April 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/30845 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

April 29, 2014

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 53f1db: 30845

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Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 53f1db4e540f52d0ca636cfeb2d0951ab99f49b7 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/53f1db4e540f52d0ca636cfe… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2014-04-29 (Tue, 29 Apr 2014) Changed paths: R ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script100.st R ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script101.st R ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script102.st R ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script103.st R ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script104.st R ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script105.st R ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script106.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script107.st R ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30837.st R ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30838.st R ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30839.st R ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30840.st R ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30841.st R ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30842.st R ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30843.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30845.st M ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st Log Message: ----------- 30845 - workspace - cleanups http://files.pharo.org/image/30/30845.zip

April 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

by Marcus Denker

On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:29, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Without any information on what has been changed these GitHub messages are almost pure noise. It's more than tedious to expect someone to follow the link to get more info. Can the system not include at least the commit comment? > There are two mails: 1) useless 2) it has *everything* -> changed methods and classes -> commit comments -> Link to get the diffs very nicely formatted. Sadly we did not find a way to turn of this one useless mail. There is sadly no option. > Eliot (phone) > > On Apr 29, 2014, at 4:12 AM, GitHub <noreply(a)github.com> wrote: > >> Branch: refs/tags/30843 >> Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core >

April 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

by Eliot Miranda

Without any information on what has been changed these GitHub messages are almost pure noise. It's more than tedious to expect someone to follow the link to get more info. Can the system not include at least the commit comment? Eliot (phone) On Apr 29, 2014, at 4:12 AM, GitHub <noreply(a)github.com> wrote: > Branch: refs/tags/30843 > Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

April 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

by Nicolas Petton

Esteban Lorenzano writes: >> Pharo being the front end , the IDE for amber, using Pharo to live code a website. That would be a very cool demo. Especially if Amber could leverage the Pharo debugger. > > Iâm trying to convince Nico to do that for *ages* but he does not sees > the advantages/coolness of that approach. Esteban, That is just not true (and unfair). I in fact started a project called Nemo with Ben some time ago but my time is limited just like everyone else. People have worked on it since then, but AFAIK it's still far from being complete. Cheers, Nico

April 29, 2014

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/30844 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

April 29, 2014

[pharo-project/pharo-core] e619ad: 30844

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Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: e619adda13ca6dcd51b7c760b5d71494b09ffdd7 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/e619adda13ca6dcd51b7c760… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2014-04-29 (Tue, 29 Apr 2014) Changed paths: A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script106.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30844.st M ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st A Slot.package/PharoClassInstaller.class/instance/notifications/sharedVariableOrSharedPoolChangedFrom_to_by_.st R Slot.package/SlotClassBuilder.class/instance/accessing/client_.st A Slot.package/SlotClassBuilder.class/instance/deprecated/client_.st M Slot.package/SlotClassBuilder.class/instance/private/applyAndUpdateSharedVariableOrSharedPool_.st A SlotTests.package/SlotMigrationTest.class/instance/tests/testAddSharedVariableKeepSubclasses.st A SlotTests.package/SlotMigrationTest.class/instance/tests/testChangeSuperclass.st Log Message: ----------- 30844 13028 Adding ClassVariables corrupts class hierarchy https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13028 http://files.pharo.org/image/30/30844.zip

April 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842

by Esteban A. Maringolo

Great news!!! Thanks people. Hopefully in Pharo 4 we won't need source files anymore :) Esteban A. Maringolo 2014-04-29 7:53 GMT-03:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > Hi, > > We have a sources file for Pharo3! > > http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV30.sources.zip > http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV30.sources > > > The image that goes with it is 30 842 or newer. > zipped image is now 5MB smaller due to the empty changes. > > http://files.pharo.org/image/30/ > > this now needs some careful testingâ¦ the build is green > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/ > > > > > > Marcus > > > >

April 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:05, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Am 29.04.2014 um 14:19 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: > >> Tested on Mac OS X: >> >> $ mkdir pharo3 >> $ cd pharo3/ >> $ curl get.pharo.org/vm | bash >> $ curl get.pharo.org/30 | bash >> $ ./pharo-ui Pharo.image >> > Just a side note. You know there is a > > get.pharo.org/30+vm > > ? Yes. Of course I know ;-) I was explicitly going step by step since the source were new. > Norbert > >> Loaded some configurations, ran some tests, recompiled all. All OK. >> >> Super ! >> >> On 29 Apr 2014, at 12:53, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> We have a sources file for Pharo3! >>> >>> http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV30.sources.zip >>> http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV30.sources >>> >>> >>> The image that goes with it is 30 842 or newer. >>> zipped image is now 5MB smaller due to the empty changes. >>> >>> http://files.pharo.org/image/30/ >>> >>> this now needs some careful testingâ¦ the build is green >>> >>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

April 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Amber-Pharo based coding dojo in a coworking space

by kilon alios

Sorry I meant "Do you seriously believe people will give *up* JS for Amber alternatives ? " On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I was talking mainly about the IDE and other areas where Pharo and Amber > overlap. I think Amber is awesome for what it is and should be kept > developed independently. > > "If your ass is being kicked by AngularJS <https://angularjs.org/> or > Meteor <https://www.meteor.com/> because you reach the goal faster using > those, your next contract is not to be powered by Amber." > > is this not the cases if you cannot beat them join them ? Do you seriously > believe Amber or Pharo can compete AngularJS , correct me if I am wrong, > when behind this framework is Google itself ? > > "In regard to Pharo, becoming Amber friendly is âattracting javascript > people to the smalltalk worldâ are you joking? is the best marketing > strategy Pharo can dream about!" > > Did I said anything against that ? I agree that is great. > > "With some add ons Amber can do the things Meteor does in the front end." > > Thats all great but again I ask why not leverage the power of Meteor.js > for Amber and Pharo in the first place and sprinkle it with some smalltalk > libraries to bring it closer to Smalltalk philosophy ? Isnt this the whole > point of doing OOP, to reuse code ? > > Why should it be Amber / Pharo vs the Others ? Instead as "Amber a way to > make your favorite javascript libraries even easier and more accessible / > dynamic" > > Do you seriously believe people will give JS for Amber alternatives ? > > No thats not a best marketing strategy. > >

April 29, 2014