April 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] a Pharo talk from a ruby conference

by Tudor Girba

That is why we talk about Pharo as a cool, modern environment and language that is Smalltalk-inspired. We do not need to apologize because Pharo was never dead :). Doru On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Am 28.04.2014 um 18:58 schrieb kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: > > very cool presentation. Definitely you need to add this to the new > website. > > Question : Why in every presentation we have to apologise why smalltalk is > dead / extinct ? > > As a newcomer to Smalltalk I find it quite annoying. Its not as if I came > to Smalltalk without knowing that is not popular. The vast majority of > languages out there are so more unpopular than Smalltalk, yet they don't > have this "sorry that I am dead" mentality to them. > > +1 > > Well said. > > Norbert > > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > >> â¦ more a Smalltalk one using Pharo: >> >> MountainWest RubyConf 2014 >> >> Noel Rappin: "But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalkâ >> >> Smalltalk has mystique. We talk about it more than we use it. It seems >> like it should be so similar to Ruby. It has similar Object-Oriented >> structures, it even has blocks. But everything is so slightly different, >> from the programming environment, to the 1-based arrays, to the simple >> syntax. Using Smalltalk will make you look at familiar constructs with new >> eyes. Weâll show you how to get started on Smalltalk, and walk through some >> sample code. Live coding may be involved. Youâll never look at objects the >> same way again. >> >> >> http://www.confreaks.com/videos/3284-mwrc-but-really-you-should-learn-small… >> > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

April 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] a Pharo talk from a ruby conference

by Norbert Hartl

Am 28.04.2014 um 18:58 schrieb kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: > very cool presentation. Definitely you need to add this to the new website. > > Question : Why in every presentation we have to apologise why smalltalk is dead / extinct ? > > As a newcomer to Smalltalk I find it quite annoying. Its not as if I came to Smalltalk without knowing that is not popular. The vast majority of languages out there are so more unpopular than Smalltalk, yet they don't have this "sorry that I am dead" mentality to them. > +1 Well said. Norbert > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > â¦ more a Smalltalk one using Pharo: > > MountainWest RubyConf 2014 > > Noel Rappin: "But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalkâ > > Smalltalk has mystique. We talk about it more than we use it. It seems like it should be so similar to Ruby. It has similar Object-Oriented structures, it even has blocks. But everything is so slightly different, from the programming environment, to the 1-based arrays, to the simple syntax. Using Smalltalk will make you look at familiar constructs with new eyes. Weâll show you how to get started on Smalltalk, and walk through some sample code. Live coding may be involved. Youâll never look at objects the same way again. > > http://www.confreaks.com/videos/3284-mwrc-but-really-you-should-learn-small… >

April 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] a Pharo talk from a ruby conference

by phil＠highoctane.be

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:58 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > very cool presentation. Definitely you need to add this to the new > website. > > Question : Why in every presentation we have to apologise why smalltalk is > dead / extinct ? > > As a newcomer to Smalltalk I find it quite annoying. Its not as if I came > to Smalltalk without knowing that is not popular. The vast majority of > languages out there are so more unpopular than Smalltalk, yet they don't > have this "sorry that I am dead" mentality to them. > > Pharo is a strategic platform to me. Productivity on that thing cannot be beaten. Still had proof today when looking for a nasty bug. Phil > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > >> â¦ more a Smalltalk one using Pharo: >> >> MountainWest RubyConf 2014 >> >> Noel Rappin: "But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalkâ >> >> Smalltalk has mystique. We talk about it more than we use it. It seems >> like it should be so similar to Ruby. It has similar Object-Oriented >> structures, it even has blocks. But everything is so slightly different, >> from the programming environment, to the 1-based arrays, to the simple >> syntax. Using Smalltalk will make you look at familiar constructs with new >> eyes. Weâll show you how to get started on Smalltalk, and walk through some >> sample code. Live coding may be involved. Youâll never look at objects the >> same way again. >> >> >> http://www.confreaks.com/videos/3284-mwrc-but-really-you-should-learn-small… >> > >

