times. Of course far less straightforward than a simple fork and it wont benefit any case scenario. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have a script that runs very slow and does a lot of non dependent > operation of a collection. I wander if I can speed it up by making it run > in another process, because as far as I understand everything runs on a > single thread, so I guess this wonât save me. > > Uko >

Aug. 4, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Can forking speed up anything?

by Yuriy Tymchuk

On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:38, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 2014-08-04 10:17 GMT+02:00 Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com>: > Hi guys, > > I have a script that runs very slow and does a lot of non dependent operation of a collection. I wander if I can speed it up by making it run in another process, because as far as I understand everything runs on a single thread, so I guess this wonât save me. > Thanks, I know about this, The problem is exactly that Iâm wrapping whole hierarchies in my own objects because I need that. Anyway thank you! Uko > I don't think forking can speed up anything. > > Usually the best solution is to profile your operation with the Profiler, then implement differently costly operations, either by removing object/block creations in smalltalk if this is possible, else by implementing costly operations in C and bind them like that: > http://clementbera.wordpress.com/2013/06/19/optimizing-pharo-to-c-speed-wit… > > > > > Uko >

Aug. 4, 2014