April 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] About fonts (again)

by Sergi Reyner

2014-04-22 8:21 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > I am not arguing for dropping of bitmap fonts at all. I am only arguing > for removing the option of not having freetype. People on slow devices will > still be able to use the bitmap fonts. > > Is that wrong? > Well, look at it this way: who should be able to have the final word on what side of the speed/prettiness dichotomy Pharo should be: the user or the system? Cheers, Sergi

April 22, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] updated documentation on magritte?

by Sean P. DeNigris

EstebanLM wrote > is there an updated documentation on magritte? where can I find it? I didn't find any. I was referencing a combination of the original papers, and slides I found online about the differences in Magritte 3. For Morphic, I implemented as I needed features, so there is none :/ ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/updated-documentation-on-magritte-tp4755692p4755740.h… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 22, 2014

Messages reported as spam by Gmail

by kilon alios

Please note that I found two threads reported as spam in my spam folder. One was about a competition for Roassal to create a visualisation with it and the second one was about a finder bug, both have not recieved any replies since then so this issue does not affect just me. So make sure you check your spam folder from time to time to ensure that people that ask questions get a reply and not get lost in other people spam folders assuming that people ignore them or that their questions are too stupid.

April 22, 2014

Pharo success story for Issys Tracking broken?

by Torsten Bergmann

http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories includes a story about scaling seaside. Unfortunately none of the links work. Any infos on that?

April 22, 2014

updated documentation on magritte?

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, is there an updated documentation on magritte? where can I find it? cheers, Esteban

April 22, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] About fonts (again)

by Tudor Girba

Hi, I think my message generated a misunderstanding. I am not arguing for dropping of bitmap fonts at all. I am only arguing for removing the option of not having freetype. People on slow devices will still be able to use the bitmap fonts. Is that wrong? Cheers, Doru On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Nicolas Cellier < nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > 2014-04-22 6:30 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > > One question is why do still have the disable free type fonts option? >> This was useful when free type was still in development, but I think now >> it is no longer useful. >> Or are there still use cases for it? >> >> Doru >> >> >> > At the risk of repeating myself (that's maybe 10 times I say it here, but > it's like shouting in the desert...) , > freetype is pretty inefficient because it displays characters one by one > (call a primitive foreach and every character). > So if you are on a not so fast device, strike fonts are still a good > option because the primitive displays groups of characters in a batch. > So please, please, please, for once before breaking things that works and > replacing them by a thing that works only partially, > do it the other way around: > - first make it fully work (that means add a new freetype primitive > displaying batch of chars) > - then drop any historical bits you want > > Of course, you are free to completely drop support for slow machines, but > it must be consciously. > > >> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:32 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> when freetype is on do you think that it makes sense to have strikeFont >>> proposed as default fonts? Like it is done right now, I get bitmapVera >>> even if I >>> want to see FreeType fonts. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

April 22, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] About fonts (again)

by Nicolas Cellier

2014-04-22 6:30 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > One question is why do still have the disable free type fonts option? > This was useful when free type was still in development, but I think now > it is no longer useful. > Or are there still use cases for it? > > Doru > > > At the risk of repeating myself (that's maybe 10 times I say it here, but it's like shouting in the desert...) , freetype is pretty inefficient because it displays characters one by one (call a primitive foreach and every character). So if you are on a not so fast device, strike fonts are still a good option because the primitive displays groups of characters in a batch. So please, please, please, for once before breaking things that works and replacing them by a thing that works only partially, do it the other way around: - first make it fully work (that means add a new freetype primitive displaying batch of chars) - then drop any historical bits you want Of course, you are free to completely drop support for slow machines, but it must be consciously. > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:32 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> when freetype is on do you think that it makes sense to have strikeFont >> proposed as default fonts? Like it is done right now, I get bitmapVera >> even if I >> want to see FreeType fonts. >> >> Stef >> >> > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" >

April 22, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] We need *you* for the upcoming Pharo's website

by Max Leske

On 22.04.2014, at 00:16, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > On 21 Apr 2014, at 22:51, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> On 21.04.2014, at 22:09, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> >>> Nice one, why not add a file browser as well ? >> >> Sure, maybe the text then needs a small update: >> >> <stack serialization with fuel.txt> > > Argh, I didn't see the text the first time; your explanation with the drag&drop makes the file browser (less/not) necessary. :p No problem. Now the description is more complete. > >>> <pharo-3-external-stack.png> >>> >>> >>> On 20 Apr 2014, at 12:09, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> <Screen Shot 2014-04-20 at 11.57.52.png><stack serialization with fuel.txt> >>>> On 15.04.2014, at 13:03, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>> >>>>> we are working on a new website for Pharo! We need your help. If you >>>>> have some time, please create and send us one of the following items: >>>>> >>>>> - An up-to-date screenshot of Pharo 3.0 that shows some cool features. >>>>> It should be 800px wide ; >>>>> - A screencast ; >>>>> - A paragraph (around 40 words) that presents a nice topic about Pharo >>>>> and a corresponding screenshot. >>>>> >>>>> We will select 1 large screenshot, 3 screencasts and 4 topic paragraphs. >>>>> >>>>> This could be a very nice way for you to contribute to Pharo! >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Damien Cassou >>>>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >>>>> >>>>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without >>>>> losing enthusiasm." >>>>> Winston Churchill >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > >

April 22, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] About fonts (again)

by Tudor Girba

One question is why do still have the disable free type fonts option? This was useful when free type was still in development, but I think now it is no longer useful. Or are there still use cases for it? Doru On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:32 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > Hi > > when freetype is on do you think that it makes sense to have strikeFont > proposed as default fonts? Like it is done right now, I get bitmapVera > even if I > want to see FreeType fonts. > > Stef > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

April 22, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Verifying Ubuntu downloads

by Sean P. DeNigris

On Apr 21, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Damien Cassou [via Smalltalk] <ml-node+s1294792n4755617h15(a)n4.nabble.com> wrote: > Your code sends #newTempFile but that doesn't exist. Argâ¦ forgot to specify a dependent package. Uploading a new config nowâ¦ should workâ¦ ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Verifying-Ubuntu-downloads-tp4754637p4755670.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 22, 2014