March 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] DateAndTime>>#= slow?

by Esteban A. Maringolo

2014-03-27 12:21 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > On 27 Mar 2014, at 12:14, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> On 27 Mar 2014, at 15:46, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Will the fix be available for Pharo 2 builds as well? >> >> I knew you were going to ask that, but I don't know. The whole Chronology package was changed quite a lot going from 2.0 -> 3.0 >> >> On the other hand, my changes are pretty comprehensible (a couple of methods), somebody could certainly try to backport them - but no guarantees they will work though. > > pharo3 is at the corner to be out. > we are not integrating/backporting changes to pharo2 since... well, like 6 months. > so no, it will not be there and it will not be integrated. What is the support strategy for stable versions? Pharo 3 is still beta/release-candidate, so... strictly speaking Pharo 2 is the official stable version. Shouldn't it get support as such? If resource scarcity rules here, I'll understand. > said so... anyone can do their own backport and put it for others in a meta repo :) It will be so. :) Esteban A. Maringolo

March 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] DateAndTime>>#= slow?

by Esteban A. Maringolo

2014-03-27 12:14 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: > On 27 Mar 2014, at 15:46, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Will the fix be available for Pharo 2 builds as well? > I knew you were going to ask that, but I don't know. :) > The whole Chronology package was changed quite a lot going from 2.0 -> 3.0 I know, but this is a "bugfix" not a feature enhancement or is it? :) I know Pharo 3 is uber cool, and way better... but... you'll understand. > On the other hand, my changes are pretty comprehensible (a couple of methods), somebody could certainly try to backport them - but no guarantees they will work though. I could give them a try. If all tests passes I can contribute the patch back. I have no hurry to fix this. But, but cutting ~40% of response time is a lot in web terms :) Regards,

March 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] DateAndTime>>#= slow?

by Esteban Lorenzano

On 27 Mar 2014, at 12:14, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > On 27 Mar 2014, at 15:46, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Will the fix be available for Pharo 2 builds as well? > > I knew you were going to ask that, but I don't know. The whole Chronology package was changed quite a lot going from 2.0 -> 3.0 > > On the other hand, my changes are pretty comprehensible (a couple of methods), somebody could certainly try to backport them - but no guarantees they will work though. pharo3 is at the corner to be out. we are not integrating/backporting changes to pharo2 sinceâ¦ well, like 6 months. so no, it will not be there and it will not be integrated. said soâ¦ anyone can do their own backport and put it for others in a meta repo :) Esteban

March 27, 2014

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March 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] DateAndTime>>#= slow?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 27 Mar 2014, at 15:46, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Will the fix be available for Pharo 2 builds as well? I knew you were going to ask that, but I don't know. The whole Chronology package was changed quite a lot going from 2.0 -> 3.0 On the other hand, my changes are pretty comprehensible (a couple of methods), somebody could certainly try to backport them - but no guarantees they will work though.

March 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] DateAndTime>>#= slow?

by Esteban A. Maringolo

2014-03-27 11:17 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: > Umbrella issue: > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13139/Speed-Regressions-in-DateAndTime > > I rewrote (and simplified) DateAndTime>>#+ #- #= > I added caching for #epoch > I switched the localTimeZone to an #asFixedTimeZone variant > > My benchmark now runs 40x FASTER than in Pharo 1.4 > > All Chronology tests remain green. Thank you very much Sven. Will the fix be available for Pharo 2 builds as well? > I will upload slices when the funding goal of 1,000,000 USD is reached on https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1003214829/improve-pharo-dateandtime-p… > > PS: Half of the funds will go to Camillo for making DateAndTime work in UTC internally ;-) I have some issues transfering big amounts of money overseas. > PS2: I am not sure I am allowed to fix this so close to release, is it a feature or a bug fix ? ;-) If it's a feature it has to be in the changelog ;-) Thank you again! :) Esteban A. Maringolo

March 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Help needed] Issuer tracker TODO Pharo3

by Pharo4Stef

I would love to have the time and internet access :( On 27 Mar 2014, at 13:22, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi, > > There are 23 issues open for Pharo3 > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/64/3-0-TODO > > > In general, it would be nice if more people would care about > > -> testing and reviewing proposed fixes > -> just keeping the issue tracker healthy > > > Marcus >

March 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Help needed with Pharo3 ChangeLog

by phil＠highoctane.be

I cleaned up the heading styles for the second part. Rewrote some headings for a nicer wording. What would be cool is to have screenshots for the tools. Phil On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > > On 27 Mar 2014, at 13:24, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > On 27 Mar 2014, at 13:21, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > > How can one edit the page? > > Maybe you need special rights... for me there is an edit button. > > I will check > > > Ok, I think I fixed it. Know everyone with an account can edit. > > Marcus > >

March 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] DateAndTime>>#= slow?

by phil＠highoctane.be

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: > > On 27 Mar 2014, at 15:17, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > > My benchmark now runs 40x FASTER than in Pharo 1.4 > > Wow, very impressive and nice! > Thanks for taking care of that. > Can't wait to test it here ;-) > > > I will upload slices when the funding goal of 1,000,000 USD is reached > on > https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1003214829/improve-pharo-dateandtime-p… > > I wanted to donate but the link is invalid :p > Yeah, same here :-) > > > PS: Half of the funds will go to Camillo for making DateAndTime work in > UTC internally ;-) > > Yes, this is obviously the major leap and the comments on the performance > issue should not overshadow that work! > Thank you! > > Johan >

March 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] DateAndTime>>#= slow?

by Johan Brichau

On 27 Mar 2014, at 15:17, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > My benchmark now runs 40x FASTER than in Pharo 1.4 Wow, very impressive and nice! Thanks for taking care of that. Can't wait to test it here ;-) > I will upload slices when the funding goal of 1,000,000 USD is reached on https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1003214829/improve-pharo-dateandtime-p… I wanted to donate but the link is invalid :p > PS: Half of the funds will go to Camillo for making DateAndTime work in UTC internally ;-) Yes, this is obviously the major leap and the comments on the performance issue should not overshadow that work! Thank you! Johan

March 27, 2014