April 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] a Pharo talk from a ruby conference

by kilon alios

very cool presentation. Definitely you need to add this to the new website. Question : Why in every presentation we have to apologise why smalltalk is dead / extinct ? As a newcomer to Smalltalk I find it quite annoying. Its not as if I came to Smalltalk without knowing that is not popular. The vast majority of languages out there are so more unpopular than Smalltalk, yet they don't have this "sorry that I am dead" mentality to them. On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > â¦ more a Smalltalk one using Pharo: > > MountainWest RubyConf 2014 > > Noel Rappin: "But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalkâ > > Smalltalk has mystique. We talk about it more than we use it. It seems > like it should be so similar to Ruby. It has similar Object-Oriented > structures, it even has blocks. But everything is so slightly different, > from the programming environment, to the 1-based arrays, to the simple > syntax. Using Smalltalk will make you look at familiar constructs with new > eyes. Weâll show you how to get started on Smalltalk, and walk through some > sample code. Live coding may be involved. Youâll never look at objects the > same way again. > > > http://www.confreaks.com/videos/3284-mwrc-but-really-you-should-learn-small… >

April 28, 2014

a Pharo talk from a ruby conference

by Marcus Denker

â¦ more a Smalltalk one using Pharo: MountainWest RubyConf 2014 Noel Rappin: "But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalkâ Smalltalk has mystique. We talk about it more than we use it. It seems like it should be so similar to Ruby. It has similar Object-Oriented structures, it even has blocks. But everything is so slightly different, from the programming environment, to the 1-based arrays, to the simple syntax. Using Smalltalk will make you look at familiar constructs with new eyes. Weâll show you how to get started on Smalltalk, and walk through some sample code. Live coding may be involved. Youâll never look at objects the same way again. http://www.confreaks.com/videos/3284-mwrc-but-really-you-should-learn-small…

April 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] 30838 and 837 *REVERTED*

by Sean P. DeNigris

Tudor Girba-2 wrote > Thank you, Marcus. + 100 ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/30838-and-837-REVERTED-tp4756773p4756799.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

by Mariano Martinez Peck

> > > Great to hear of small successes in reception of Pharo in the broader > community. Some ideas... > > 1. The most kick ass thing I can think of would go something like this... > a. Set up two computers nominally "customer" (or "webserver") and > "support team". Start the same image on each. > b. On the "customer" computer run some code that cause an error. In the > debugger Fuel-out to a USB stick. Show them the small size of the file. > c. On the "support team" computer, insert the USB stick and drag the > Fuel file into the image and start debugging. > Or the CI example were test failures are fueled out. This is a nice extension to the typical CI behavior. > Even better if the code that was running was a morph stepping across the > screen with some text inside counting up, and that counter and morph > position were maintained in the transition to the second computer - but I'm > not sure if Fuel would handle that. > > There is no way to know it but trying. The only problem could be that during the serialization, the traversed graph to serialize may be to big if it reaches to the display and all its world and related objects. Also, you may arrive to places that change so frequently like mouse position etc... This normally happens when you end up serializing the whole UI. In this case, it is likely the graph will change while you are serializing it...so you will be screw. Of course, if can hook a bit and cut the graph...but you should know in which place of your morph to cut. > 2. Parts of the Zinc quick start might be worthwhile... > http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/ > > 3. Pull up halos on a menu and drag a duplicate a menu item onto the > background, then show that it still works when it is clicked. Bring up the > halos again and inspect the morph where you can change the name of that > menu item. Exit Pharo and restart to show that the renamed menu item is > still there. > > 4. Some of Doru's "build a custom browser" demos of Glamorous Toolkit are > inspiring for how few lines of code are needed, but I don't have references. > > good luck, > cheers -ben > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

April 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN]: Little NeoJSON Helper

by Sean P. DeNigris

Sean P. DeNigris wrote > I improved the API a bit. Now, the mapping is done via class-side > #addNeoJsonMapTo: aNeoJSONReader. Of course, if I had RTFM (more thoroughly), I would've noticed that Sven already implemented that ;) So the hook is simply a default Class>>#neoJsonMapping: which brings up the helper if no class-side mapping is defined. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-Little-NeoJSON-Helper-tp4756763p4756798.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] 30838 and 837 *REVERTED*

by Tudor Girba

Thank you, Marcus. Doru On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > > On 28 Apr 2014, at 16:31, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > if you downloaded 30 838 (from today) or 30 837 please re-download 837. > > > > Both images where broken due to things that have to be done âjust before > the releaseâ, > > which are, of course, broken as they are only done just before the > release once a year. > > > > The 837 available now is ok: > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-4-Publish/ > > http://files.pharo.org/image/30/latest.zip > > Marcus > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

April 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

by Ben Coman

April 28, 2014