May 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] blog post explaining the codecity visualization of pharo changes

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 18 May 2014, at 10:47, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It is really a nice way to announce/talk smartly and originally on Pharo > release out there. Yes, really nice. If only we knew what #detect:ifOne:ifNone: did ;-) > Thanks > > Hilaire > > Le 18/05/2014 09:52, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : >> Hi, >> >> I was asked several times for how the visualization from the Pharo 3.0 >> announcement was created. I now put together a blog post to explain it: >> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/communicating-changes-in-pharo-3-0 >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" > > -- > Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

May 19, 2014

The funny side of Pharo : Message Definitely Not Understood

by kilon alios

I felt adventurous today, so I said what the hell lets try to update Pharo with the updater tool. So I used world menu navigated to system and choose software update. And after a long download and method's compiling the attached image appeared :)

May 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Grant for MetaRepoForPharo30

by Maximiliano Taborda

Ready. You got it now. I decided to not update the config from the aconcagua repo, and maintain up to date only the one in the meta repo, because I canÂ´t find a way to publish the same config version to more than one repo and I don't see the point of "copy" the same package in more than one repo. If it doesn't exist the option, is a craziness thinking in publish to more than one repo the same config just in one action? Regards. Maxi. 2014-05-19 15:06 GMT-03:00 Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>: > Maximiliano Taborda wrote > > I want to publish Chalten and Aconcagua to the meta repo for 3.0. > > If it's safe, will you copy the config to > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/maxi/Aconcagua/main/ (there is an outdated > version there now)? I'd like to depend on it in my project without > involving > meta repo for 3.0. In general I've found it's always a good idea to keep > copies of configs with the main project because you never know how users > will find you! Thanks :) > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Grant-for-MetaRepoForPharo30-tp4755362p4759574.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > >

May 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] 32 bits and 64 bits VM

by Eliot Miranda

Hi Damien, On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Hilaire Fernandes > <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I know for years[1], only solve partially, on some Linux distribution, > > not really user friendly, support of this solution may change over > > making installation of 32bits libs even more complicated for average > user. > > > the PPA I have created hides all these details. You just have to > install the pharo-vm-desktop package and dependencies will follow. It > works on both 32bits and 64bits. > Can you point me to this? I'd like to see if I can use it with my linux installs. > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill > > -- best, Eliot

May 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] 32 bits and 64 bits VM

by Sergi Reyner

2014-05-19 17:00 GMT+01:00 Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com>: > For me shipping the VM with the application eases the installation by > the user and the production of release. > Of course, work need to be duplicated for the different Linux systems, > probably the most popular only, but still will close the door to > distribution I do not provide package. I just can't cope with that. > I hear you ! Cheers, Sergi

May 19, 2014

Versionner is even Coooler

by Sean P. DeNigris

It is really a joy to start a project with Versionner... I used to delay creating a Metacello config as long as possible, and would try to add all the dependencies at once, often forgetting and chasing them down one at a time. Now these are all simple visual operations, so I create a config with the first dependency and add them as they come along, without interrupting my workflow too much. Thanks Christophe and other Versionner contributors :) ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Versionner-is-even-Coooler-tp4759583.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] blog post explaining the codecity visualization of pharo changes

by kilon alios

really impressive how much change has gone inside pharo and I think codecity is excellent way to show this. Thanks for sharing :) On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>wrote: > Tudor Girba-2 wrote > > I now put together a blog post to explain it: > > Cool!! I wanted that since I saw the visualization :) > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/blog-post-explaining-the-codecity-visualization-of-ph… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > >

May 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] blog post explaining the codecity visualization of pharo changes

by Sean P. DeNigris

Tudor Girba-2 wrote > I now put together a blog post to explain it: Cool!! I wanted that since I saw the visualization :) ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/blog-post-explaining-the-codecity-visualization-of-ph… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Grant for MetaRepoForPharo30

by Sean P. DeNigris

Maximiliano Taborda wrote > I want to publish Chalten and Aconcagua to the meta repo for 3.0. If it's safe, will you copy the config to http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/maxi/Aconcagua/main/ (there is an outdated version there now)? I'd like to depend on it in my project without involving meta repo for 3.0. In general I've found it's always a good idea to keep copies of configs with the main project because you never know how users will find you! Thanks :) ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Grant-for-MetaRepoForPharo30-tp4755362p4759574.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] 200% CPU?

by ClÃ©ment Bera

2014-05-19 17:37 GMT+02:00 Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com>: > 2014-05-19 12:03 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: > > Load on a unix machine is more or less a count of how many processes are > waiting for IO, so you will see high numbers when doing lot's of IO. This > way you can go loads many multiples of 100%. > > On a multicore machine, N x 100% is normal as a CPU maximum. My laptop > has 4 cores and can show 400% load when doing something highly parallel. > > I didn't know that. My CPU has 4 cores too, but the vm only two. > I guess the database sockets increase this IO count and causes such > high cpu use. > > What is the way to measure the "real" cpu use of the pharo-vm? > > > It is good that the load came back down to normal ;-) > > I wish idle was 0%, but 5% is totally acceptable given how stable it is. > I would love to have that. If someone has a few months to spend in the Scheduler ... Note that with the new non blocking FFI implementation (I don't know when it will be in production, the 64 bits port became more important than non blocking FFI, so we inverted the priorities, probably in a year or 2), the VM could show more than 100% cpu usage if using FFI. > > Thank you Sven. > > Esteban A. Maringolo > >

May 19, 2014