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Unethical behaviour on GSoC 2010 (was The truth on GSOC, ESUG and bad attitude)

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Time therefore to expose that sad story from GSoC 2010. So that the community can judge by themselves if my claims are insults or real. For the start, this was not a money matter but meddling into project selection process. Here is the story: On GSoC 2010 Gilad Bracha proposed a Newspeak/Smalltalk Import/Export Tool project idea [1]. After the idea was put on ideas list [2], StÃ©phane Ducasse ordered my co-admin to remove Gilad's idea from the list. Co-admin told that to me. I was shocked that someone can come to such an idea to remove something even in the idea phase from the GSoC. Of course I rejected such an order immediately. Even more, co-admin was at that time just starting the postgraduade study under the Mr.Ducasse mentorship. You can imagine how he felt, like between two fires. It is reasonable therefore to suspect that Mr.Duccase uses his power as a mentor over postgraduate student to try to achieve his goal. What was the motivation of Mr.Ducasse to made such a blatant act was not quite clear to me. And is also not important. Important is that such removal attempts are totally unacceptable. Only GSoC mentors have that right by reviewing and voting on the projects to be finally selected for stipendiums. In any case, this incident was a start of my thinking and working on GSoC to be as transparent, neutral and independent as possible. Best regards Janko [1] http://gsoc2010.esug.org/projects/newspeak-tool [2] http://gsoc2010.esug.org/ideas Dne 10. 02. 2014 15:30, piÅ¡e StÃ©phane Ducasse: > I can tell you that until now I took that as a little crisis of Janko but now this makes me sick. > I do not think that I will stand in the same room than him in the future. > > Sorry Janko you are insulting people publicly but you mention that you don't. > I will check if I have a lawyer to handle this situation because you cannot have just words against me. > I will check with the inria lawyer first. > > Stef > > > >> I do not understand the motivation of Janko, especially since he is apparently alone to think that way. >> It is impressive to see how fragile the community is. >> Thanks Paolo and thanks the ESUG board for handling this difficult situation! >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >> On Feb 10, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >> >>> I support it, too. >>> >>> The only path to action I see is to act. And in this situation, Paolo was the only one that offered a pragmatic way out. Thank you, Paolo! :) >>> >>> So, I suggest this: >>> - we take Marcus' suggestion and have the present issue be handled at the next ESUG general assembly. Like this we ensure that the problem is going to be addressed in a more effective environment (namely, more structured, and not via mail). >>> - we go forward with Paolo as an admin. Like this we ensure that action happens now. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> I support this, along with a general require that you keep this discussion in private. >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>> On 10 Feb 2014, at 12:10, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: >>> >>>> I no longer have confidence in Janko running as GSoC admin >>>> and want Paolo to take over as admin for Esug as mentoring organisation. >>>> >>>> Stephan Eggermont >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Esug-list mailing list >>>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Every thing has its own flow" >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Smalltalk GSoC mentors" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to smalltalk-gsoc-mentors+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Smalltalk GSoC Admin Team

Feb. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Trying to change the color of the window

by phil＠highoctane.be

Looks like colors have got a significant change... So, try: Color registerColor: (Color r: 0.0 g:1.0 b:0.0) named: #white. and things will be very green. Phil On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:51 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am trying to make a dark theme for pharo. So I was studying the > subclasses of UITheme class. As a first step I want to darken the color of > the windows , so I used newDefaultSettings class method to change the > color, and I saw no effect. I also even tried to use the right arrow drop > down menu that has an entry with window color and still I see no effect. > > Is this a bug ? > > I think I remember this used to work in Pharo 3. > > I am on Pharo 3 and using image 30753 which I fetched today with > PharoLauncher. > > I would like to also ask if there is any documentation of themes and > morphic around to help me customize the look its something really crucial > for my project Ephestos and I would hate having to recreate Morphic from > scratch to do this. Because as it is I find it very hard to understand the > methods of UITheme. >

Feb. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Trying to change the color of the window

by phil＠highoctane.be

Esteban has started a dark theme based on Darcula. I am eager to see/get some code based on that as a dark theme is really interesting for me due to eye problems. I tried with 2.0 but frankly, it is a massive mess to get things to diplay properly. One thing I did to see where things where happening is that I made Color white to respond something like a nuclear green instead of white and see where it was showing. Then you can pick the morphs and browse them. That's where you start crying. 3.0 should be in a better shape. Phil On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:51 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am trying to make a dark theme for pharo. So I was studying the > subclasses of UITheme class. As a first step I want to darken the color of > the windows , so I used newDefaultSettings class method to change the > color, and I saw no effect. I also even tried to use the right arrow drop > down menu that has an entry with window color and still I see no effect. > > Is this a bug ? > > I think I remember this used to work in Pharo 3. > > I am on Pharo 3 and using image 30753 which I fetched today with > PharoLauncher. > > I would like to also ask if there is any documentation of themes and > morphic around to help me customize the look its something really crucial > for my project Ephestos and I would hate having to recreate Morphic from > scratch to do this. Because as it is I find it very hard to understand the > methods of UITheme. >

