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[pharo-project/pharo-core] 73a336: 30841

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Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 73a33675f72753c66992c2a7d20739e35f02c576 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/73a33675f72753c66992c2a7… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2014-04-29 (Tue, 29 Apr 2014) Changed paths: R Polymorph-Widgets.package/Pharo3Theme.class/instance/border-styles-buttons/scrollbarImageColorFor_.st M Polymorph-Widgets.package/Pharo3Theme.class/instance/border-styles-scrollbars/scrollbarNormalThumbBorderStyleFor_.st R Polymorph-Widgets.package/Pharo3Theme.class/instance/fill-styles-buttons/buttonMouseOverFillStyleFor_.st M Polymorph-Widgets.package/Pharo3Theme.class/instance/fill-styles-buttons/buttonSelectedFillStyleFor_.st M Polymorph-Widgets.package/Pharo3Theme.class/instance/fill-styles-scrollbars/scrollbarNormalThumbFillStyleFor_.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script103.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30841.st M ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st Log Message: ----------- 30841 13136 Pharo3Theme scrollbars looking like dead without visual indicators https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13136 It was ok, I just restored the old scrollbar colors because the new ones are breaking completely the theme style. http://files.pharo.org/image/30/30841.zip

April 29, 2014

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/30840 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

April 29, 2014

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 88ae4d: 30840

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Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 88ae4d87b80779949f9f57e212034a6d4f3bf7a3 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/88ae4d87b80779949f9f57e2… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2014-04-29 (Tue, 29 Apr 2014) Changed paths: M Files.package/PharoChangesCondenser.class/instance/private - 1 writing/writeClassComment_.st M Files.package/PharoChangesCondenser.class/instance/private - 2 swapping/swapSourcePointerOfClassOrTrait_.st M Nautilus.package/Nautilus.class/class/cleanup/cleanUp.st M Nautilus.package/Nautilus.class/class/groups/lastModifiedClasses.st R Nautilus.package/Nautilus.class/class/groups/resetCachedLastClasses.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script102.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30840.st M ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st Log Message: ----------- 30840 11934 Last Modified Classed group in Nautilus does not work https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11934 13235 PharoSourcesCondenser: fix commentStamp to use class name https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13235 13234 After writing a new sources file, TClass class side methods have no source pointer https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13234 http://files.pharo.org/image/30/30840.zip

April 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

by Esteban Lorenzano

On 29 Apr 2014, at 11:03, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > how about the other way around ? > > Pharo being the front end , the IDE for amber, using Pharo to live code a website. That would be a very cool demo. Especially if Amber could leverage the Pharo debugger. Iâm trying to convince Nico to do that for *ages* but he does not sees the advantages/coolness of that approach. He has a clear path to enhance helios, thought :) Esteban > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Markus Fritsche <mfritsche(a)reauktion.de> wrote: > On 2014-04-28 17:17, Ben Coman wrote: > >> >> >> 1. The most kick ass thing I can think of would go something like this... >> > > The most "kick ass thing" I can think of is... > > - Have a Pharo World being interfaced to an amber frontend, so you can use your image through your browser. > > ... on second thought... that might be cool but after five minutes it'll make me think "and now?" > > > ;-) > > > >

April 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

by kilon alios

how about the other way around ? Pharo being the front end , the IDE for amber, using Pharo to live code a website. That would be a very cool demo. Especially if Amber could leverage the Pharo debugger. On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Markus Fritsche <mfritsche(a)reauktion.de>wrote: > On 2014-04-28 17:17, Ben Coman wrote: > > > > 1. The most kick ass thing I can think of would go something like this... > > > The most "kick ass thing" I can think of is... > > - Have a Pharo World being interfaced to an amber frontend, so you can use > your image through your browser. > > ... on second thought... that might be cool but after five minutes it'll > make me think "and now?" > > > > ;-) > > > >

