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Re: [Pharo-dev] R: [Screencast] request for review

by Laurent Laffont

Video uploaded on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3gtVjGYRLI Thanks Lorenzo for Italian subtitles ! Laurent Le vendredi 2 mai 2014, 09:08:49 Lorenzo Schiavina a Ã©crit : > Hi Laurent, > > if you need a help in Italian, I am available. > > Lorenzo > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] Per conto di > Laurent Laffont > Inviato: giovedÃ¬ 1 maggio 2014 23:21 > A: pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org > Oggetto: [Pharo-dev] [Screencast] request for review > > Hi, > > I've recorded a screencast for Pharo 3.0. Could some of you review the > english subtitles ? > > Project is here: https://github.com/lolgzs/pharo-picasa-screencast , > subtitles in picasa_pharo3.en.srt. It's a simple text format, but you can > use tools like KDE subtitle composer or Jubler to edit it. You can either > send me fix by mail or make merge requests on github (easier for me :). > > > Next the idea is to have subtitles translated into several languages, help > appreciated. > > And if you have courage and time :), it would be nice to have voice recorded > (my spoken english sounds, well, ... ). > > The screencast may be published on new Pharo website for people to get > started. > > Cheers, > > Laurent >

May 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3, a Live Computing Environment

by Esteban Lorenzano

cool, I never though on doing that before :P Esteban On 02 May 2014, at 15:20, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKhXLOu_DBU > > >

May 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Screencast] request for review

by Hilaire Fernandes

Hello Laurent, Two points: 1. on the video you have a rate problem, this is why it looks fast. 2. You should cut your video in at least 5 videos chunk of about 3 min. each, or 3 parts of 5 min. each. It will make it more easy to digest for newbie. Sometime hesitation on the interface use should not be always cut, it can be instructive as well. Hilaire Le 01/05/2014 23:21, Laurent Laffont a Ã©crit : > I've recorded a screencast for Pharo 3.0. Could some of you review the english subtitles ? -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

May 2, 2014

Pharo3, a Live Computing Environment

by Stephan Eggermont

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKhXLOu_DBU

May 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Screencast] request for review

by Ben Coman

May 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Making screenshots programmatically for book

by Sergi Reyner

2014-05-02 10:27 GMT+01:00 Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>: > What is the best way to make screenshots for documentation? In Pillar we > mostly have a figures directory with pngs. With the change rate of Pharo, > making them by hand seems a bad idea. > Adapting PasteUpMorph>>#makeAScreenshot? Cheers, Sergi

May 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Screencast] request for review

by kilon alios

Fair enough Laurent , pity I am not a native speaker :) Thank guys for your good words, its important that people can understand with ease my English. I have to admit I was skeptical myself and of course I had close to zero experience with screencasts so its all new to me :D On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Laurent Laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi, > > actually the video is accelerated (almost 40' video reduced to 14'), lot > of cuts to try to show a perfect workflow that nobody can have (I'm not an > alien, I just cheat :). Having the good timing and workflow is hard, I can > slowdown the video. My goals are: > - create ah WHAOUH effect when watching the first time > - come back later slowly, pause, try to do the thing > > > Personnally I like things going fast because that's how I like it, but I > understand. With VLC you can adjust the timing easily (click on the 1.0x in > the status bar, bottom right), may be people can try and tell me the good > ratio for them. > > > And yes, voice will be far better, but I would like a native-english > man/woman to record it. > > Cheers, > > Laurent > > > Le vendredi 2 mai 2014, 14:03:34 kilon alios a Ã©crit : > > Yeap it was me being stupid, it works for me now on MACOS. I have right > > clicked and saved it on Github and instead it saved a xml thing, dont > know > > why. But I copy pasted its contents and now it works. > > > > I would say that with subtitles it raised to 70-80% of what I can > > understand. I still think its too fast and subtitles seem to overlap > adding > > to the confusion . > > > > I am willing to do the voice over , my vocal English is far from perfect > . > > Here is a demo > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qd05hL85_Y > > > > I am also familiar with audio recording software and iMovie so I can add > > the audio inside the movie. > > > > > > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> > wrote: > > > > > It worked for me using VLC on Mac OS X. > > > > > > But although I understand Laurent 100% for not wanting to record his > own > > > voice (I hate mine as well), and although I have made subtitled > screencasts > > > in the past myself, it is a fact that it is very hard to watch what is > > > happening on the screen and read subtitles at the same time - maybe > > > watching at half-speed (AKA half-laurent-speed, or mer-mortal-speed) > helps ? > > > > > > On 02 May 2014, at 12:25, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > also i tried to watch it in VLC adding the English subtitles and VLC > > > does not seem to recognize the subtitle format. Anyway to watch it with > > > subtitles on win 7 and macos ? > > > > > > > > > > > >

