April 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo tutorials

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Yes, you are right, this is a bit silly. It looks as if it's even done on purpose: HelpBrowser>>#initWindow ... "Text" contentMorph := self defaultViewerClass on: self text: nil accept: nil readSelection: nil menu: nil. ... Not sure what to do, the HelpBrowser does not seem to be Spec based. It would be nice if we could fix this. On 11 Apr 2014, at 06:46, Tyler Sperry <r.tyler.sperry(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> what is pharo tutorials? > > I just ran across this issue tonight after installing the 4/10 build of > Pharo 3.0 on a Windows netbook. > At first I thought it was a 3.0 beta quirk, but no, things worked the same > way when I tried it in a > fresh 2.0 image as well. > > The problem is that users get to the tutorials from the "Browse tutorials" > window, which has > a different behavior than a window created by the tutorial itself. From > World > Help > Pharo Tutorials > you are in a browser that won't generate menus for selected text. So if you > navigate in the left pane > to "Welcome" you see text that tells you to select "PharoTutorial next." and > right click your way to a > "do it (d)" option. The problem is that you can't actually get *any* right > click menu for selected right-pane text. > > I'm a Smalltalk noob, but not a *complete* noob, so I tried Alt+d and sure > enough, I got the next > Professor Stef lesson in its own window, where the right click menus work > fine. > > Thierry's guess about read only status doesn't seem to totally explain the > issue. You can, for example, > pick a random lesson in the "Browse tutorials" left pane and the right pane > contents will exhibit the same > behavior: select + right click doesn't work, but select and Alt+D/P works as > expected (I.e. Alt-p will > alter the lesson's text.) > > I can understand why this subject wouldn't show up for most Pharo users: > they are experienced > Smalltalkers who use the keyboard shortcuts instead of the menus. Given that > Pharo isn't targeting > beginners it's not a big deal, but I would suggest the text for that first > "Welcome" tutorial lesson be > changed to tell the student to use Alt+d or Command+d instead of the current > frustrating menu > suggestion. The second lesson will appear in something like a normal > workspace window, and that's > where the option of keyboard or mouse menu could be explained. > > Tyler > > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-tutorials-tp4746757p4754016.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

April 11, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [OT] Pharo-Amber stack screencast

by Sebastian Sastre

On Apr 11, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If I have to start it again from scratch I think I would do it a little simpler > I guess Iâve learned as I did it XD > > ha, now I am curious ;-) > what did you simplified? 1. the components (perhaps by coding it more stateless in the front-end) 2. not using announcements and favour javascript events (lately I donât see announcements in the front-end pays off, is more code for no solid benefit beside code elegance) 3. the new way to start a new amber project said that, on the Pharo side Iâm quite satisfied sebastian o/

April 11, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [OT] Pharo-Amber stack screencast

by Luc Fabresse

2014-04-11 22:06 GMT+02:00 Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com>: > > On Apr 11, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Sebastian, > > Really nice video and demo app! > Thanks a lot for sharing this. > > thanks for your feedback, Iâm glad you enjoyed! > > Is the code available? > > Two issues with that: > 1. it has many piece and a screencast for that would be long > 2. Amber is changing a little how it organises things, I would like to > share the new way and that app has the old way. Hopefully this is the first > screencast of many showing the new way which is way cooler. > > What can be done? Iâll release the pieces and screencast as I can. One is > already there <https://github.com/sebastianconcept/Mapless> but could > find time to explain how to install motivation, applicability, etc. Stay > tuned! > sure I will! > > > To learn more in details ;-) > > In the video, I also liked when you presented the root folder of your > project and how you managed the marriage of everything. > For example, you explained that you use filetree so I suppose that you use > git or svn for versioning the whole thing? > > > Glad you mention this. I was suspecting someone would appreciate that (I > know I would a while ago). > Yes, I use filetree and git. > If I have to start it again from scratch I think I would do it a little > simpler > I guess Iâve learned as I did it XD > ha, now I am curious ;-) what did you simplified? #Luc > > > I would also have liked more details on the network communications. > 1 websocket per webpage? > home-made protocol? > > Thatâs something interesting I didnât showed there, youâre right. Not too > fancy, just WebSockets with a custom Zinc handler on the backend. Iâm > thinking on doing a second part showing just that. > > again thanks for your input and glad you enjoyed > > > > Cheers, > > Luc > > > #Luc > > > 2014-04-11 0:51 GMT+02:00 Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com>: > >> Hi guys, >> >> this might be of interest to some: >> >> *A tour into tasks, a flowing experiment on full-duplex web applications >> using web sockets* >> >> http://blog.flowingconcept.com/brandIt/a-tour-into-tasks-a-flowing-experime… >> >> Is a ~28m screencast Iâve published in enGrish giving a tour on various >> details of this little experiment: >> >> http://tasks.flowingconcept.com/service/ >> >> These screencasts will be *feedback-driven* so feel free to comment and >> send suggestions on how to make them better or cover topics you feel need >> to be proven the most for a broader audience >> >> hope you enjoy and donât forget to vote up on youtube if you do! >> >> sebastian <https://about.me/sebastianconcept> >> >> o/ >> >> >> >> >> >> > >

