May 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Advice for a newb

by Eliot Miranda

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:11 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > Hi > > I ***know*** remember that I was the guy that pushed the use of MC to > manage 3.9. > still there are some cases were MC does not work. > and those would be? Are you sure that it is MC to blame? If one *doesn't* install an update when making a change one can of course break the system. But that isn't MC's fault. That is the author of the change failing to deliver it appropriately, a mistake I suspect everyone whose made major changes to critical Smalltalk infrastructure has made at some point. Stef > -- best, Eliot

May 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] How To for CI and Jenkins

by kilon alios

yes i see it now , thank you :) On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>wrote: > On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 3:17 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > thanks Damien , I have done as you suggested. I am not in a hurry , take > > your time accepting my request. > > > your request has already been accepted as far as I know. You should be > able to click on 'New Job' when logged on > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/ > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill > >

May 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] How To for CI and Jenkins

by Damien Cassou

On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 3:17 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > thanks Damien , I have done as you suggested. I am not in a hurry , take > your time accepting my request. your request has already been accepted as far as I know. You should be able to click on 'New Job' when logged on https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/ -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

May 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is your seaside application?

by Chris Muller

Hi Leonardo, > > I am interested in events you can trigger in web pages. For example: a > user clicks on a button and the script code associated causes a state > change in the Document Object Model (DOM) and sends a XHR request > (XMLHttpRequest) to the server. The server eventually answers this request, > closing the sequence of events. I want to trace these sequences of events > from a running application. > You might be interested in checking out Michael Perscheids recently announced "Path Tools" framework for Squeak. It performs incremental, dynamic analysis of an application under observation. The framework is designed to analyze the running TestCases of an application, which is perfect for TDD. https://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/trac/SqueakCommunityProjects/wiki… One of the demonstration videos showcases its "Test-driven fault navigation" capability, where a bug is purposefully introduced into Seaside itself and shown how the system employs its lightweight, "back-in-time debugging" feature to identify it. Amazing stuff! >> So, a simple and quick-to-answer question, what is your Seaside application and how to access the code of it? > > > > many of web app are private because business oriented. > > I understand, but it would be nice to have some examples of web > applications using script languages, even if I don't have access to all > source code. > Path Tools is MIT-licensed so everything is visible. In fact at the bottom of that page is a pre-configured image available for download which provides an interactive tutorial.

May 24, 2014

SpecDebugger MNU ListModel>>getItems

by Ben Coman

In trying to learn the pattern of the existing unit tests for Pillar, I bumped into a failure of SpecDebugger with at MNU: ListModel>>getItems. I took a wild guess at copying NewListModel>>getListItems and came up with ListModel>>getItems ^ listHolder value I don't know if thats even close to right, but at least it stopped SpecDebugger complaining. Should I open a ticket for that to be looked for Pharo3.1 or Pharo4? Should Pillar be changed to use NewListModel? What is the plan going forward for ListModel and NewListModel? cheers -ben

May 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] How To for CI and Jenkins

by kilon alios

thanks Damien , I have done as you suggested. I am not in a hurry , take your time accepting my request. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>wrote: > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:29 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > So how I add a Job in Jenkins ? I assume I need an account but could not > > find a registration procedure and generally I need info how to do this. > > > you need to register on https://ci.inria.fr/users/new and request to > join the pharo-contribution project. Then, one of us will accept your > request and you will be able to create a new job. > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill > >

May 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] How To for CI and Jenkins

by Damien Cassou

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:29 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > So how I add a Job in Jenkins ? I assume I need an account but could not > find a registration procedure and generally I need info how to do this. you need to register on https://ci.inria.fr/users/new and request to join the pharo-contribution project. Then, one of us will accept your request and you will be able to create a new job. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

May 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bad naming: users

by Stephan Eggermont

In keeping with what we did with Magritte: rename users (and users:) to traitUsers(:) ? Are there external tools using this, or is it only used in image? Stephan

May 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is your seaside application?

by Stephan Eggermont

Please note that Storyboard has not been migrated to Pharo 3 yet, and by default not loads seaside first. It uses a class side method users, that seems to interfere with loading. Looks like a bad name choice in TBehavior that hasn't been fixed yet. I'll fix the configuration after the weekend Stephan

May 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving Pharo By Example

by kilon alios

Finished Chapter 3 , no errors or warnings reporting with pdf generation. I am moving to Chapter 2 now, which for some strange reason I skipped. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:19 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > oh yes I completely missed the "examples" option. Great ! One thing less > to worry about , thanks Ben :) > > > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > >> kilon alios wrote: >> >> In section 1.9 page 18 there is this text >> >> "At other times you may have a good idea that a method exists, but >> will have no idea what it might be called. The method finder can still >> help! For example, suppose that you would like to find a method that turns >> a string into upper case, for example, it would translate 'eureka' into >> 'EUREKA'. >> >> The method finder will suggest a method that does what you want.8 >> >> An asterisk at the beginning of a line in the right pane of the method >> finder indicates that this method is the one that was actually used to >> obtain the requested result. So, the asterisk in front of String >> asUppercase lets us know that the method asUppercase defined on the >> class String was executed and returned the result we wanted. The methods >> that do not have an asterisk are just the other methods that have the same >> name as the ones that returned the expected result. So CharacterÂ»asUppercase >> was not executed on our example, because 'eureka' is not a Character object. >> >> >> You can also use the method finder for methods with arguments; for >> example, if you are looking for a method that will find the greatest common >> factor of two integers, you might try 25. 35. 5 as an example. You can >> also give the method finder multiple examples to narrow the search space; >> the help text in the bottom pane explains how. " >> >> I tried " 'eureka' . 'EUREKA '" and the other suggestion it does not seem >> to work , should I remove this section ? >> >> It works for me... >> * World > Tools > Finder >> * Type... 'eureka' . 'EUREKA' >> * Change [Selectors] to [Examples] >> >> >> >

May 24, 2014