February 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Connection closed while waiting for data in bootstrapped image

by Pavel Krivanek

(NetNameResolver addressForName: 'www.esug.org') returns good value... -- Pavel 2014-02-17 9:32 GMT+01:00 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>: > Hi, > > thank you for the tip. It seems that it is not directly Zinc related. But > if you want something to play with, do: > > - load the bootstrapped image: > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Pharo-Kernel-3.0/job/PharoKerne… > > ./pharo PharoKernel.image fix.st > ./pharo PharoKernel.image loadNetwork.st > ./pharo PharoKernel.image testNetwork.st > > The CI slaves revolt now so I cannot make it more comfortable :-) > > Cheers, > -- Pavel > > > > > 2014-02-16 22:58 GMT+01:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: > > Hi Pavel, >> >> On 16 Feb 2014, at 22:23, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi Sven, >> > >> > we can successfully load network packages to the bootstrapped image but >> when we try to test it using: >> > >> > ZnClient new get: 'http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/numbers.txt'. >> > >> > we get "ConnectionClosed: Connection closed while waiting for data" >> error after few seconds. Do you have some idea, what may be wrong? Probably >> something is not initialized well but I have no clue what. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > -- Pavel >> >> Hard to say. I would guess that you are already on the point of waiting >> for a server response, so you already successfully initialised networking, >> resolved DNS, opened a TCP socket and wrote the request over it. On the >> other hand, one of those steps might not have been done right, since you >> get no response. >> >> Any chance of a stack trace ? Or an image ? But that would be a headless >> one I guess ;-) >> >> Sven >> >> >> >> >

Feb. 17, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] CMS status

by phil＠highoctane.be

Ha, this ease of hosting question. 1- Ease of hosting Thing is that mod_php and PHP itself are easy to compile for almost any distro. With Pharo that's not so easy (64-bit platforms requiring 32-bit libs and some dark tricks to get right [e.g. using experimental debian repos for libc, which no sane hosting company would allow]. We need to come to par with this platform ubiquity if we want to be wider spread. 2- Process vs on-request PHP-based solutions mostly have the request->apache->mod_php->scripts->db and back roundtrip. When there is no client, there is no CPU, no nothing used. This allows to pile on users in a shared hosting as there is usually not that much traffic. With the current Pharo+Seaside combo for example, we do have an always running pharo process taking away CPU cycles. That's not too good for shared hosting and platforms like EC2 where we pay based on that. As my thinking goes, I find interesting to have a FastCGI interface for pure Pharo (until we possibly have a mod_pharo) so that pharo becomes a first class scripting option for simple web applications. With the new command line and environment access, that's not that hard to do. Is there anyone using pharo in such a configuration? Phil On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi guys, > > this weekend I was unlucky enough to work with WordPress and all it's > shitty php. Now obvious question is what is the status of Pharo-based CMSes > and how they can be hosted. Right now I'm looking for a free solution. Yes, > I know that developers also want to eat, but, usually people use (for > example) WordPress, because they can put it on a free php hosting, and I > cannot promote Pharo-based solutions if you have to py for them in a first > place. Also from CMS point of view, I'm aware of Pier, but is it the best > thing that I should look into? > > Uko >

Feb. 17, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is wrong with Settings Browser ?

