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March 2014

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Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus keyboard behavior

by Benjamin

On 20 Mar 2014, at 21:38, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > That doesnât work for me. (Mavericks mac, 30798 with slice 13100) I will have a look then :) > Ah found them. cmd-t-g cmd-t-p cmd-t-h > Let me rephrase that: can we have a way to discover that? Perhaps info on hover or so? There is a helper in the window menu (black arrow in the top rift corner) with the list and description of all the shortcut available :) Ben

March 20, 2014

Pharo on Debian 7

by jannik laval

Hi, I tried to load Pharo portable on a Debian. It seems to not work. Anyone can confirm that this is not my config that is broken ? Cheers, -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/

March 20, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus keyboard behavior

by Stephan Eggermont

Ben wrote in response to my questions >cmd+crt+left/right arrow Ah thank you. That works to switch back all the way to the package pane. The package pane captures cmd+ctrl+left arrow and translates it into up on the selection. > >How do I open the menu on one of the top panes in Nautilus? >Do you need menu when you have shortcut for menu items? Hmm, good question. Mostly to have keyboard access to refactorings. Shortcuts would work there too. Once I had the ability to navigate the menu with the keyboard I expected to be able to open it. > >How do I open the History navigator? >By tabbing to it and pressing arrow down? That doesnât work for me. (Mavericks mac, 30798 with slice 13100) > >Iâd expect groups and hierarchy to be selectable with a key combination > >when the packages pane is selected. >They are Ah found them. cmd-t-g cmd-t-p cmd-t-h Let me rephrase that: can we have a way to discover that? Perhaps info on hover or so? Stephan

March 20, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Weird indenting with #with:

by Sergi Reyner

2014-03-20 19:38 GMT+00:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: > I have been using the auto formatter with Seaside rendering code too, and > I found it weird at times as well. The problem seems to be related to > blocks. It is of course hard to argue with something automatic that is > quite complex and over which there are many opinions. I have basically > given up to worry about it and just accept it. It is either that or manual > formatting, but that is hard when doing lots of source code refactorings. > I just found out that adding #with: to the array in the 'Multi line messages' setting reduces the number of tabs to 2, which is somewhat more acceptable. IÂ´m not sure about it breaking some other formatting or not. I guess I will find out it thatÂ´s the case :) Cheers, Sergi

March 20, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Weird indenting with #with:

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

I have been using the auto formatter with Seaside rendering code too, and I found it weird at times as well. The problem seems to be related to blocks. It is of course hard to argue with something automatic that is quite complex and over which there are many opinions. I have basically given up to worry about it and just accept it. It is either that or manual formatting, but that is hard when doing lots of source code refactorings. On 20 Mar 2014, at 20:30, Sergi Reyner <sergi.reyner(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2014-03-20 19:23 GMT+00:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > I do not understand what your problem is. > If is bad indented, you can always reformat. Source formatting is not pharo responsibility but the programmer (unless you use pretty printer, which is not the case). > > Well, thatÂ´s not how *I* formatted the code originally. I typed it and then pressed Ctrl+Shift+F, and thatÂ´s what I ended up with. I was expecting just one tab. > > Now, if you tell me that itÂ´s supposed to be indented like that (with three tabs instead of one) by the formatter, then IÂ´ll say nothing else :) > > IÂ´m running #30798. > > Cheers, > Sergi

March 20, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Weird indenting with #with:

by Camille Teruel

On 20 mars 2014, at 20:30, Sergi Reyner <sergi.reyner(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2014-03-20 19:23 GMT+00:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > I do not understand what your problem is. > If is bad indented, you can always reformat. Source formatting is not pharo responsibility but the programmer (unless you use pretty printer, which is not the case). > > Well, thatÂ´s not how *I* formatted the code originally. I typed it and then pressed Ctrl+Shift+F, and thatÂ´s what I ended up with. I was expecting just one tab. > > Now, if you tell me that itÂ´s supposed to be indented like that (with three tabs instead of one) by the formatter, then IÂ´ll say nothing else :) No that's definitively a bug. It seems to happen to blocks that are arguments in cascaded messages. > > IÂ´m running #30798. > > Cheers, > Sergi

March 20, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Weird indenting with #with:

by Esteban Lorenzano

On 20 Mar 2014, at 20:30, Sergi Reyner <sergi.reyner(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2014-03-20 19:23 GMT+00:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > I do not understand what your problem is. > If is bad indented, you can always reformat. Source formatting is not pharo responsibility but the programmer (unless you use pretty printer, which is not the case). > > Well, thatÂ´s not how *I* formatted the code originally. I typed it and then pressed Ctrl+Shift+F, and thatÂ´s what I ended up with. I was expecting just one tab. > > Now, if you tell me that itÂ´s supposed to be indented like that (with three tabs instead of one) by the formatter, then IÂ´ll say nothing else :) nah, you have been a victim of pretty printâ¦ not the best tool present in the image, IMOâ¦ there is people who like it. I think the result is a piece of s**t :) > > IÂ´m running #30798. > > Cheers, > Sergi

March 20, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Weird indenting with #with:

by Sergi Reyner

2014-03-20 19:23 GMT+00:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > I do not understand what your problem is. > If is bad indented, you can always reformat. Source formatting is not > pharo responsibility but the programmer (unless you use pretty printer, > which is not the case). > Well, thatÂ´s not how *I* formatted the code originally. I typed it and then pressed Ctrl+Shift+F, and thatÂ´s what I ended up with. I was expecting just one tab. Now, if you tell me that itÂ´s supposed to be indented like that (with three tabs instead of one) by the formatter, then IÂ´ll say nothing else :) IÂ´m running #30798. Cheers, Sergi

March 20, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Weird indenting with #with:

by Esteban Lorenzano

I do not understand what your problem is. If is bad indented, you can always reformat. Source formatting is not pharo responsibility but the programmer (unless you use pretty printer, which is not the case). cheers, Esteban On 20 Mar 2014, at 18:49, Sergi Reyner <sergi.reyner(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Is this weird indenting after the two #with: normal? :S > > Cheers, > Sergi > <pharo.image_001.png>

March 20, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Seaside] [ANN] Pharo and ST books page (as another Seaside demo on PharoCloud)

by Torsten Bergmann

Stef wrote: > This is a nice idea but you should pay attention that I would prefer to have a forward > (books.pharo.org) to my pages because I signed agreement to some publisher saying > that the pdf will only be on this page. Hi Stef, as you can imagine it is not my goal to bring you in legal trouble. I dont know the agreements in detail but I see no violations as the PDFs are only linked and still reside/stay on your site. So the page are just links to the original books just with a different presentation form more specialed to focus on Pharo. The page also includes updated links where to buy these books in case someone needs printed paper. As it is more focused on Pharo (than just ST) I additionally intend to link to tutorials as well in the near future. They are hard to find for newbees that do now follow closely the announcements on the mailinglist. To honor your collection and its original creator (= you) even more I now additionally added an info at the top including a link to your original page. Regarding update: I added you to the source project on STHub. I guess the book collection is not updated very often as new ST books are (unfortunately) not written daily. Hope this is OK for now. In any other case tell me. Independent from that I think in the future we should provide a "Pharo Store" with apps, images, frameworks (configs), books, videos and tutorials. Would be a fun project to write in Seaside with a better local config browser to access all these but "Shhh...." I can not tell you more in advance - there may be already something in the pipe ;) Thx T.

March 20, 2014

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