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Re: [Pharo-dev] Call for co-coders

by Yuriy Tymchuk

Hi Stef (and all :)). Would be nice. Iâm anyway going to do something for Pharo and from time to time Iâm making small contributions here and there. As now Iâm working on code design/quality out of listed things I like method categoriser the most. But other options are acceptable. Uko On 19 May 2014, at 09:10, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > Hi guys > > This is a call for some of you that committed code and would like to do it with me :). > I have some projects that I would like to push further in 4.0 and I'm thinking that > he could be much more fun to do it with other people. > > Here are some topics > - integrating the systemLogger > - integrating/improving the new method categorizer > - cleaning fonts > - ... > > How this could work? > We could have > - some discussions > - make a little roadmap > - then we could work on the same slice and do code review > > I think that it can be fun and motivating. So let me know because I would like to have more social > coding. > > Stef >

May 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Call for co-coders

by Tudor Girba

How would you like to change Workspace? Doru On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 2:56 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > a blog post could help a lot because I have no clue what systemLogger > suppose to do or the other things. > > I was actually thinking enhancing Workspace. > > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>wrote: > >> I am interested as well. >> >> I had some private discussions with Norbert and Doru, >> and I used a different approach on one of my projects very recently >> that I am quite happy with. >> >> BTW, I have long term plans to change ZnLogEvent... >> >> On 19 May 2014, at 14:31, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >> >> > Me too. I already gave a first set of feedback. >> > >> > As a general matter, I would be interested in: >> > - unifying with the ZnLogEvent >> > - Split the Log class >> > - Possibly support Fuel serialization for each log entry >> > >> > Doru >> > >> > >> > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:01 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be < >> phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: >> > SystemLogger interests me as well. >> > >> > Phil >> > >> > >> > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> >> wrote: >> > Hi Stef, >> > >> > Iâm definitely in for the SystemLogger. But as I am involved in it >> anyway a fresh look from another person on that stuff could be benefitial. >> > >> > Norbert >> > >> > Am 19.05.2014 um 09:10 schrieb stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: >> > >> > > Hi guys >> > > >> > > This is a call for some of you that committed code and would like to >> do it with me :). >> > > I have some projects that I would like to push further in 4.0 and I'm >> thinking that >> > > he could be much more fun to do it with other people. >> > > >> > > Here are some topics >> > > - integrating the systemLogger >> > > - integrating/improving the new method categorizer >> > > - cleaning fonts >> > > - ... >> > > >> > > How this could work? >> > > We could have >> > > - some discussions >> > > - make a little roadmap >> > > - then we could work on the same slice and do code review >> > > >> > > I think that it can be fun and motivating. So let me know because I >> would like to have more social >> > > coding. >> > > >> > > Stef >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > www.tudorgirba.com >> > >> > "Every thing has its own flow" >> >> >> > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

May 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Call for co-coders

by kilon alios

a blog post could help a lot because I have no clue what systemLogger suppose to do or the other things. I was actually thinking enhancing Workspace. On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > I am interested as well. > > I had some private discussions with Norbert and Doru, > and I used a different approach on one of my projects very recently > that I am quite happy with. > > BTW, I have long term plans to change ZnLogEvent... > > On 19 May 2014, at 14:31, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > > Me too. I already gave a first set of feedback. > > > > As a general matter, I would be interested in: > > - unifying with the ZnLogEvent > > - Split the Log class > > - Possibly support Fuel serialization for each log entry > > > > Doru > > > > > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:01 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > wrote: > > SystemLogger interests me as well. > > > > Phil > > > > > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> > wrote: > > Hi Stef, > > > > Iâm definitely in for the SystemLogger. But as I am involved in it > anyway a fresh look from another person on that stuff could be benefitial. > > > > Norbert > > > > Am 19.05.2014 um 09:10 schrieb stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > > > > > Hi guys > > > > > > This is a call for some of you that committed code and would like to > do it with me :). > > > I have some projects that I would like to push further in 4.0 and I'm > thinking that > > > he could be much more fun to do it with other people. > > > > > > Here are some topics > > > - integrating the systemLogger > > > - integrating/improving the new method categorizer > > > - cleaning fonts > > > - ... > > > > > > How this could work? > > > We could have > > > - some discussions > > > - make a little roadmap > > > - then we could work on the same slice and do code review > > > > > > I think that it can be fun and motivating. So let me know because I > would like to have more social > > > coding. > > > > > > Stef > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > >

May 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Call for co-coders

by Tudor Girba

Of course, publicly. It's in the reply of the first announcement. Doru On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Am 19.05.2014 um 14:31 schrieb Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > > Me too. I already gave a first set of feedback. > > publicly? > > Norbert > > > As a general matter, I would be interested in: > - unifying with the ZnLogEvent > - Split the Log class > - Possibly support Fuel serialization for each log entry > > > Doru > > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:01 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>wrote: > >> SystemLogger interests me as well. >> >> Phil >> >> >> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>wrote: >> >>> Hi Stef, >>> >>> Iâm definitely in for the SystemLogger. But as I am involved in it >>> anyway a fresh look from another person on that stuff could be benefitial. >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> Am 19.05.2014 um 09:10 schrieb stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: >>> >>> > Hi guys >>> > >>> > This is a call for some of you that committed code and would like to >>> do it with me :). >>> > I have some projects that I would like to push further in 4.0 and I'm >>> thinking that >>> > he could be much more fun to do it with other people. >>> > >>> > Here are some topics >>> > - integrating the systemLogger >>> > - integrating/improving the new method categorizer >>> > - cleaning fonts >>> > - ... >>> > >>> > How this could work? >>> > We could have >>> > - some discussions >>> > - make a little roadmap >>> > - then we could work on the same slice and do code review >>> > >>> > I think that it can be fun and motivating. So let me know because I >>> would like to have more social >>> > coding. >>> > >>> > Stef >>> > >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

May 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Call for co-coders

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

I am interested as well. I had some private discussions with Norbert and Doru, and I used a different approach on one of my projects very recently that I am quite happy with. BTW, I have long term plans to change ZnLogEvent... On 19 May 2014, at 14:31, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Me too. I already gave a first set of feedback. > > As a general matter, I would be interested in: > - unifying with the ZnLogEvent > - Split the Log class > - Possibly support Fuel serialization for each log entry > > Doru > > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:01 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > SystemLogger interests me as well. > > Phil > > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > Hi Stef, > > Iâm definitely in for the SystemLogger. But as I am involved in it anyway a fresh look from another person on that stuff could be benefitial. > > Norbert > > Am 19.05.2014 um 09:10 schrieb stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > > > Hi guys > > > > This is a call for some of you that committed code and would like to do it with me :). > > I have some projects that I would like to push further in 4.0 and I'm thinking that > > he could be much more fun to do it with other people. > > > > Here are some topics > > - integrating the systemLogger > > - integrating/improving the new method categorizer > > - cleaning fonts > > - ... > > > > How this could work? > > We could have > > - some discussions > > - make a little roadmap > > - then we could work on the same slice and do code review > > > > I think that it can be fun and motivating. So let me know because I would like to have more social > > coding. > > > > Stef > > > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"

May 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Call for co-coders

by Norbert Hartl

Am 19.05.2014 um 14:31 schrieb Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > Me too. I already gave a first set of feedback. > publicly? Norbert > As a general matter, I would be interested in: > - unifying with the ZnLogEvent > - Split the Log class > - Possibly support Fuel serialization for each log entry > > Doru > > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:01 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > SystemLogger interests me as well. > > Phil > > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > Hi Stef, > > Iâm definitely in for the SystemLogger. But as I am involved in it anyway a fresh look from another person on that stuff could be benefitial. > > Norbert > > Am 19.05.2014 um 09:10 schrieb stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > > > Hi guys > > > > This is a call for some of you that committed code and would like to do it with me :). > > I have some projects that I would like to push further in 4.0 and I'm thinking that > > he could be much more fun to do it with other people. > > > > Here are some topics > > - integrating the systemLogger > > - integrating/improving the new method categorizer > > - cleaning fonts > > - ... > > > > How this could work? > > We could have > > - some discussions > > - make a little roadmap > > - then we could work on the same slice and do code review > > > > I think that it can be fun and motivating. So let me know because I would like to have more social > > coding. > > > > Stef > > > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"