by jannik laval

Argh, You are right, I forgot to change PackageOrganizer to RPackageOrganizer. Thank you. I am waiting for the integration. Cheers, Jannik 2014-02-17 9:47 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de>: > Works for me. > > Tested with: > SettingBrowser new setViewedPackageNames: 'Settings-Network'; open > or > SettingBrowser new changePackageSet: {RPackageOrganizer default > packageNamed: 'Settings-Network' ifAbsent:[]}; open. > > does not work with: > > SettingBrowser new changePackageSet: {PackageOrganizer default > packageNamed: 'Settings-Network' ifAbsent:[]}; open. > > > Nicolai > > > > > 2014-02-17 9:28 GMT+01:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>: > > Hi Doru, >> >> I just tried your slice. >> I have not the time to inspect it, but it does not work: I have a setting >> browser that is open but it is empty. >> >> Cheers, >> Jannik >> >> >> 2014-02-17 9:20 GMT+01:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>: >> >> Thank you guys, >>> >>> Jannik >>> >>> >>> 2014-02-17 8:34 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: >>> >>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:23 AM, nicolaihess(a)googlemail.com < >>>> nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Mon Feb 17 07:18:18 2014 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > Hi, >>>>> > >>>>> > No need to guess :). The main problem is that the System Browser is >>>>> using >>>>> > PackageInfo instead of RPackage. >>>>> > >>>>> > Take a look at the analysis I did on this case (yes, I used some >>>>> fancy >>>>> > tools): >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/making-the-pharo-settings-browser-ope… >>>>> > >>>>> > Both the problem and the slice are documented here: >>>>> > >>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12897/System-Browser-is-slow-when-opened-… >>>>> > >>>>> > Cheers, >>>>> > Doru >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 8:27 PM, <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > > I guess (i do not know) that it relies on pragma and therefore it >>>>> scans >>>>> > > the whole system >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Luc >>>>> > > >>>>> > > EnvoyÃ© de mon iPhone >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Le 15 fÃ©vr. 2014 Ã 07:51, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> a >>>>> > > Ã©crit : >>>>> > > >>>>> > > It means it opens only preferences related to this package. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Jannik >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > 2014-02-15 0:07 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel < >>>>> alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: >>>>> > > >>>>> > > > What does it mean to open a Setting Browser on a package? >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > Alexandre >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:30 PM, jannik laval < >>>>> jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> >>>>> > > > wrote: >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > > Hi pharoers, >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > I have a small problem with Settings Browser: when I open it >>>>> on a >>>>> > > > single package settings, it is really slow. >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > Just try it. >>>>> > > > > Opening a Settings browser is fast (213ms on my machine): >>>>> > > > > == >>>>> > > > > SettingBrowser new open >>>>> > > > > == >>>>> > > > > Now, with a specific package name, it is really slow (5284ms >>>>> on my >>>>> > > > machine !!!): >>>>> > > > > == >>>>> > > > > SettingBrowser new setViewedPackageNames: 'Settings-Network'; >>>>> open. >>>>> > > > > == >>>>> > > > > or this line: >>>>> > > > > == >>>>> > > > > SettingBrowser new changePackageSet: {PackageOrganizer default >>>>> > > > packageNamed: 'Settings-Network' ifAbsent:[]}; open. >>>>> > > > > == >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > I don't understand what is wrong. Any idea ? >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > Cheers, >>>>> > > > > -- >>>>> > > > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ >>>>> > > > > Ãcole des Mines de Douai >>>>> > > > > Enseignant-chercheur >>>>> > > > > http://www.jannik-laval.eu >>>>> > > > > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > -- >>>>> > > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>> > > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>> > > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > -- >>>>> > > >>>>> > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ >>>>> > > Ãcole des Mines de Douai >>>>> > > Enseignant-chercheur >>>>> > > http://www.jannik-laval.eu >>>>> > > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> > >>>>> > "Every thing has its own flow" >>>>> >>>>> Hi Tudor, >>>>> >>>>> thank you for investigating this. >>>>> >>>>> I changed the title for this report >>>>> System -> Settings >>>>> >>>>> nicolai >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "Every thing has its own flow" >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >>> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >>> Enseignant-chercheur >>> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >>> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >> Enseignant-chercheur >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >> > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/

Feb. 17, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is wrong with Settings Browser ?