April 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] a Pharo talk from a ruby conference

by kilon alios

The problem is that sometimes we overestimate how important "play well with others" is. In python we have the cpython vs jython / ironpython . Cpython is the popular choice which is python implemented in C. Ironpython is a compiler of python for .NET and jython a compiler for Java. The advantage of using .NET and especially Java libraries out of the box is obvious. Yet Jython and Ironpython are hardly popular , definitely less popular than Pharo. It seems that coders suffer on what I call "code narcissism syndrome" , it goes like this Jython : well I am python written in Java and I can use any Java library you want out of the box and even C libraries like Cpython coder : Wow cool Cpython : yes but all my libraries are written in python do you really want to mess with Java libraries ? coder: hmm, eh, no not really So my experience is that if you have something you really enjoy even though it may lack features you would find on a bigger system, you will still prefer to use that. Because there is a reason why you checked it out in the first place, you were really unhappy with the big system. So I am full supporter of the idea that pharo should make git integration, as well CLI , and other tools easier for those that want to use such external tools. But we should not worry too much about it. Afterall people change or try new languages because they are not satisfied with what they have already in their system. They want a fresh new approach to things. I was interested in pharo because python lacks a real python IDE. Most IDEs that Python uses are IDEs that follow "work well with others" concept but that concept sacrifices the advantages of having a closely integrated system like Pharo has. On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar(a)gmail.com>wrote: > On 29 April 2014 03:48, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > > Esteban A. Maringolo wrote > >> Plays well with "choose your favorite text editor" (Sublime, Vim, > >> etc.) and IDEs (RubyMine, etc.), with source control systems (any file > >> based system), with unix in general (several cli commands), has > >> binding for any major/mainstream library* (databases, network, etc.). > > > > But again these boil down to community size/interest > > - To use "your favorite text editor", Craig Latta serves Smalltalk via > > WebDav [1], but who has jumped at this opportunity? > > - source control - now that there is community interest, progress on git > > support has been moving ahead rapidly with minimal resources > > - unix in general - with FFI and OSProcess, what can't you do? Are we > > talking about the lack of cool Ruby backtick syntax? While definitely > cool, > > that special-purpose syntax is the kind of cognitive load Smalltalk > > overcomes. All those little syntactical twists and turns to remember lead > > away from "syntax on a T-shirt" to manuals with hundreds of pages > > - bindings - again, obviously just a question of community size and > interest > > Backtick syntax is largely bogus anyway. It's a minor string > interpolation trick with a special evaluation strategy. And I entirely > agree that Ruby has (way, WAY) too much syntax. > > > So the "play well with others" is a self-fulfilling prophecy. There are > no > > bindings because there are no people to write them because there are no > > bindings... At inception, Ruby (and every other language) didn't have > those > > bindings either. > > That's largely true, in the sense that someone needs to grab a shovel > to dig that trench. > > But if you start out with an external text editor, with an external > version control system, with (only) stdout/stderr/stdin, you end up > building a different system than if you're already in an insular > environment and want/need to learn to "play well with others". Ruby > plays well with other - interfaces well with external systems - > precisely because it didn't have that integrated environment. Now > sure, back in 1976 Smalltalk didn't either, but we're here in 2014, 18 > years after Squeak budded off Apple Smalltalk: a tightly integrated > environment is what we started from. > > frank > > > [1] > > > http://thiscontext.com/2011/06/09/my-favorite-text-editor-editing-a-spoon-w… > > > > > > > > ----- > > Cheers, > > Sean > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/a-Pharo-talk-from-a-ruby-conference-tp4756805p4756900… > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > >

April 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

by Markus Fritsche

On 2014-04-28 17:17, Ben Coman wrote: > 1. The most kick ass thing I can think of would go something like this... The most "kick ass thing" I can think of is... - Have a Pharo World being interfaced to an amber frontend, so you can use your image through your browser. ... on second thought... that might be cool but after five minutes it'll make me think "and now?" ;-)

