February 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] GSoC: call for ideas

by Damien Cassou

Project idea Description: Make Pharo a scripting language with its syntax and command-line tools (http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/coral/) Skill level: intermediate Name of the mentor: Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>, DamienCassou on IRC (freenode) On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi fellow Pharo hackers, > > ESUG, the European Smalltalk User Group, is applying for this > year's Google Summer of Code. As you probably know, the Summer > of Code provides the opportunity to fund students to work during > the summer on Pharo. Please reply to this > email (be sure to use "Reply to all") if you have ideas you > would like to propose. > > Please include a summary of the project and links to web pages > that can help prospective students to write their application. > Please also include the following information: > > - if applicable, other dialects that you would be willing to > mentor this project for > > - the skill level > > - name of the mentor(s), email addresses, and possibly any IRC > network/channel/nickname where they can be found. > > Thanks for contributing to ESUG's Summer of Code application! > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Feb. 11, 2014

NB and assembly methods (WAS: a lot of non-constructive things I refuse to talk about :)

by Esteban Lorenzano

> > PS. I am hacking on protobuf in Pharo 3.0 and noticed cool NB assembler in some places - are such methods creeping into base libraries now? What does that mean for other CPUs? Sorry, for changing subject - feel free to reply under different subject. Hi Goran, Yesâ¦ since NB and Athens, there are some methods in assembler spread around. Is my opinion that all assembler-containing methods should be refactored into a more comprensible unit (and that can be changed by another set of assembly instrucction when we achieve multiplatform-NB). Today they are all along Athens, and if we continue this path they will be all along Pharo soon. I would better modularise that. But Igor maybe has something different to say :) Esteban

Feb. 11, 2014

GSoC: call for ideas

by Damien Cassou

Hi fellow Pharo hackers, ESUG, the European Smalltalk User Group, is applying for this year's Google Summer of Code. As you probably know, the Summer of Code provides the opportunity to fund students to work during the summer on Pharo. Please reply to this email (be sure to use "Reply to all") if you have ideas you would like to propose. Please include a summary of the project and links to web pages that can help prospective students to write their application. Please also include the following information: - if applicable, other dialects that you would be willing to mentor this project for - the skill level - name of the mentor(s), email addresses, and possibly any IRC network/channel/nickname where they can be found. Thanks for contributing to ESUG's Summer of Code application! -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Feb. 11, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playing an mp3

by jannik laval

Hi Noury, You can use PharoSound. Here is the info for metacello: == spec project: 'Sound' with: [ spec className: 'ConfigurationOfPharoSound'; file: 'ConfigurationOfPharoSound' ; version: #stable; repository: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoExtras/Sound/main'. ]. == Jannik 2014-02-11 9:58 GMT+01:00 Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com>: > Hi, > > Which library should I use for playing sounds in general and mp3 in > particular? > > Thanks, > Noury > -- > http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi > http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury > > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/

Feb. 11, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Esug-list] Unethical behaviour on GSoC 2010 (was The truth on GSOC, ESUG and bad attitude)

by GÃ¶ran Krampe

Hi Igor and all! On 02/10/2014 11:56 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: [SNIP] > Just to give you +1 on the Smalltalk family part. I mean, hell, > we even share the VM! > > And I am not sure people understand how important this has been > for us Squeak/Pharooners, AFAIK a LOT of the work from Eliot has > been done through Newspeakish money, right? > > > Yes. I've worked for Cadence twice. Once in 2007 to 2008 where I > first worked on the Squeak interpreter and added immutability. Form > there, now familiar with VMMaker I went to Qwaq and got to create > Cog. I'm now back at Cadence and able to continue to work on Cog. > In particular, Spur has only been possible because of my boss at > Cadence, Yaron Kashai. At Cadence we're using Newspeak to implement > systems for SoaC integration. Without Newspeak there would be no > Spur. WIthout Newspeak the Cog VM would not be nearly as developed > or reliable. > > I don't want to stoke the flames but I do hope that the community > will consider Newspeak as part of the Smalltalk family. It is > definitely a blood relative. Don't treat it like a black sheep. > > > I am not arguing whether Newspeak belongs to smalltalk family or not > (clearly it is). > The point is that 'S' letter in ESUG stands for Smalltalk, not Newspeak. > (else we should be naming it properly - ENUG). > So, the question is whether any non-smalltalk project is eligible to run > and compete (because there is limited number of slots) with smalltalk > projects under ESUG umbrella? Well, first of all I was actually *not* talking about that particular incident (whatever took place, I have no idea) - my mistake to not make that clear - I merely wanted to note that we should stick together as a family *in general*. Gilad should really feel that IMHO. Nevertheless just like Dennis noted - Pharo doesn't start with an "S" - hell, it even uses the phrase "Smalltalk inspired" to distance itself and make clear that hey, this is not a Smalltalk! And Pharo has Traits so is it "Smalltalk"? :) Amber doesn't even have globals (!) so is Amber "a Smalltalk"? And the fact that Newspeak actually *shares the VM* with Pharo and Squeak - that indicates a pretty strong connection, don't you think? Much stronger than Amber many would argue... And oh, Amber actually *claims* to be a Smalltalk ;) On the other hand it wants to be compatible with Pharo which claims to be only "inspired"... oh, darnit! Just kidding (well, 50% serious perhaps) Igor, I get what you mean, just getting a bit philosophical here, I haven't had my morning coffee... :) > If ESUG would take such road, i bet soon you will find many angry mentors, > who was outvoted/outnumbered by "cool" PHP-MySql web projects. Hehe, ok, PHP is NOT a Smalltalk. ;) regards, GÃ¶ran PS. I am hacking on protobuf in Pharo 3.0 and noticed cool NB assembler in some places - are such methods creeping into base libraries now? What does that mean for other CPUs? Sorry, for changing subject - feel free to reply under different subject.