May 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Call for co-coders

by Sebastian Sastre

great move! Iâm not available but you should blog and announce about this! guys activate your social media about this people need this kind of signal beating is their chance to get involved and get great code mentoring On May 19, 2014, at 4:10 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > Hi guys > > This is a call for some of you that committed code and would like to do it with me :). > I have some projects that I would like to push further in 4.0 and I'm thinking that > he could be much more fun to do it with other people. > > Here are some topics > - integrating the systemLogger > - integrating/improving the new method categorizer > - cleaning fonts > - ... > > How this could work? > We could have > - some discussions > - make a little roadmap > - then we could work on the same slice and do code review > > I think that it can be fun and motivating. So let me know because I would like to have more social > coding. > > Stef >

May 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] GetText deleting Pharo classes

by Usman Bhatti

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 2:27 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > usman > > I have no idea > > On 19/5/14 12:25, Usman Bhatti wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> When GetText package (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/Gettext < >> http://smalltalkhub.com/#%21/%7EPharoExtras/Gettext>) is loaded in >> Pharo, it overwrites two Pharo classes >> > > what do you mean by overrides? GetText removes these two already existing classes to write of its own with the same name. > > with its own in System-Localization package: LocalID and >> NaturalLangaugeTranslator. Although so far I haven't seen any bugs in >> GetText because of this anomaly, one of the side-effects is that we get a >> dirty package in Monticello browser. >> >> Does anyone who is knowledge about the history of two packages know the >> reason to create classes with identical names? >> >> A solution would be to rename these classes in one of the packages. I >> have know a bit about the internals of GetText so I would be biased towards >> renaming its but I would need your suggestions/confirmation on how to >> proceed/which one to modify. >> > It would be good to understand the two because may be we could build a > better package. > I only know GetText that's why I was asking for help with System-Localization. So, I'll need some feedback from the people who know about these packages before starting any modifications. > > Stef > >> >> tx. >> >> usman >> > > >

May 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Call for co-coders

by Tudor Girba

Me too. I already gave a first set of feedback. As a general matter, I would be interested in: - unifying with the ZnLogEvent - Split the Log class - Possibly support Fuel serialization for each log entry Doru On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:01 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>wrote: > SystemLogger interests me as well. > > Phil > > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>wrote: > >> Hi Stef, >> >> Iâm definitely in for the SystemLogger. But as I am involved in it anyway >> a fresh look from another person on that stuff could be benefitial. >> >> Norbert >> >> Am 19.05.2014 um 09:10 schrieb stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: >> >> > Hi guys >> > >> > This is a call for some of you that committed code and would like to do >> it with me :). >> > I have some projects that I would like to push further in 4.0 and I'm >> thinking that >> > he could be much more fun to do it with other people. >> > >> > Here are some topics >> > - integrating the systemLogger >> > - integrating/improving the new method categorizer >> > - cleaning fonts >> > - ... >> > >> > How this could work? >> > We could have >> > - some discussions >> > - make a little roadmap >> > - then we could work on the same slice and do code review >> > >> > I think that it can be fun and motivating. So let me know because I >> would like to have more social >> > coding. >> > >> > Stef >> > >> >> >> > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

May 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] GetText deleting Pharo classes

by stepharo

usman I have no idea On 19/5/14 12:25, Usman Bhatti wrote: > Hi, > > When GetText package (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/Gettext > <http://smalltalkhub.com/#%21/%7EPharoExtras/Gettext>) is loaded in > Pharo, it overwrites two Pharo classes what do you mean by overrides? > with its own in System-Localization package: LocalID and > NaturalLangaugeTranslator. Although so far I haven't seen any bugs in > GetText because of this anomaly, one of the side-effects is that we > get a dirty package in Monticello browser. > > Does anyone who is knowledge about the history of two packages know > the reason to create classes with identical names? > > A solution would be to rename these classes in one of the packages. I > have know a bit about the internals of GetText so I would be biased > towards renaming its but I would need your suggestions/confirmation on > how to proceed/which one to modify. It would be good to understand the two because may be we could build a better package. Stef > > tx. > > usman

May 19, 2014