March 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Phratch one-click

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! Iâve tried and it works well. I also tried some tutorial about Scratch. I had a look at http://car.mines-douai.fr/2014/01/624/ But I am not sure how to open a browser Cheers, Alexandre On Mar 1, 2014, at 8:30 AM, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dears, > > Phratch has now a portable version: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick/ > > Thanks to JB Arnaud, the Jenkins is configured to take the latest one-click Pharo for each platform and install all the necessary (Plugins, pngâ¦). > > Now, no need to install anything: just download the zip file for your platform, unzip it and run Phratch. > > Enjoy ! > > -- > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

March 4, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Creativity - a Smalltalk usability experiment on browsing code and productivity

by Alexandre Bergel

This is because I was on the iphone. On the laptop I see it Cheers, Alexandre On Mar 4, 2014, at 12:14 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > I cannot see the screenshot > > Alexandre > > Le 03-03-2014 Ã 21:51, Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com> a Ã©crit : > >> great idea! done... >> >> pushed! >> >> take a look now >> >> >> >> On Mar 3, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Sergi Reyner <sergi.reyner(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> 2014-03-04 0:15 GMT+00:00 Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com>: >>> Hi Smalltalker! >>> >>> After a talk with Thierry I was encouraged to publish this weekendâs experiment, so there it is: >>> https://github.com/sebastianconcept/Creativity >>> It would be great to have your feedback/input >>> >>> ONE screenshot would be immensely engaging!! >>> >>> IÂ´ll play with it tomorrow if I have the time :) >>> >> -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

March 4, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Creativity - a Smalltalk usability experiment on browsing code and productivity

by btc＠openinworld.com

March 4, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] UX problem in debugger

by Benjamin

On 04 Mar 2014, at 11:15, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > A simple, quick solution would be to do an #inform: telling what was written where. In Pharo this then becomes a growl like non-obstrusive thing. Sounds more like a hack than a solution :) Ben

March 4, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] UX problem in debugger

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

A simple, quick solution would be to do an #inform: telling what was written where. In Pharo this then becomes a growl like non-obstrusive thing. On 04 Mar 2014, at 10:36, Jan Vrany <jan.vrany(a)fit.cvut.cz> wrote: > Hi Max, > > thanks, I already found it, remembering that the same UX flaw for > "File out" is there ever since Squeak days. > > > Files are saved to the image directory as âDebuggerâ¦â > > The real question here is: How should I know? I was merely saying > that usability/UX of tools is, say, poor (this is not the only > issue I run into in first 10 minutes of work :-) That's all :-) > > Jan > > >> >> Cheers, >> Max >> >> >> On 04.03.2014, at 00:49, Jan Vrany <jan.vrany(a)fit.cvut.cz> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Just a comment on user interface: >>> I found a bug (#13035) and wanted to attach fueled stacktrace to report. >>> So I selected "Fuel out Stack". Oops, nothing happened. My first reaction was "aha, another bug". >>> >>> What one would expect is a file dialog asking where do I want to save the file. Or at least info where the file has be saved would be much much better :-) Same for file out in browser... >>> >>> Best, Jan >>> >> >> >> > >

March 4, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Creativity - a Smalltalk usability experiment on browsing code and productivity

by phil＠highoctane.be

Nautilus plugins are in need of some love. The senders/implementors... buttons can be in such a thing. I added the finder plugin and it is very useful. Phil On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Didn't tried yet, but looks nice. > Cool you have included the Senders & Implementors buttons, I miss them in > Nautilus :) > > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > > > > 2014-03-03 21:15 GMT-03:00 Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com');> > >: > >> Hi Smalltalker! >> >> After a talk with Thierry I was encouraged to publish this weekend's >> experiment, so there it is: >> https://github.com/sebastianconcept/Creativity >> >> Creativity is the prototype of a Smalltalk browser biased on: >> >> - productivity and >> - the development experience and >> - the creative flow <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology)> of >> the software developer >> >> >> I'm releasing it in the open so the idea can spread its own wings >> >> I wish I could dedicate more to this because it provides the feeling and >> the UX of the tool we would use to code every day regardless of the >> Smalltalk dialect of your choice. >> >> For the tests I've done, the design's results are promising, needs more >> work thou >> >> It would be great to have your feedback/input >> >> sebastian <https://about.me/sebastianconcept> >> >> o/ >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- --- Philippe Back Visible Performance Improvements Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail:phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium Pharo Consortium Member - http://consortium.pharo.org/ Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast - http://spamcast.libsyn.com Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value Added Reseller

