April 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] We need *you* for the upcoming Pharo's website

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 21 Apr 2014, at 22:51, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 21.04.2014, at 22:09, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > >> Nice one, why not add a file browser as well ? > > Sure, maybe the text then needs a small update: > > <stack serialization with fuel.txt> Argh, I didn't see the text the first time; your explanation with the drag&drop makes the file browser (less/not) necessary. >> <pharo-3-external-stack.png> >> >> >> On 20 Apr 2014, at 12:09, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> <Screen Shot 2014-04-20 at 11.57.52.png><stack serialization with fuel.txt> >>> On 15.04.2014, at 13:03, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> we are working on a new website for Pharo! We need your help. If you >>>> have some time, please create and send us one of the following items: >>>> >>>> - An up-to-date screenshot of Pharo 3.0 that shows some cool features. >>>> It should be 800px wide ; >>>> - A screencast ; >>>> - A paragraph (around 40 words) that presents a nice topic about Pharo >>>> and a corresponding screenshot. >>>> >>>> We will select 1 large screenshot, 3 screencasts and 4 topic paragraphs. >>>> >>>> This could be a very nice way for you to contribute to Pharo! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Damien Cassou >>>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >>>> >>>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without >>>> losing enthusiasm." >>>> Winston Churchill >>>> >>> >> >

April 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] We need *you* for the upcoming Pharo's website

by Max Leske

On 21.04.2014, at 22:09, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Nice one, why not add a file browser as well ? Sure, maybe the text then needs a small update: > > <pharo-3-external-stack.png> > > > On 20 Apr 2014, at 12:09, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> <Screen Shot 2014-04-20 at 11.57.52.png><stack serialization with fuel.txt> >> On 15.04.2014, at 13:03, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> we are working on a new website for Pharo! We need your help. If you >>> have some time, please create and send us one of the following items: >>> >>> - An up-to-date screenshot of Pharo 3.0 that shows some cool features. >>> It should be 800px wide ; >>> - A screencast ; >>> - A paragraph (around 40 words) that presents a nice topic about Pharo >>> and a corresponding screenshot. >>> >>> We will select 1 large screenshot, 3 screencasts and 4 topic paragraphs. >>> >>> This could be a very nice way for you to contribute to Pharo! >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> -- >>> Damien Cassou >>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >>> >>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without >>> losing enthusiasm." >>> Winston Churchill >>> >> >

April 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] We need *you* for the upcoming Pharo's website

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Nice one, why not add a file browser as well ? On 20 Apr 2014, at 12:09, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > <Screen Shot 2014-04-20 at 11.57.52.png><stack serialization with fuel.txt> > On 15.04.2014, at 13:03, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> we are working on a new website for Pharo! We need your help. If you >> have some time, please create and send us one of the following items: >> >> - An up-to-date screenshot of Pharo 3.0 that shows some cool features. >> It should be 800px wide ; >> - A screencast ; >> - A paragraph (around 40 words) that presents a nice topic about Pharo >> and a corresponding screenshot. >> >> We will select 1 large screenshot, 3 screencasts and 4 topic paragraphs. >> >> This could be a very nice way for you to contribute to Pharo! >> >> Best, >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without >> losing enthusiasm." >> Winston Churchill >> >

April 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] how to completely ignore mouse wheel events?

by Nicolas Cellier

2014-04-17 18:13 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > Hi, > > On 17 Apr 2014, at 17:02, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > wrote: > > > I have modified the following methods > > HandMorph>>generateKeyboardEvent: evtBuf > > ScrollPane>>scrollByKeyboard: event > > > > The effect is now milder. > > > > Esteban, would it make sense to remove the event generation bu the VM? > This works only for the old-style mouse with an actual wheel. Mighty mouse > does not work at all with Pharo. > > no, that does not has sense. We need it. What we need is to improve the > events we have, not to remove them. > Less than 0.1% of computer-using mankind uses mighty mouse. The rest uses > regular mouses with old-fashion wheels (or trackpads, like myself). > So, removing is not a good idea. Not for VM, not for Pharo, and certainly > not for Moose either. > Improve is the way to go :) > > I'm in the 0.1% and though I handle the mouse as carefully as if it were a bubble of soap, those events are still popping in my face. Sadly, the impression is that it takes minutes to break and ages to fix... I hope the improvement is really decisive for the rest of the world, otherwise I'd like to say if you can't fix it, don't change it. > > > > We have to get this right. Emulation of events is a bad idea. > > Yes! I agree and the way we are following is to remove emulation and > transmit just raw events to the image (and let the image do the work of > handling them). > Now it will take time, but we are going in that direction. > > cheers, > Esteban > > ps: btwâ¦ scroll events also has problems in wheel-mouses, but those, Iâm > not sure is a problem of VM or Pharoâ¦ I need to go deeper then (any insight > would be cool) :) > > > > > Alexandre > > > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > On Apr 15, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > wrote: > > > >> Hi! > >> > >> Mouse wheel events are so poorly handled in Pharo, that they are not > useful. > >> With Ronie we are seeing how we can better handle events with a window > generated with SDL. But this is for the future. > >> > >> Is there a way to easily unable them? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Alexandre > >> -- > >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >

April 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Verifying Ubuntu downloads

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:22 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > After heartbleed, I've become more security-conscious/paranoid than usual. > Here's a little snippet that compares a downloaded Ubuntu iso file to the > MD5 provided via SSL by Ubuntu. Not foolproof, but more peace of mind than > crossing fingers and hoping for the best on the unsecured http mirrors... Your code sends #newTempFile but that doesn't exist. FileReference newTempfile. I tried in both Pharo 2 and 3. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

April 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] About fonts (again)

by Alexandre Bergel

It does not make sense. We should have nice font all the time. Thanks RMoD for taking care of this _crucial_ aspect of the system Alexandre On Apr 21, 2014, at 2:32 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > Hi > > when freetype is on do you think that it makes sense to have strikeFont > proposed as default fonts? Like it is done right now, I get bitmapVera even if I > want to see FreeType fonts. > > Stef > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

April 21, 2014

About fonts (again)

by stepharo

Hi when freetype is on do you think that it makes sense to have strikeFont proposed as default fonts? Like it is done right now, I get bitmapVera even if I want to see FreeType fonts. Stef

April 21, 2014

[Pharo-Dev] [Squeak-Dev] [vwnc] [VA-Smalltalk] [GemStone-Smalltalk] [Glass] [Seaside] [Seaside-Dev] Chalten little survey

by Maximiliano Taborda

Hello fellow smalltalkers. First of all, if you don't know what Chalten is, here you could discover it https://github.com/mtaborda/chalten. Is a time model that allows to use dates, months, years, etc. in an easy way. After some sabbatical years, I decided to finalize my thesis and get my degree. And, as part of the last part of the investigation, I be very grateful if you, users of Chalten (if there anyone anywhere), could answer these few questions: 1. What kind of use you give? (personal, in company, both) 2. Where you use it? (bussines area, company name if you can tell me that) 3. What for? (name of the system, or proyect with a brief description if it's possible) Please, include my personal email, mtaborda(a)gmail.com, in your reply. Excuse me if you receive this email more than once, I' sending to all the email lists that I have. Thank you very much for your answers. Kind Regards. Maxi.

April 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why GTPlayground is not api compatible with Workspace

by Tudor Girba

It seems that Andrei just beat me to implementing the proper API (thanks, Andrei :)). So, the issue is fixed. Let us know if you encounter more problems. Cheers, Doru On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 9:25 AM, pharo4Stef(a)free.fr <pharo4Stef(a)free.fr>wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I do not understand why GTPlayground in Moose replace Workspace and is >> accessed >> using Smalltalk tools workspace and does not offer the same interface >> than a Workspace. >> This is a bad design because now it forces me to have isKindOf: checks. >> Really annoying. >> > > That is only because I do not know what should be the Workspace interface. > I can easily adapt. Just tell me where you see the problems. > > Or and this is what I will do I will fix the fonts for Pharo and the >> system will break in >> Moose, after all I cannot fix everything. >> > > I do not understand what you mean. I adapted the fonts to match the new > interface since a couple of weeks. Did I miss anything? > > Cheers, > Doru > > >> >> Stef >> >> > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

April 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why GTPlayground is not api compatible with Workspace

by Tudor Girba

Hi, On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 9:25 AM, pharo4Stef(a)free.fr <pharo4Stef(a)free.fr>wrote: > Hi > > I do not understand why GTPlayground in Moose replace Workspace and is > accessed > using Smalltalk tools workspace and does not offer the same interface than > a Workspace. > This is a bad design because now it forces me to have isKindOf: checks. > Really annoying. > That is only because I do not know what should be the Workspace interface. I can easily adapt. Just tell me where you see the problems. Or and this is what I will do I will fix the fonts for Pharo and the system > will break in > Moose, after all I cannot fix everything. > I do not understand what you mean. I adapted the fonts to match the new interface since a couple of weeks. Did I miss anything? Cheers, Doru > > Stef > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

April 21, 2014