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Re: [Pharo-dev] Substitution of ' to " in TextEditor>>shiftEnclose

by Eliot Miranda

On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Nicolas Cellier < nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I encountered this in Squeak too, because French keyboard is not better > than german one :( > > Nicolas Cellier uploaded a new version of ST80 to project The Trunk: > http://source.squeak.org/trunk/ST80-nice.136.mcz > > ==================== Summary ==================== > > Name: ST80-nice.136 > Author: nice > Time: 4 August 2011, 10:43:00.836 am > UUID: 6f8b2f4c-8c8c-48a8-ba32- > bb5b37d827d0 > Ancestors: ST80-ul.135 > > #shiftEnclose: is hardcoding the keyboard layout, which is not compatible > with foreign keyboards and modern VM, and prevents correct enclosing to > work. > +1. This is the issue that must be fixed. It must be understood properly (is the VM answering adequate information or not?). > > This version rather use a normal #enclose: > A (ParagraphEditor initialize) postscrip is necessary. > > =============== Diff against ST80-ul.135 =============== > > > > 2014-08-27 17:11 GMT+02:00 Max Bareis <max.bareis(a)me.com>: > > >> >> > >> > I am curious, because this substitution does not make any sense to >> > me. The keyCharacter is always the "real" character ( $( instead >> > of $9 ). Also it seems that this substitution reduces the keyboard >> > to the en-Layout, therefore breaks the separation of concerns. >> > >> > >> > >> > I hope this gets resolved, as it is really annoying with a german >> > Keyboard. >> > >> > And look at the issues: >> > 11436 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11436> and >> > 4646 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?4646> >> > >> >Should the core team take action? >> > >> >Stef >> >> For me, there is no urgency. I sent it to the mailing list, because I used >> the wrong words for the issue search and didn't find any issue. As it is >> already on the issue list and I have a workaround (replacing the method in >> my download bash file for zeroconf) it is ok. >> >> Max >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/Substitution-of-to-in-TextEditor-shiftEnclose-tp47750… >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at >> Nabble.com. >> >> > -- best, Eliot

Aug. 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] still getting vm bug...

by Esteban Lorenzano

oopsâ¦ thatâs what happens when you answer a mail the next minute you wake up ;P you need to use the latest vm: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/mac/latest.zip I need to promote it as stable, but still some problems to be sorted (that should not be relevant for you), and I didnât find the time :( Esteban On 28 Aug 2014, at 08:55, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: > Hi Esteban, > > As mentioned: latest download of Mac OS X Pharo vm (from website) and itâs also in the screenshot as reported by System Reporter in Pharo: > > Virtual Machine > --------------- > /Applications/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid: acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014 > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid: acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014 > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: ed4a4f59208968a21d82fd2406f75c2c4de558b2 Date: 2014-05-15 18:23:04 +0200 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14826 > > Mac Cocoa Cog 5.8b12 21-Sep-10 >1B0534FA-246C-47C5-AB29-7A76C81CCDCB< > VMMaker versionString https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: ed4a4f59208968a21d82fd2406f75c2c4de558b2 Date: 2014-05-15 18:23:04 +0200 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14826 > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid: acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014 > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid: acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014 > > > On 28 Aug 2014, at 08:50, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> which vm are you using? >> >> On 28 Aug 2014, at 08:48, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am still getting the vm bug mentioned here: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11130#103698 >>> See screenshot: in my case, loading from filetree almost always throws the bug. I am using the latest Mac OS X pharo vm. >>> >>> If I change the method in the screenshot by extracting the assignment into a separate statement, the problem disappears. >>> >>> However, I can also still reproduce it reliably with Krisâ code snippet from the same issue thread: >>> >>> 1 to: 1000 do: [ :i | >>> | string | >>> Transcript show: 'Iteration '; show: i; cr. >>> 1 timesRepeat: [ >>> (string := String new: 1000 withAll: $a) >>> reversed. >>> ]. >>> ]. >>> >>> (NOTE: Transcript must be open!) >>> >>> Reopen? Add a new report? >>> >>> Johan >>> >>> <Screen Shot 2014-08-28 at 08.36.24.png> >> >

Aug. 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] still getting vm bug...

by Johan Brichau

Hi Esteban, As mentioned: latest download of Mac OS X Pharo vm (from website) and itâs also in the screenshot as reported by System Reporter in Pharo: Virtual Machine --------------- /Applications/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid: acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid: acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: ed4a4f59208968a21d82fd2406f75c2c4de558b2 Date: 2014-05-15 18:23:04 +0200 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14826 Mac Cocoa Cog 5.8b12 21-Sep-10 >1B0534FA-246C-47C5-AB29-7A76C81CCDCB< VMMaker versionString https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: ed4a4f59208968a21d82fd2406f75c2c4de558b2 Date: 2014-05-15 18:23:04 +0200 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14826 NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid: acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid: acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014 On 28 Aug 2014, at 08:50, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > which vm are you using? > > On 28 Aug 2014, at 08:48, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am still getting the vm bug mentioned here: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11130#103698 >> See screenshot: in my case, loading from filetree almost always throws the bug. I am using the latest Mac OS X pharo vm. >> >> If I change the method in the screenshot by extracting the assignment into a separate statement, the problem disappears. >> >> However, I can also still reproduce it reliably with Krisâ code snippet from the same issue thread: >> >> 1 to: 1000 do: [ :i | >> | string | >> Transcript show: 'Iteration '; show: i; cr. >> 1 timesRepeat: [ >> (string := String new: 1000 withAll: $a) >> reversed. >> ]. >> ]. >> >> (NOTE: Transcript must be open!) >> >> Reopen? Add a new report? >> >> Johan >> >> <Screen Shot 2014-08-28 at 08.36.24.png> >