by Nicolai Hess

Works for me. Tested with: SettingBrowser new setViewedPackageNames: 'Settings-Network'; open or SettingBrowser new changePackageSet: {RPackageOrganizer default packageNamed: 'Settings-Network' ifAbsent:[]}; open. does not work with: SettingBrowser new changePackageSet: {PackageOrganizer default packageNamed: 'Settings-Network' ifAbsent:[]}; open. Nicolai 2014-02-17 9:28 GMT+01:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>: > Hi Doru, > > I just tried your slice. > I have not the time to inspect it, but it does not work: I have a setting > browser that is open but it is empty. > > Cheers, > Jannik > > > 2014-02-17 9:20 GMT+01:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>: > > Thank you guys, >> >> Jannik >> >> >> 2014-02-17 8:34 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: >> >> Thanks. >>> >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:23 AM, nicolaihess(a)googlemail.com < >>> nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon Feb 17 07:18:18 2014 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >>>> > Hi, >>>> > >>>> > No need to guess :). The main problem is that the System Browser is >>>> using >>>> > PackageInfo instead of RPackage. >>>> > >>>> > Take a look at the analysis I did on this case (yes, I used some >>>> fancy >>>> > tools): >>>> > >>>> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/making-the-pharo-settings-browser-ope… >>>> > >>>> > Both the problem and the slice are documented here: >>>> > >>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12897/System-Browser-is-slow-when-opened-… >>>> > >>>> > Cheers, >>>> > Doru >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 8:27 PM, <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > I guess (i do not know) that it relies on pragma and therefore it >>>> scans >>>> > > the whole system >>>> > > >>>> > > Luc >>>> > > >>>> > > EnvoyÃ© de mon iPhone >>>> > > >>>> > > Le 15 fÃ©vr. 2014 Ã 07:51, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> a >>>> > > Ã©crit : >>>> > > >>>> > > It means it opens only preferences related to this package. >>>> > > >>>> > > Jannik >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > 2014-02-15 0:07 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: >>>> >>>> > > >>>> > > > What does it mean to open a Setting Browser on a package? >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Alexandre >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:30 PM, jannik laval < >>>> jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> >>>> > > > wrote: >>>> > > > >>>> > > > > Hi pharoers, >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > I have a small problem with Settings Browser: when I open it on >>>> a >>>> > > > single package settings, it is really slow. >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > Just try it. >>>> > > > > Opening a Settings browser is fast (213ms on my machine): >>>> > > > > == >>>> > > > > SettingBrowser new open >>>> > > > > == >>>> > > > > Now, with a specific package name, it is really slow (5284ms on >>>> my >>>> > > > machine !!!): >>>> > > > > == >>>> > > > > SettingBrowser new setViewedPackageNames: 'Settings-Network'; >>>> open. >>>> > > > > == >>>> > > > > or this line: >>>> > > > > == >>>> > > > > SettingBrowser new changePackageSet: {PackageOrganizer default >>>> > > > packageNamed: 'Settings-Network' ifAbsent:[]}; open. >>>> > > > > == >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > I don't understand what is wrong. Any idea ? >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > Cheers, >>>> > > > > -- >>>> > > > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ >>>> > > > > Ãcole des Mines de Douai >>>> > > > > Enseignant-chercheur >>>> > > > > http://www.jannik-laval.eu >>>> > > > > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > -- >>>> > > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> > > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> > > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > -- >>>> > > >>>> > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ >>>> > > Ãcole des Mines de Douai >>>> > > Enseignant-chercheur >>>> > > http://www.jannik-laval.eu >>>> > > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > www.tudorgirba.com >>>> > >>>> > "Every thing has its own flow" >>>> >>>> Hi Tudor, >>>> >>>> thank you for investigating this. >>>> >>>> I changed the title for this report >>>> System -> Settings >>>> >>>> nicolai >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Every thing has its own flow" >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >> Enseignant-chercheur >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >> > > > > -- > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >

Feb. 17, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Package for manage USB - RS232

by Goubier Thierry

Hi, I'm also interested by an answer to that question. So far, what I have as status is: you need a plugin to handle communications with the serial port (either for direct RS232 or USB-to-Serial) and compiling the serial port plugin with the Pharo VM makes it unstable. The solution we used was: to compile the serial plugin for the squeak VM and work in Squeak (4.3) instead of Pharo. Thierry Le 16/02/2014 16:28, Dario Trussardi a Ã©crit : > Hi, > > > i work with: Pharo1.Latest update: #14445 ( or with: Pharo2.0 Latest update: #20628 ). > > > I'm interested to manage communications with USB or RS232 device. > > > I can find package which support this protocol? > > Thank for any considerations ? > > Dario > > > > > -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