April 11, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [OT] Pharo-Amber stack screencast

by Sebastian Sastre

On Apr 11, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Sebastian, > > Really nice video and demo app! > Thanks a lot for sharing this. > thanks for your feedback, Iâm glad you enjoyed! > Is the code available? Two issues with that: 1. it has many piece and a screencast for that would be long 2. Amber is changing a little how it organises things, I would like to share the new way and that app has the old way. Hopefully this is the first screencast of many showing the new way which is way cooler. What can be done? Iâll release the pieces and screencast as I can. One is already there but could find time to explain how to install motivation, applicability, etc. Stay tuned! > To learn more in details ;-) > > In the video, I also liked when you presented the root folder of your project and how you managed the marriage of everything. > For example, you explained that you use filetree so I suppose that you use git or svn for versioning the whole thing? Glad you mention this. I was suspecting someone would appreciate that (I know I would a while ago). Yes, I use filetree and git. If I have to start it again from scratch I think I would do it a little simpler I guess Iâve learned as I did it XD > > I would also have liked more details on the network communications. > 1 websocket per webpage? > home-made protocol? Thatâs something interesting I didnât showed there, youâre right. Not too fancy, just WebSockets with a custom Zinc handler on the backend. Iâm thinking on doing a second part showing just that. again thanks for your input and glad you enjoyed > > Cheers, > > Luc > > > #Luc > > > 2014-04-11 0:51 GMT+02:00 Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com>: > Hi guys, > > this might be of interest to some: > > A tour into tasks, a flowing experiment on full-duplex web applications using web sockets > http://blog.flowingconcept.com/brandIt/a-tour-into-tasks-a-flowing-experime… > > Is a ~28m screencast Iâve published in enGrish giving a tour on various details of this little experiment: > > http://tasks.flowingconcept.com/service/ > > These screencasts will be feedback-driven so feel free to comment and send suggestions on how to make them better or cover topics you feel need to be proven the most for a broader audience > > hope you enjoy and donât forget to vote up on youtube if you do! > > sebastian > > o/ > > > > > >

April 11, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [OT] Pharo-Amber stack screencast

by Luc Fabresse

Hi Sebastian, Really nice video and demo app! Thanks a lot for sharing this. Is the code available? To learn more in details ;-) In the video, I also liked when you presented the root folder of your project and how you managed the marriage of everything. For example, you explained that you use filetree so I suppose that you use git or svn for versioning the whole thing? I would also have liked more details on the network communications. 1 websocket per webpage? home-made protocol? Cheers, Luc #Luc 2014-04-11 0:51 GMT+02:00 Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com>: > Hi guys, > > this might be of interest to some: > > *A tour into tasks, a flowing experiment on full-duplex web applications > using web sockets* > > http://blog.flowingconcept.com/brandIt/a-tour-into-tasks-a-flowing-experime… > > Is a ~28m screencast Iâve published in enGrish giving a tour on various > details of this little experiment: > > http://tasks.flowingconcept.com/service/ > > These screencasts will be *feedback-driven* so feel free to comment and > send suggestions on how to make them better or cover topics you feel need > to be proven the most for a broader audience > > hope you enjoy and donât forget to vote up on youtube if you do! > > sebastian <https://about.me/sebastianconcept> > > o/ > > > > > >

April 11, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nicer scrollbars [was RE: Fixing inconsistent buttons look in PharoUI]

by Esteban A. Maringolo

Well... Chrome put the scrollbar arrows back. I don't know what to say. :) Esteban A. Maringolo 2014-03-26 10:38 GMT-03:00 Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com>: > 2014-03-26 10:27 GMT-03:00 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>: >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> > >>> Like in Chrome... and almost everywhere else. The scrolling metaphor >>> is so ingrained that in some cases even the bar isn't displayed until >>> the scroll intent is initiated. > >> FWIW, Office 2013 has nice scrollbars with arrows. Along with supersmooth >> animations. > > Microsoft is very conservative in that regard. They aim at the broader > range of END USERS, from the noviceto the computer literate one. > > I payed particular attention to this "scrollbar" UX in the past, and > my personal research (watching people) shows that most of them use the > mousewheel or simply drag the bar in mouse based UIs, and/or swipe > up/down in touch based. > > I love supersmooth animations, but they're part of a whole transitions engine. > >> Windows Explorer has others (which have cool arrows) and these (<-) (->) (^) >> things that we should put into nautilus in addition to the history dropdown. > > What are the (<-) (->) (^) you mention? :) > > > Regards!

April 11, 2014

[pharo-project/pharo-core] a0a05d: 30823

by GitHub

Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: a0a05d7b241ff6bc84f79e99a6dead1fb0f7d15e https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/a0a05d7b241ff6bc84f79e99… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2014-04-11 (Fri, 11 Apr 2014) Changed paths: M ClassOrganizer-Core.package/AllProtocol.class/class/data/defaultName.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script476.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30823.st M ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st Log Message: ----------- 30823 13190 -- all -- vs. --- all --- https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13190 http://files.pharo.org/image/30/30823.zip

April 11, 2014

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

by GitHub

Branch: refs/tags/30823 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

April 11, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] Issue tracker status

by Marcus Denker

On 09 Apr 2014, at 11:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On 08 Apr 2014, at 10:58, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> âMust fixâ and higher: 20 Issues, 5 of those have fixes that need reviews > > down to 17, 3 need reviews. Down to 9 > >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/64/3-0-TODO >> >> (this list should be empty before we release) >> >> There are overall 87 issues tagged for Pharo3: >> > down to 74 down to 50 > >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/99/3-0-All >>

April 11, 2014

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

by GitHub

Branch: refs/tags/30822 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

April 11, 2014