Aug. 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] still getting vm bug...

by Esteban Lorenzano

which vm are you using? On 28 Aug 2014, at 08:48, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: > Hi, > > I am still getting the vm bug mentioned here: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11130#103698 > See screenshot: in my case, loading from filetree almost always throws the bug. I am using the latest Mac OS X pharo vm. > > If I change the method in the screenshot by extracting the assignment into a separate statement, the problem disappears. > > However, I can also still reproduce it reliably with Krisâ code snippet from the same issue thread: > > 1 to: 1000 do: [ :i | > | string | > Transcript show: 'Iteration '; show: i; cr. > 1 timesRepeat: [ > (string := String new: 1000 withAll: $a) > reversed. > ]. > ]. > > (NOTE: Transcript must be open!) > > Reopen? Add a new report? > > Johan > > <Screen Shot 2014-08-28 at 08.36.24.png>

Aug. 28, 2014

still getting vm bug...

by Johan Brichau

Hi, I am still getting the vm bug mentioned here: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11130#103698 See screenshot: in my case, loading from filetree almost always throws the bug. I am using the latest Mac OS X pharo vm. If I change the method in the screenshot by extracting the assignment into a separate statement, the problem disappears. However, I can also still reproduce it reliably with Krisâ code snippet from the same issue thread: 1 to: 1000 do: [ :i | | string | Transcript show: 'Iteration '; show: i; cr. 1 timesRepeat: [ (string := String new: 1000 withAll: $a) reversed. ]. ]. (NOTE: Transcript must be open!) Reopen? Add a new report? Johan

Aug. 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher on Windows not the latest version

by Tim Mackinnon

Wow - thanks for the detail Ben. I'd forgotten about that windows virtual stuff. It's quite tricky... I guess we might have to add this to the SmalltalkHub description on confirmation from Kilon. Tim P.s. I have another simple change queued up to let Launcher use a specified VM (not just the one you launched with). On the mac this gets around not being able to run Launcher again if it exits after launching an image (eg to launch a second one). It also has a nice side effect to let you test with a bleeding edge VM. Tim Sent from my iPhone > On 27 Aug 2014, at 06:42 pm, Ben Coman <btc(a)openInWorld.com> wrote: > > kilon alios wrote: >> >> No dont talk to Damien if he is on holiday , I prefer to respect people free time / relaxation time. This can wait for when Damien will be back. Both Damien and I frequent the irc channel so we will talk , its not a problem. >> >> As I said in my original post I am downloading PharoLauncher from Smalltalkhub links that can be located here >> >> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/PharoLauncher >> >> the link you posted is not contained in there , I used this >> >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncher-Win-Package/lastSu… >> >> and this >> >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncherFinalUserImage/last… >> >> As I said my problem is on Windows, on MacOS its fine . >> >> >>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: >>> Hmmm that sounds strange (it could be I messed something up) - but did you get your zip file from: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncher/885/PHARO=30,VERSI… ?? >>> >>> I just tested that one (but on OSX) and it shows my change as well as templates for Moose 5 and Pharo 4. >>> >>> Iâve just pushed another change (which would be 886), which also fixes a bug Stef mentioned (if underlying files change, it used to terminate instead of refreshing) - that should build shortly. >>> >>> However - the links on SmalltalkHub are still pointing to images from Jun (the Hudson jobs arenât triggered automatically it seems) - so I think you might be running something other than what you think you are running. >>> >>> Anyway - let me know what happens, and Iâll try and talk to Damien (who is on holiday) - and sort it out if Iâve broken it. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>>> On 27 Aug 2014, at 15:16, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I mean PharoLauncher cannot download Pharo 4 because it displays no such option. No Moose 5 , etc etc. Its also the old GUI. So this must be the latest version, I am not near my window pc now at work so I will try tomorrow the developer mode to see exactly which version of PharoLauncher it is. >>>> >>>> Are you on windows ? >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: >>>>> What do you mean by Pharo 4 template? I just made a contribution yesterday - watched it build the new zip file, and I just downloaded that zip and I am seeing a âPharo 4.0 (beta)â template tree? >>>>> >>>>> Just to check you are using the latest version, if you right click on a template and choose âCreate Imageâ - does it prefix the parent of the template to the suggested name (e.g. Pharo 3.0-latest)? (this was the change I made). >>>>> >>>>> It might be worth checking your settings as well (click on the icon lower right) and check that you havenât accidentally unticked the Pharo 4.0 repository. >>>>> >>>>> Tim >>>>> >>>>>> On 27 Aug 2014, at 09:28, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I also downloaded the zip file it still does not give me the same version as MacOSX, no Pharo 4 template >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:04 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> I downloaded PharoLauncher from smalltalkhub for Windows and it appears is not the latest version for example it has no template for downloading Pharo 4. > > Are you operating as a Standard(Limited) User ? Sounds like UAC File Virtualization. I got hit by that. I believe that your new PharoLauncher application with Pharo 4 template installed okay, but its being hidden by your virtual copy of the old application. Two checks you can do: > 1. Run Launcher as an Administrator and check if you get different tempaltes. > 2. Check if you have a folder C:\Users\YOURACCOUNT\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\Pharo > > The hack fix is to delete that folder. > > I believe this problem will only occur if you go into development mode and save the image, however this would be better to avoid this constraint. I see a few options for a permanent solution, but I don't know which is best, so I stalled in implementing it. > a. Install VM into C:\Program Files (x86) and Image & Changes files into C:\ProgramData\Pharo > b. Install VM into C:\Program Files (x86) and Image & Changes files into C:\Users\YOURACCOUNT\AppData\Roaming\pharo\bin > c. Install whole PharoLauncher app only per user (e.g. for "Just Me" ) VM & Image & Changes into folder C:\Users\YOURACCOUNT\AppData\Roaming\pharo\bin > d. When run as admin, PharoLauncher Installer puts itself in the machine folderC:\Program Files (x86) and when this is run as a Standard User, it sets up per (b.). > > Actually reading around and finding [1], maybe (a.) is best. > > [1] http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Installation/Q_28235986.html > > Background info... > https://decibel.ni.com/content/groups/windows-7/blog/2009/10/02/uac-virtual… > http://blogs.technet.com/b/mrsnrub/archive/2010/08/11/uac-virtualization-al… > http://blogs.msdn.com/b/patricka/archive/2009/12/14/tales-of-application-co… > > HTH, cheers -ben