Feb. 17, 2014

CMS status

by Yuriy Tymchuk

Hi guys, this weekend I was unlucky enough to work with WordPress and all itâs shitty php. Now obvious question is what is the status of Pharo-based CMSes and how they can be hosted. Right now Iâm looking for a free solution. Yes, I know that developers also want to eat, but, usually people use (for example) WordPress, because they can put it on a free php hosting, and I cannot promote Pharo-based solutions if you have to py for them in a first place. Also from CMS point of view, Iâm aware of Pier, but is it the best thing that I should look into? Uko

Feb. 17, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Connection closed while waiting for data in bootstrapped image

by Pavel Krivanek

Hi, thank you for the tip. It seems that it is not directly Zinc related. But if you want something to play with, do: - load the bootstrapped image: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Pharo-Kernel-3.0/job/PharoKerne… ./pharo PharoKernel.image fix.st ./pharo PharoKernel.image loadNetwork.st ./pharo PharoKernel.image testNetwork.st The CI slaves revolt now so I cannot make it more comfortable :-) Cheers, -- Pavel 2014-02-16 22:58 GMT+01:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: > Hi Pavel, > > On 16 Feb 2014, at 22:23, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Sven, > > > > we can successfully load network packages to the bootstrapped image but > when we try to test it using: > > > > ZnClient new get: 'http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/numbers.txt'. > > > > we get "ConnectionClosed: Connection closed while waiting for data" > error after few seconds. Do you have some idea, what may be wrong? Probably > something is not initialized well but I have no clue what. > > > > Cheers, > > -- Pavel > > Hard to say. I would guess that you are already on the point of waiting > for a server response, so you already successfully initialised networking, > resolved DNS, opened a TCP socket and wrote the request over it. On the > other hand, one of those steps might not have been done right, since you > get no response. > > Any chance of a stack trace ? Or an image ? But that would be a headless > one I guess ;-) > > Sven > > > >

Feb. 17, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is wrong with Settings Browser ?

by jannik laval

Hi Doru, I just tried your slice. I have not the time to inspect it, but it does not work: I have a setting browser that is open but it is empty. Cheers, Jannik 2014-02-17 9:20 GMT+01:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>: > Thank you guys, > > Jannik > > > 2014-02-17 8:34 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > > Thanks. >> >> Doru >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:23 AM, nicolaihess(a)googlemail.com < >> nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: >> >>> On Mon Feb 17 07:18:18 2014 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > No need to guess :). The main problem is that the System Browser is >>> using >>> > PackageInfo instead of RPackage. >>> > >>> > Take a look at the analysis I did on this case (yes, I used some fancy >>> > tools): >>> > >>> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/making-the-pharo-settings-browser-ope… >>> > >>> > Both the problem and the slice are documented here: >>> > >>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12897/System-Browser-is-slow-when-opened-… >>> > >>> > Cheers, >>> > Doru >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 8:27 PM, <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > > I guess (i do not know) that it relies on pragma and therefore it >>> scans >>> > > the whole system >>> > > >>> > > Luc >>> > > >>> > > EnvoyÃ© de mon iPhone >>> > > >>> > > Le 15 fÃ©vr. 2014 Ã 07:51, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> a >>> > > Ã©crit : >>> > > >>> > > It means it opens only preferences related to this package. >>> > > >>> > > Jannik >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > 2014-02-15 0:07 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: >>> >>> > > >>> > > > What does it mean to open a Setting Browser on a package? >>> > > > >>> > > > Alexandre >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:30 PM, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> >>> >>> > > > wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > > Hi pharoers, >>> > > > > >>> > > > > I have a small problem with Settings Browser: when I open it on >>> a >>> > > > single package settings, it is really slow. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Just try it. >>> > > > > Opening a Settings browser is fast (213ms on my machine): >>> > > > > == >>> > > > > SettingBrowser new open >>> > > > > == >>> > > > > Now, with a specific package name, it is really slow (5284ms on >>> my >>> > > > machine !!!): >>> > > > > == >>> > > > > SettingBrowser new setViewedPackageNames: 'Settings-Network'; >>> open. >>> > > > > == >>> > > > > or this line: >>> > > > > == >>> > > > > SettingBrowser new changePackageSet: {PackageOrganizer default >>> > > > packageNamed: 'Settings-Network' ifAbsent:[]}; open. >>> > > > > == >>> > > > > >>> > > > > I don't understand what is wrong. Any idea ? >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Cheers, >>> > > > > -- >>> > > > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ >>> > > > > Ãcole des Mines de Douai >>> > > > > Enseignant-chercheur >>> > > > > http://www.jannik-laval.eu >>> > > > > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > -- >>> > > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> > > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> > > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > >>> > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ >>> > > Ãcole des Mines de Douai >>> > > Enseignant-chercheur >>> > > http://www.jannik-laval.eu >>> > > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > www.tudorgirba.com >>> > >>> > "Every thing has its own flow" >>> >>> Hi Tudor, >>> >>> thank you for investigating this. >>> >>> I changed the title for this report >>> System -> Settings >>> >>> nicolai >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" >> > > > > -- > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/