April 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 0937b8: 30839

by Marcus Denker

On 29 Apr 2014, at 10:23, GitHub <noreply(a)github.com> wrote: > Branch: refs/heads/3.0 > Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core > Commit: 0937b85d745a2c5b064e784ac5535e6dea7fdc2f > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/0937b85d745a2c5b064e784a… > Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> > Date: 2014-04-29 (Tue, 29 Apr 2014) > > Changed paths: > M Athens-Cairo.package/TCairoLibrary.class/class/library path/nbLibraryNameOrHandle.st > M Files.package/PharoChangesCondenser.class/instance/private - 1 writing/writeClassComment_.st > M Files.package/PharoChangesCondenser.class/instance/private - 1 writing/writeMethodSource_.st > M Files.package/PharoChangesCondenser.class/instance/private/condenseClassOrTrait_.st > M ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script100.st > A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script101.st > M ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30838.st > A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30839.st > M ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st > M Slot.package/ClassModification.class/instance/testing/modifiesSharedVariables.st > A SlotTests.package/SlotIntegrationTest.class/instance/tests/testSlotScopeParallelism.st > M SlotTests.package/TOne.class/class/testing/classOne.st > M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/fileIn%2FOut/allSuperclassesFor_cache_.st > M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/fileIn%2FOut/doesNotIncludeInstanceOrSuperclassesFor_in_cache_.st > M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/fileIn%2FOut/fileOutPool_.st > M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/fileIn%2FOut/hasNoDependenciesForMetaclass_in_cache_.st > M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/fileIn%2FOut/hasNoSuperclassesOf_in_cache_.st > M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/fileIn%2FOut/superclassOrder_.st > M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/inquiries/rootsOfTheWorld.st > M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/instance creation/templateForSubclassOf_category_.st > M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/instance creation/template_.st > M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/private/hasNoDependenciesFor_in_cache_.st > M Zinc-System-Support.package/extension/SmalltalkImage/instance/downloadSources.st > M Zinc-Tests.package/ZnClientTests.class/instance/testing/testProgress.st > The changes recorded here are actually side=effects from git having stored the reverted changesâ¦ not nice but should not be a problemâ¦ Marcus

April 29, 2014

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 0937b8: 30839

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Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 0937b85d745a2c5b064e784ac5535e6dea7fdc2f https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/0937b85d745a2c5b064e784a… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2014-04-29 (Tue, 29 Apr 2014) Changed paths: M Athens-Cairo.package/TCairoLibrary.class/class/library path/nbLibraryNameOrHandle.st M Files.package/PharoChangesCondenser.class/instance/private - 1 writing/writeClassComment_.st M Files.package/PharoChangesCondenser.class/instance/private - 1 writing/writeMethodSource_.st M Files.package/PharoChangesCondenser.class/instance/private/condenseClassOrTrait_.st M ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script100.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script101.st M ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30838.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30839.st M ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st M Slot.package/ClassModification.class/instance/testing/modifiesSharedVariables.st A SlotTests.package/SlotIntegrationTest.class/instance/tests/testSlotScopeParallelism.st M SlotTests.package/TOne.class/class/testing/classOne.st M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/fileIn%2FOut/allSuperclassesFor_cache_.st M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/fileIn%2FOut/doesNotIncludeInstanceOrSuperclassesFor_in_cache_.st M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/fileIn%2FOut/fileOutPool_.st M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/fileIn%2FOut/hasNoDependenciesForMetaclass_in_cache_.st M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/fileIn%2FOut/hasNoSuperclassesOf_in_cache_.st M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/fileIn%2FOut/superclassOrder_.st M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/inquiries/rootsOfTheWorld.st M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/instance creation/templateForSubclassOf_category_.st M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/instance creation/template_.st M Traits.package/TClass.class/class/private/hasNoDependenciesFor_in_cache_.st M Zinc-System-Support.package/extension/SmalltalkImage/instance/downloadSources.st M Zinc-Tests.package/ZnClientTests.class/instance/testing/testProgress.st Log Message: ----------- 30839 Error when loading a MC version that removes a class-side variable https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13231 http://files.pharo.org/image/30/30839.zip

April 29, 2014

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/30839 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

April 29, 2014