Feb. 11, 2014

[GSoC ideas] Pharo

by Guillermo Polito

Ok, let's do this :) Hola Pharoers, ESUG, the European Smalltalk User Group, is applying for this year's Google Summer of Code. As you probably know, the Summer of Code provides the opportunity to fund students to work during the summer on Smalltalk, and Pharo. Please reply to this email (be sure to use "Reply to all") if you have ideas you would like to propose. Please include a summary of the project and links to web pages that can help prospective students to write their application. Please also include the following information: - if applicable, other dialects that you would be willing to mentor this project for - the skill level - name of the mentor(s), email addresses, and possibly any IRC network/channel/nickname where they can be found. Thanks for contributing to ESUG's Summer of Code application! Guille

Feb. 11, 2014

Playing an mp3

by Noury Bouraqadi

Hi, Which library should I use for playing sounds in general and mp3 in particular? Thanks, Noury -- http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury

Feb. 11, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] How I feel

by Igor Stasenko

On 11 February 2014 07:53, Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef(a)free.fr> wrote: > Hi guys > > I want to share how I feel with you. > I feel like a guy trying to run 100 m competition against JS, Ruby, > Python, Luaâ¦ > and have shoes like that > > > http://www.google.fr/imgres?start=159&client=safari&rls=en&biw=1244&bih=690… > > What a wonderful community we have. I understand now deeply the quote: > âtake care of my enemys I will care of my âfriendsââ or the inverse > I know one that says: watch closely your friends, watch your enemies even closely. > So we as a Pharo community will have to really think about our future and > what we want to achieve because this is important > > No need to reply. > > PS: Iâm the one that invited Gilad to give a presentation to ESUG at > Amsterdam and invited to our lab and > gilad was the positive reviewer of our inria team for the one that got a > really short memory. > > > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Feb. 11, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] How I feel

by Peter H. Meadows

It's a neverending story, not a sprint. Claws could come in feety. On 11 February 2014 07:09, Ron Teitelbaum <ron(a)usmedrec.com> wrote: > Could be worse! > > http://goo.gl/N3UUwl > > : ) > > Ron > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of >> Pharo4Stef >> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:54 AM >> To: Pharo Development List >> Subject: [Pharo-dev] How I feel >> >> Hi guys >> >> I want to share how I feel with you. >> I feel like a guy trying to run 100 m competition against JS, Ruby, > Python, Lua. >> and have shoes like that >> >> http://www.google.fr/imgres?start=159&client=safari&rls=en&biw=1244&bih=6 >> 90&tbm=isch&tbnid=vq8gjl3T15cVZM%3A&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei. >> com%2Fcategory%2F40004332&docid=mvOZJ02O8NS_jM&imgurl=http%3A%2F >> %2Fwww.rei.com%2Fmedia%2Fhh%2F6144d334-5261-479e-85a0- >> 800161b61cdc.jpg&w=1623&h=2000&ei=aMf5UrOALYX80QWA- >> IGAAg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=578&page=7&ndsp=28&ved=0CNoBEK0DMEY4ZA >> >> What a wonderful community we have. I understand now deeply the quote: >> "take care of my enemys I will care of my 'friends'" or the inverse So we > as a >> Pharo community will have to really think about our future and what we > want to >> achieve because this is important >> >> No need to reply. >> >> PS: I'm the one that invited Gilad to give a presentation to ESUG at > Amsterdam >> and invited to our lab and gilad was the positive reviewer of our inria > team for >> the one that got a really short memory. >> >> >> > > >

Feb. 11, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] I love the new catalog and now you can create the metadata easily :)

by phil＠highoctane.be

Stef, Read on. To be successful you need to keep on trucking no matter what. #resilience #persistence #keeprunning http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/27/startups-don't-die-they-commit-suicide/ Phil On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef(a)free.fr> wrote: > Yes click that link: > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoProjectCatalog/HTML_Report/ > ? > > So I imagine that you are all like me: you are too busy to add the correct > information > because you do not know what/how/. > > So I created a little class: called CatalogAdder for you and me :P > > > > I'm a simple utility class that add methods to ConfigurationOf class to > declare catalog metadata. > > Gofer new > smalltalkhubUser: 'DamienCassou' project: 'Pier-Gutemberg'; > package: 'CatalogAdder'; > load > > (CatalogAdder on: ConfigurationOfXXX) > defineCatalogMetadata > > and it creates all the methods with dummy template for you :) > > Stef >

Feb. 11, 2014