March 4, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] UX problem in debugger

by Max Leske

On 04.03.2014, at 10:36, Jan Vrany <jan.vrany(a)fit.cvut.cz> wrote: > Hi Max, > > thanks, I already found it, remembering that the same UX flaw for > "File out" is there ever since Squeak days. > > > Files are saved to the image directory as âDebuggerâ¦â > > The real question here is: How should I know? I was merely saying > that usability/UX of tools is, say, poor (this is not the only > issue I run into in first 10 minutes of work :-) That's all :-) I totally agree :) > > Jan > > >> >> Cheers, >> Max >> >> >> On 04.03.2014, at 00:49, Jan Vrany <jan.vrany(a)fit.cvut.cz> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Just a comment on user interface: >>> I found a bug (#13035) and wanted to attach fueled stacktrace to report. >>> So I selected "Fuel out Stack". Oops, nothing happened. My first reaction was "aha, another bug". >>> >>> What one would expect is a file dialog asking where do I want to save the file. Or at least info where the file has be saved would be much much better :-) Same for file out in browser... >>> >>> Best, Jan >>> >> >> >> > >

March 4, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] UX problem in debugger

by Jan Vrany

Hi Max, thanks, I already found it, remembering that the same UX flaw for "File out" is there ever since Squeak days. > Files are saved to the image directory as âDebuggerâ¦â The real question here is: How should I know? I was merely saying that usability/UX of tools is, say, poor (this is not the only issue I run into in first 10 minutes of work :-) That's all :-) Jan > > Cheers, > Max > > > On 04.03.2014, at 00:49, Jan Vrany <jan.vrany(a)fit.cvut.cz> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Just a comment on user interface: >> I found a bug (#13035) and wanted to attach fueled stacktrace to report. >> So I selected "Fuel out Stack". Oops, nothing happened. My first reaction was "aha, another bug". >> >> What one would expect is a file dialog asking where do I want to save the file. Or at least info where the file has be saved would be much much better :-) Same for file out in browser... >> >> Best, Jan >> > > >

March 4, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Creativity - a Smalltalk usability experiment on browsing code and productivity

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Sebastian, That is a cool, clean browser indeed. I especially like the fact that you build a prototype instead of just talking about it: that is the way to do it, invent the future. I do fail to see exactly what is different about it, can you explain that ? Sven On 04 Mar 2014, at 01:15, Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com> wrote: > Hi Smalltalker! > > After a talk with Thierry I was encouraged to publish this weekendâs experiment, so there it is: > https://github.com/sebastianconcept/Creativity > Creativity is the prototype of a Smalltalk browser biased on: > > â¢ productivity and > â¢ the development experience and > â¢ the creative flow of the software developer > > Iâm releasing it in the open so the idea can spread its own wings > > I wish I could dedicate more to this because it provides the feeling and the UX of the tool we would use to code every day regardless of the Smalltalk dialect of your choice. > > For the tests Iâve done, the designâs results are promising, needs more work thou > > It would be great to have your feedback/input > > sebastian > > o/

March 4, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Creativity - a Smalltalk usability experiment on browsing code and productivity

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Didn't tried yet, but looks nice. Cool you have included the Senders & Implementors buttons, I miss them in Nautilus :) Cheers, HernÃ¡n 2014-03-03 21:15 GMT-03:00 Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com>: > Hi Smalltalker! > > After a talk with Thierry I was encouraged to publish this weekendâs > experiment, so there it is: > https://github.com/sebastianconcept/Creativity > > Creativity is the prototype of a Smalltalk browser biased on: > > - productivity and > - the development experience and > - the creative flow <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology)> of > the software developer > > > Iâm releasing it in the open so the idea can spread its own wings > > I wish I could dedicate more to this because it provides the feeling and > the UX of the tool we would use to code every day regardless of the > Smalltalk dialect of your choice. > > For the tests Iâve done, the designâs results are promising, needs more > work thou > > It would be great to have your feedback/input > > sebastian <https://about.me/sebastianconcept> > > o/ > > > > > >

March 4, 2014