Feb. 17, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is wrong with Settings Browser ?

by jannik laval

Thank you guys, Jannik 2014-02-17 8:34 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > Thanks. > > Doru > > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:23 AM, nicolaihess(a)googlemail.com < > nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > >> On Mon Feb 17 07:18:18 2014 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > No need to guess :). The main problem is that the System Browser is >> using >> > PackageInfo instead of RPackage. >> > >> > Take a look at the analysis I did on this case (yes, I used some fancy >> > tools): >> > >> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/making-the-pharo-settings-browser-ope… >> > >> > Both the problem and the slice are documented here: >> > >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12897/System-Browser-is-slow-when-opened-… >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Doru >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 8:27 PM, <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > I guess (i do not know) that it relies on pragma and therefore it >> scans >> > > the whole system >> > > >> > > Luc >> > > >> > > EnvoyÃ© de mon iPhone >> > > >> > > Le 15 fÃ©vr. 2014 Ã 07:51, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> a >> > > Ã©crit : >> > > >> > > It means it opens only preferences related to this package. >> > > >> > > Jannik >> > > >> > > >> > > 2014-02-15 0:07 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: >> >> > > >> > > > What does it mean to open a Setting Browser on a package? >> > > > >> > > > Alexandre >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:30 PM, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> >> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Hi pharoers, >> > > > > >> > > > > I have a small problem with Settings Browser: when I open it on a >> > > > single package settings, it is really slow. >> > > > > >> > > > > Just try it. >> > > > > Opening a Settings browser is fast (213ms on my machine): >> > > > > == >> > > > > SettingBrowser new open >> > > > > == >> > > > > Now, with a specific package name, it is really slow (5284ms on >> my >> > > > machine !!!): >> > > > > == >> > > > > SettingBrowser new setViewedPackageNames: 'Settings-Network'; >> open. >> > > > > == >> > > > > or this line: >> > > > > == >> > > > > SettingBrowser new changePackageSet: {PackageOrganizer default >> > > > packageNamed: 'Settings-Network' ifAbsent:[]}; open. >> > > > > == >> > > > > >> > > > > I don't understand what is wrong. Any idea ? >> > > > > >> > > > > Cheers, >> > > > > -- >> > > > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ >> > > > > Ãcole des Mines de Douai >> > > > > Enseignant-chercheur >> > > > > http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> > > > > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> > > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> > > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > >> > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ >> > > Ãcole des Mines de Douai >> > > Enseignant-chercheur >> > > http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> > > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > www.tudorgirba.com >> > >> > "Every thing has its own flow" >> >> Hi Tudor, >> >> thank you for investigating this. >> >> I changed the title for this report >> System -> Settings >> >> nicolai >> >> > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/

Feb. 17, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 3 - Nautilus bug ?

by jannik laval

Ok, thank you Nicolai. Jannik 2014-02-16 23:01 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de>: > On Sun Feb 16 22:26:08 2014 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > When browsing class extensions, when I have an extension in instance > side > > and an extension in class side, this class appears 2 times in the > > browser. See attached screenshot. > > [image: Images intÃ©grÃ©es 1] > > -- > > > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > > Enseignant-chercheur > > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ > > <Anhang> Untitled.jpg > > > yes, it is a known bug in nautilus. There is already an issue > reported at fogbugz. > > Nicolai > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/

Feb. 17, 2014