Feb. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [gsoc-mentors] Re: [Esug-list] The truth on GSOC, ESUG and bad attitude

by Marcus Denker

On 10 Feb 2014, at 16:35, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > So, if i understood correctly, > ESUG spent more money last year running GSoC than it received from Google. > Which literally means ESUG budget lost some money. > > Shall any students/mentors/ESUG affiliates be enraged about that fact? > Or did smalltalk community in general lost because of that? > > I may be wrong (because sure thing i am biased asshole), but as to me both answers will be 'no'. > We even *decided* to spend more money, because people told us it would be unfair if not (and they where right). I just remembered the discussion, not that we even solved that already last year. The whole discussion started because of my mail and I am kicking myself for having send it in the first place: THERE WAS NO PROBLEM LAST YEAR. We just need to think about what to do this year, this is what I wanted to say in the original mail, because what we did last year we could do last year but not again. Now this mail will not help anything and just add to the messâ¦ I am really sorry for having started the whole discussion. (instead of a relaxing weekend to be productive I am now an unproductive mess after a weekend without sleepâ¦ not good). Marcus

Feb. 10, 2014

Trying to change the color of the window

by kilon alios

I am trying to make a dark theme for pharo. So I was studying the subclasses of UITheme class. As a first step I want to darken the color of the windows , so I used newDefaultSettings class method to change the color, and I saw no effect. I also even tried to use the right arrow drop down menu that has an entry with window color and still I see no effect. Is this a bug ? I think I remember this used to work in Pharo 3. I am on Pharo 3 and using image 30753 which I fetched today with PharoLauncher. I would like to also ask if there is any documentation of themes and morphic around to help me customize the look its something really crucial for my project Ephestos and I would hate having to recreate Morphic from scratch to do this. Because as it is I find it very hard to understand the methods of UITheme.

Feb. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [gsoc-mentors] Re: [Esug-list] The truth on GSOC, ESUG and bad attitude

by Igor Stasenko

So, if i understood correctly, ESUG spent more money last year running GSoC than it received from Google. Which literally means ESUG budget lost some money. Shall any students/mentors/ESUG affiliates be enraged about that fact? Or did smalltalk community in general lost because of that? I may be wrong (because sure thing i am biased asshole), but as to me both answers will be 'no'. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Feb. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem adding "animation" protocol

by J.F. Rick

Yes, I think it has to do with that. If I press "OK", then the error happens. If I press "Enter", then it selects "zoom animation", which is not what I wanted. That makes more sense. Cheers, Jeff On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Camille Teruel <camille.teruel(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > On 10 fÃ©vr. 2014, at 14:00, J.F. Rick <self(a)je77.com> wrote: > > I was trying to add an "animation" method protocol for a class. When I > did, the browser ceased to function. It seems like it broke the viewer. I > had to quite without saving and recover my changes. I have no problems > adding other protocols. Is "animation" reserved for something? > > > Protocols are just an organization mean and shouldn't bear semantic > meaning. So normally, there is no reserved protocol. > Is this bug related to case 12412? > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12412/protocol-selection-dialog-returns-e… > > > Cheers, > > Jeff > > -- > Jochen "Jeff" Rick, Ph.D. > http://www.je77.com/ > Skype ID: jochenrick > > > -- Jochen "Jeff" Rick, Ph.D. http://www.je77.com/ Skype ID: jochenrick

Feb. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem adding "animation" protocol

by Camille Teruel

On 10 fÃ©vr. 2014, at 14:00, J.F. Rick <self(a)je77.com> wrote: > I was trying to add an "animation" method protocol for a class. When I did, the browser ceased to function. It seems like it broke the viewer. I had to quite without saving and recover my changes. I have no problems adding other protocols. Is "animation" reserved for something? Protocols are just an organization mean and shouldn't bear semantic meaning. So normally, there is no reserved protocol. Is this bug related to case 12412? https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12412/protocol-selection-dialog-returns-e… > > Cheers, > > Jeff > > -- > Jochen "Jeff" Rick, Ph.D. > http://www.je77.com/ > Skype ID: jochenrick

Feb. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem adding "animation" protocol

by phil＠highoctane.be

Tried on a fresh 30 Adding it the first time doesn't add it (there is a "zoom animation" protocol listed) Adding it twice succeeds. But the system isn't freezing. Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30753 Windows 8.1 Weird indeed. Phil

Feb. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Esug-list] The truth on GSOC, ESUG and bad attitude

by Johan Fabry

+1 on this. On Feb 10, 2014, at 9:14 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > I support it, too. > > The only path to action I see is to act. And in this situation, Paolo was the only one that offered a pragmatic way out. Thank you, Paolo! :) > > So, I suggest this: > - we take Marcus' suggestion and have the present issue be handled at the next ESUG general assembly. Like this we ensure that the problem is going to be addressed in a more effective environment (namely, more structured, and not via mail). > - we go forward with Paolo as an admin. Like this we ensure that action happens now. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I support this, along with a general require that you keep this discussion in private. > > Esteban > > On 10 Feb 2014, at 12:10, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > > > I no longer have confidence in Janko running as GSoC admin > > and want Paolo to take over as admin for Esug as mentoring organisation. > > > > Stephan Eggermont > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Esug-list mailing list > > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Feb. 10, 2014