Aug. 28, 2014

background color text attribute?

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Does any of you know if there is a way to add a background color to a piece of text? Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Aug. 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] athens wrapper for (Form-)Canvas

by Tudor Girba

That is cool. What I suggest is to get it out there and then we work with you to tell you the use cases and we evolve the API from there. Cheers, Doru On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 27 August 2014 09:42, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> Igor >> >> we should integrate TxText as soon as the new integration handle >> configurations (normally next week). >> So can you get prepared? >> >> > I can make configuration with latest versions.. > but that won't make things more 'prepared' in aspect that i am still did > not took time to think about high-level API , so there's almost none at the > moment.. and it is still a big question to me, how it should look like. > > i need a list of requirements from perspective of text editor widget, to > at least know what API should be there.. > because if people start using it without API, then it will be hard to do > any changes later, once people integrate it into own projects.. > i just don't want the complexity overflow us, we should keep things simple > enough, hiding implementation details behind. > > We should discuss that.. > because yeah.. you can create morph, place it on screen.. but that don't > makes it easy or convenient to use. > > Stef >> >> >> On 26/8/14 17:43, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On 26 August 2014 00:24, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: >> >>> I tried an alternative approach for rendering Morphs on athens without >>> implementing drawOnAthensCanvas for every morph: >>> >>> 13866 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13866> >>> AthensFormCanvasWrapper >>> >>> still struggling with the text rendering. Yet I am not sure what is the >>> better approach. >>> >> >> A new text model, which i am working on :) >> >> >>> >>> Nicolai >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. >> >> >> > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Aug. 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Change superclass programatically

by Sebastian Tleye

With refactoring I think it is also possible, however it requires more programming and understanding of the refactoring classes 2014-08-27 21:28 GMT+02:00 Martin McClure <martin(a)hand2mouse.com>: > On 08/27/2014 12:23 PM, Martin McClure wrote: > >> On 08/27/2014 12:14 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: >> >>> Any ideas? >>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25535202/change- >>> superclass-programatically >>> >>> >>> >> It looks like sending #superclass: to the class would work. >> > > Yes, I verified this works, though I didn't try any tricky cases where the > old and new superclasses have different numbers of instvars, or instvars > with different names. I'd expect those cases to require more sophisticated > solutions. > > Regards, > > -Martin > > >

Aug. 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Change superclass programatically

by Martin McClure

On 08/27/2014 12:23 PM, Martin McClure wrote: > On 08/27/2014 12:14 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: >> Any ideas? >> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25535202/change-superclass-programatica… >> >> > > It looks like sending #superclass: to the class would work. Yes, I verified this works, though I didn't try any tricky cases where the old and new superclasses have different numbers of instvars, or instvars with different names. I'd expect those cases to require more sophisticated solutions. Regards, -Martin

Aug. 27, 2014