May 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Making screenshots programmatically for book

by kilon alios

Very interesting concept, it indeed could help keep the images up to date with Pharo :) Maybe we should agree on some convention or use a common library for them that will take these images with just a single message ? Or even make it part of Pillar syntax ? On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Laurent Laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Why not putting Smalltalk code that will take the screenshot and save it > in the documentation ? Makes good functionnal tests too Ã la Python. > > Laurent > > Le vendredi 2 mai 2014, 11:27:47 Stephan Eggermont a Ã©crit : > > What is the best way to make screenshots for documentation? In Pillar we > mostly have a figures directory with pngs. With the change rate of Pharo, > making them by hand seems a bad idea. > > > > Stephan > > >

May 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Screencast] request for review

by Laurent Laffont

Hi, actually the video is accelerated (almost 40' video reduced to 14'), lot of cuts to try to show a perfect workflow that nobody can have (I'm not an alien, I just cheat :). Having the good timing and workflow is hard, I can slowdown the video. My goals are: - create ah WHAOUH effect when watching the first time - come back later slowly, pause, try to do the thing Personnally I like things going fast because that's how I like it, but I understand. With VLC you can adjust the timing easily (click on the 1.0x in the status bar, bottom right), may be people can try and tell me the good ratio for them. And yes, voice will be far better, but I would like a native-english man/woman to record it. Cheers, Laurent Le vendredi 2 mai 2014, 14:03:34 kilon alios a Ã©crit : > Yeap it was me being stupid, it works for me now on MACOS. I have right > clicked and saved it on Github and instead it saved a xml thing, dont know > why. But I copy pasted its contents and now it works. > > I would say that with subtitles it raised to 70-80% of what I can > understand. I still think its too fast and subtitles seem to overlap adding > to the confusion . > > I am willing to do the voice over , my vocal English is far from perfect . > Here is a demo > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qd05hL85_Y > > I am also familiar with audio recording software and iMovie so I can add > the audio inside the movie. > > > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > > It worked for me using VLC on Mac OS X. > > > > But although I understand Laurent 100% for not wanting to record his own > > voice (I hate mine as well), and although I have made subtitled screencasts > > in the past myself, it is a fact that it is very hard to watch what is > > happening on the screen and read subtitles at the same time - maybe > > watching at half-speed (AKA half-laurent-speed, or mer-mortal-speed) helps ? > > > > On 02 May 2014, at 12:25, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > also i tried to watch it in VLC adding the English subtitles and VLC > > does not seem to recognize the subtitle format. Anyway to watch it with > > subtitles on win 7 and macos ? > > > > > >

May 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] download from website: missing .sources file

by Sergi Reyner

2014-05-02 7:32 GMT+01:00 Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be>: > Though this one keeps popping up over and over again: the .sources file is > _not_ available for download from the website. If you download the vm and > the image, you still need to get the .sources from somewhere else. It would > be really good to fix that. > I just enabled the "Download missing sources" setting. Cheers, Sergi

May 2, 2014